Retirement of the workhorses...
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heard the navy retired some gunboats recently, anyone have the news article? perhaps lionnoisy can post here.... just wonder where are they going next?
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scrapyard?
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hmm... actually if you remove all the sensitive electronics, can probably sell to our neighbours? like Indonesia or Philippines?
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How come only 5 MGBs listed on the news? I thought there are 6 MGBs?? Was the sixth MGB retired earlier? To provide manning for the new FFG?
RSS Sea Wolf
RSS Sea Lion
RSS Sea Tiger
RSS Sea Hawk
RSS Sea Scorpion
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http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6547/mgb.html
The RSS DRAGON was not listed somehow? overlooked by jounarlist?
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Originally posted by spencer99:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6547/mgb.html
The RSS DRAGON was not listed somehow? overlooked by jounarlist?
As usual.Sea Wolf and Sea Dragon were the last MGBs to stop operations, both being quite active till early Apr.
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I rather donate to the Phillippines. They are fighting an insurgency over there. The other 'big brothers' can buy their own.
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read today 15 .05.2008 long essay by David Boey
some intersting info eg EW in the boats etc
pl post the whole essay here.
2.http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20080514-65143.html
S'pore navy retires pioneer batch of missile gunboats 
The Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) has retired six of her pioneer Missile Gunboats (MGBs) after 33 years of service, a milestone marking the fleet's transition to a 3rd generation force.
The RSS Sea Wolf, RSS Sea Lion, RSS Sea Tiger, RSS Sea Hawk and RSS Sea Scorpion were decommissioned yesterday evening in a ceremony at Changi Naval Base, said a news release by the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF).
Commissioned in the early 1970s, the vessels led developments in naval strike warfare and carried out maritime surveillance, patrol and escort operations for over three decades.
The RSS Sea Wolf, in particular, heralded the RSN's entry into the missile age by becoming the first ship in the region to successfully fire an anti-ship missile.
Over 5,600 men and women have served onboard the MGBs, including Minister for Defence Teo Chee Hean, and Senior Minister of State for Education & Information, Communications and the Arts, Rear-Admiral (RADM) (NS) Lui Tuck Yew."The MGBs' achievements are testimony to the fighting spirit, camaraderie and professionalism of the men and women who have served on these ships. This spirit will continue to live in the RSN as it transforms into the 3rd Generation navy," said Chief of Navy RADM Chew Men Leong, who officiated the event.
New FORMIDABLE-class Stealth Frigates will replace the MGBs in the 185 Squadron - state-of-the-art combat ships which are able to perform a wide spectrum of missions, and handle surface, air and underwater threats.
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Same article mentions new SH70 to be armed with Penguin. That's great !
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Full article here:
http://combat-missions.com/forums/index.php?topic=89.msg102#new
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A lot of the bigger navies actually 'mothball' their older ships for emergency use in future or in time of a conflict. You will never know when the MGBs will come in handy.
On the other hand, mothballing may cause us a lot more money than buying new ships. Hey, how much are the 'Visby' stealth corvettes going to cost?
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I was also going to suggest mothballing the MGBs. But technology can surpass mothballed ships rendering them obsolete and the mothballing futile. It seems the only ships I know to be brought out of mothball and called back into service were the Iowa class Battleships of USN. Even then, with the exception of USS New Jersey, whcih was re-activated and mothballed several times, USS Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin each only served <10 years and then were either scrapped or turned into memorials.
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If not worth to mothball, then the ships should be scrapped immediately and the metal parts sold as scraps since scrap metals are selling for a good price, unless some other friendly navies wants to buy some 'grand old ladies'.
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I say sell it to a third party Navy and not give it to them...look at how much stuff we've given to Indon and yet they still kpkb.
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Wednesday CNA reported that one RSAF Super Puma had crashed when taking off, fortunately no one was injured during this accident.
With the Super Puma operating since 1985, is it not time also to retire this 20 year old workhorses in the RSAF ?
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time for some blackhawks.
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Anything better on offer or only blackhawks?
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EC-725, AW 101(with rolls royce engines, Ch-47F
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Wednesday CNA reported that one RSAF Super Puma had crashed when taking off, fortunately no one was injured during this accident.
With the Super Puma operating since 1985, is it not time also to retire this 20 year old workhorses in the RSAF ?
thats older than the B10M Mk2's!!!to think that these things FLY and theyre still using em..
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Keep the MGBs so that when in war,can take out use again
like the 3 Tonners,although they are replaced by 5 Tonners,they are being kept,so that one day when got war,still can ferry troops that y u still see SAF train its drivers on the old Land Rover and the Fiat 3 Tonner..
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Sell the MGB hulls to the Phillippines I say.
Build a new class of Stealth Covettes
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My friends were joking, we should keep the MGBs as RSN tug-boats, these way, we don't have to wait for PSA tugs everytime we sail.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
My friends were joking, we should keep the MGBs as RSN tug-boats, these way, we don't have to wait for PSA tugs everytime we sail.
PSA tugs more powerful...
if want to convert,muz spent $$$$,which SAF is not really wanting to do that...