CasperV

28 Jan 09, 00:03

btw, i believe there is a knife shop? something like in shophouses... what shop is that? Seen it like way back in '99

forgot where. what other knife shops are there? and good brands for tactical knives?

i'm keen.

nilam

28 Jan 09, 21:26

There was 1 in Katong Shopping Centre, Sngarms was in Chinatown. Dont think they're still there. 1 shop in Beach Rd (the army surplus shops) selling traditional keris. For tactical knives, I like Cold Steel.

nehpyh

1 Feb 09, 12:52

Originally posted by CasperV:

i got mine on an aircraft... heh heh

!!!!!!!!

What irony!

nehpyh

1 Feb 09, 13:00

Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

i wonder where to get the rambo knife, and the butterfly knives

No offence but Rambo knife was superb for movie as it's big and scary but in actual fact, if you have 20kg of gears on your back, you wouldn't wish to carry anything that heavy.

Also, having a hollow handle means the blade and the handle has to be joined - i.e. more room to give way. That said, certain brand makes good hollow handle knives. Check out Chris Reeves knives.

Today's context, if you are preparing for survival, better to have something specialised. Even keeping it separate is better. If you lose your knife, you dun lose your survival kit.

Lastly, butterfly knife is ILLEGAL in Singapore the last time I checked. Exercise with caution.

nehpyh

1 Feb 09, 13:08

Originally posted by CasperV:

yep... the last blade on top

btw, mine says Messerli on the grip. What is that?

and is my blade different? it says officier suisse stainless rostfrei

hihi,

I think 'Messerli' is a company in collaboration with Victorinox. Google on it. Thus the branding when you purchase that particular SAK.

'Officier' = Officer

'Suisse' = Swiss

'Stainless' = ...you know it.

'Rostfrei' = 'Rust - free'!

Stainless already still rust free? Redundant stamping but probably be a collector (?) when compared to a plain blade.

Keep your SAK as they have officially open tender to factories outside Switzerland to make SAK!!!! That means, in the near future, you may find Swiss Army Knife (Made In China)!!!!!

Amituofo!

Sunday!

14 Feb 09, 00:00

Hi yall, first time posting on this forum. I have some urgent questions which i home some of yall here can help me out with.

First off I love knives, not really a fan of those small utility or pocket blades, i prefer more weight in my palms and in my swings. So id prefer thoseheafty fixed bladed knives. Anyways i was considering getting a blade off a website in the states.

The blade seems to conform to the "legal regulations" like what some of yall have stated.

- It is 11 1/2" in length

- Is not bladed on both side, only on the bottom with a serated edge on the topside near to the handle.

- Is not automatic in operation being a fixed blade by nature.

Therefore i am wondering if it is "legal" to bring it into singapore or will there be a risk of confiscation. I am just using this blade to add to my collection. Will i need to

A) Obtain a license.

B) Fill out any papers.

C) Do any further steps such as preperation of doccumentation (Invoices, recipts) prior to customs clearence in PSA?

I would really appreciate if anyone here on SGF could help me out as i am really looking forward to getting the blade soon. Thanks in advance. ~sunday!

nehpyh

15 Feb 09, 15:31

Originally posted by Sunday!:

Hi yall, first time posting on this forum. I have some urgent questions which i home some of yall here can help me out with.

First off I love knives, not really a fan of those small utility or pocket blades, i prefer more weight in my palms and in my swings. So id prefer thoseheafty fixed bladed knives. Anyways i was considering getting a blade off a website in the states.

The blade seems to conform to the "legal regulations" like what some of yall have stated.

- It is 11 1/2" in length

- Is not bladed on both side, only on the bottom with a serated edge on the topside near to the handle.

- Is not automatic in operation being a fixed blade by nature.

Therefore i am wondering if it is "legal" to bring it into singapore or will there be a risk of confiscation. I am just using this blade to add to my collection. Will i need to

A) Obtain a license.

B) Fill out any papers.

C) Do any further steps such as preperation of doccumentation (Invoices, recipts) prior to customs clearence in PSA?

I would really appreciate if anyone here on SGF could help me out as i am really looking forward to getting the blade soon. Thanks in advance. ~sunday!

Hey Sunday,

It's best to check with ICA. They are the authority and you can also check the tax you may have to pay.

That said, from what you have said, it should be legal. It's more convenient if you have posted the brand, model, spec etc...for reference.

Good luck.

nehpyh

17 Feb 09, 10:42

Dear all,

Just some info for you knife collectors in Singapore.

http://www.ida.gov.sg/doc/Policies%20and%20Regulation/Policies_and_Regulation_Level2/FurtherLibPostalSvc/PosReg.pdf

20.

What is the definition of "arms" in the Act?

Under the Arms & Explosives Act, "arms" is defined as - any firearms, air-guns, air-pistols, automatic guns, automatic pistols, and guns or any other kind of gun from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged or noxious fumes or noxious substance can be emitted and any component part of any such arms, and bayonets, swords, daggers, spears and spearheads.

http://www.spf.gov.sg/licence/AE/FAQ/AE.html

4.

I would like to import a Samurai Sword. How can I go about importing it? You can import a Samurai sword through a forwarding agent, who should declare it through the Tradenet system. For more details, please log on to http://authority31.tradenet21.com. You may be required to bring the sword to a police station for inspection before an import licence can be issued. If it is hand carried, you should declare it to the Immigration & Checkpoints Authority at the point of entry. The sword may be impounded for inspection and you can claim it from the Police Station which has jurisdiction over the entry point. Please note that if you are allowed to possess the sword, it must be kept in a dwelling house and not to be carried in any public place without any lawful purpose.

http://www.spf.gov.sg/licence/AE/FAQ/AE.html

List of Prohibited Postal Articles

12 The current Regulations provides a list of prohibited postal items, such

as fire arms, explosives, controlled drugs and poisons, where the

sending, conveying and delivering of such items constitute an offence.

Possession or handling of many of these items, without approval from

the respective Government authorities

(e) Explosives and Firearms

Regulation 3 (1) (a) of the current Regulations prohibits the post, covey

or deliver by post articles containing any explosive or flammable

substance (paragraph (i)), and any arms, firearms …etc (paragraph

(vi)). These provisions ensure that dangerous items are not

transported via the postal systems.

However, these two listed categories of items are not sufficiently robust

or complete to ensure that similarly dangerous items within the same

categories are included. Examples of dangerous items not within the

scope of these two sub-sections include stun / replica guns, knuckle

dusters, tear-gas and nanchaku. It is proposed to replace these two

sub-sections with four new sub-sections that link to and encompass

the prohibited items under the scope of the four related Acts. The four

Acts are as follows:

(i) Arms and Explosives Act (Cap. 14);

PART III

LICENSING OF GUNS, ARMS AND EXPLOSIVES

Licences required in respect of guns, arms, explosives, etc.
13. —(1) No person shall, unless authorised thereto by licence, and in accordance with the conditions of the licence and such other conditions as may be prescribed —

(a) have in his possession or under his control any gun, arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance;

(b) import any gun, arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance;

(c) export any gun, arms, explosives, naval or military stores, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance; or

(d) manufacture or deal in guns, arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance.

[30/2002]

(2) Any person who, in contravention of this section —

(a) imports any gun, arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance;

(b) exports any gun, arms, explosives, naval or military stores, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance; or

(c) manufactures or deals in guns, arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance,

shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 and to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years.

[30/2002]

(3) Any person who, in contravention of this section, has in his possession or under his control any gun shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $5,000 for every such gun and to imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 years.

[30/2002]

(4) Any person who, in contravention of this section, has in his possession or under his control any arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $5,000 and to imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 years.

[30/2002]

(5) Upon the conviction of any person of an offence under subsection (4), if it is proved to the satisfaction of the court before which the conviction is had that the offender had possession or control of the arms, explosives, poisonous or noxious gas or noxious substance for the purpose of committing an offence punishable under the Penal Code (Cap. 224), the offender shall, in addition to the imprisonment prescribed by that subsection, be liable to caning.

[30/2002]

(6) Subsection (1) (a) shall not apply to any bayonet, sword, dagger, spear or spearhead in any dwelling-house kept therein as a curio or for ornamental purposes.

[8

[30/2002]

14. Repealed by Act 5/2007, wef 01/07/2007.

15. Repealed by Act 5/2007, wef 01/07/2007.

No purchase of guns or arms from licensed dealer without licence
16. —(1) No person shall take delivery of any guns or arms from a licensed dealer without a licence authorising the purchase thereof, nor beyond the extent permitted thereby.

(2) No licensed dealer shall deliver to any person any guns or arms except upon delivery to him of the licence nor beyond the extent permitted thereby.

(3) Any person who commits any act in contravention of this section shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000.

[30/2002]

(4) This section shall not apply to any bayonet, sword, dagger, spear and spearhead bona fide intended to be kept as a curio or for ornamental purposes.

[12

Delivery by persons other than licensed dealers
17. —(1) Any person, not being a licensed dealer, in possession of any guns, arms or ammunition under a licence, may deliver the guns, arms or ammunition to any other person who has produced to him a licence for the possession thereof.

(2) The person delivering the guns, arms or ammunition referred to in subsection (1) shall immediately return his licence to the Licensing Officer or other proper officer, endorsed with a note containing the date of delivery and the name, address and description of the person to whom he has delivered the guns, arms or ammunition, or such other information as is prescribed.

[30/2002]

(3) Any person who commits any act in contravention of this section shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000.

[13

[30/2002]

Provision upon death or bankruptcy, etc., of licensee
18. —(1) If a person licensed to import any guns, arms or explosives dies or becomes bankrupt or becomes mentally incapable or otherwise disabled, the person carrying on the business of that licensee shall not be liable to any penalty or forfeiture for acting under the licence during such reasonable time as is necessary to allow him to make an application to the Licensing Officer for a new licence.

[30/2002]

(2) The person carrying on the business of the licensee referred to in subsection (1) shall be deemed to be the holder of the licence for all purposes under this Act, and to be liable in the same way as if he were the original holder of the licence until a new licence is issued.

[14

Guns, arms or explosives of which possession has become unlawful to be deposited with authorised person
19. —(1) Any person whose possession of guns, arms or explosives has become unlawful in consequence of the expiry, suspension or cancellation of a licence shall, without unnecessary delay, deposit them with such authorised person and at such place as may be specified in the licence or by notice in writing by the Licensing Officer.

[30/2002]

(2) If the owner of any guns, arms or explosives so deposited does not, within 6 months from the date of deposit, produce a licence authorising him to possess them and apply for the delivery of them, the guns, arms or explosives deposited with an authorised person shall be forfeited to the Government.

[30/2002]

(3) Every person licensed to possess guns or arms under this Act and intending to leave Singapore for any period exceeding one month shall, unless he intends to export such guns or arms, before so leaving transfer them to some person authorised under section 17 to take delivery of them or deposit them for safe keeping at a police station.

(4) The Licensing Officer may authorise in writing any police officer to search any house for any guns or arms which he has reason to believe have not been transferred or deposited as required by subsection (3).

[15

[21/73;30/2002]

Forfeiture of arms or explosives deposited with authorised person or Licensing Officer
20. Any arms or explosives deposited with an authorised person or the Licensing Officer in accordance with the provisions of this Act or any other written law for the time being in force shall, if not claimed by its owner or owners within 6 months from the date of the deposit, be forfeited to the Government.

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[2/73;30/2002]

Minister may authorise erection of magazines or establishment of hulks
21. The Minister may, by writing under his hand, authorise —

(a) the erection of such magazines or the establishment of such hulks as he considers necessary for the storage of Government explosives, or for the storage or safe custody of explosives belonging to other persons; and

(b) the use of Government magazines or any portion thereof for the storage or safe custody of explosives belonging to other persons.

[18

Short title
1. This Act may be cited as the Arms Offences Act.

Interpretation
2. In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires —

"arm" means any firearm, air-gun, air-pistol, automatic gun, automatic pistol and any other kind of gun or pistol from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged or noxious liquid, flame or fumes can be emitted, and any component part thereof and includes any bomb or grenade and any component part thereof;

"imitation arm" means anything which has the appearance of being an arm;

"import" means to bring or cause to be brought into Singapore by any means from any place;

"scheduled offence" means any offence specified in the Schedule;

"trafficking in arms" means —

(a) to import, manufacture or deal in arms in contravention of the provisions of the Arms and Explosives Act (Cap. 13); or

(b) to lend, give, sell, hire or offer for sale or hire any arm to a person who has no licence to possess such arm issued under the Arms and Explosives Act;

"unlawful possession" means possession or control contrary to the provisions of the Arms and Explosives Act;

"use" , with its grammatical variations, means —

(a) in relation to a firearm, an air-gun, an air-pistol, an automatic gun, an automatic pistol and any other kind of gun or pistol from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged or noxious liquid, flame or fumes can be emitted — to cause such shot, bullet or other missile to be discharged or such noxious liquid, flame or fumes to be emitted with intent to cause physical injury to any person; and

(b) in relation to a bomb or grenade — to throw the bomb or grenade, or to cause it to explode, with intent to cause physical injury to any person or property.

Penalty for being in unlawful possession of arms or ammunition
3. —(1) Subject to subsection (4), any person who is in unlawful possession of any arm or ammunition shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with imprisonment for a term of not less than 5 years and not more than 10 years and shall also be punished with caning with not less than 6 strokes.

[25/84]

(2) Subject to subsection (4), any person who unlawfully carries any arm shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with imprisonment for a term of not less than 5 years and not more than 14 years and shall also be punished with caning with not less than 6 strokes.

[25/84]

(3) Where any person at the time of his committing or at the time of his apprehension for any scheduled offence has on his person any arm, he shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with imprisonment for life and shall also be punished with caning with not less than 6 strokes.

(4) Where any person convicted of an offence punishable under subsection (1) or (2) is proved to have been previously convicted of a scheduled offence, he shall on conviction be punished with imprisonment for a term of not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years and shall also be punished with caning with not less than 6 strokes.

[25/84]

Using or attempting to use arms
4. —(1) Subject to any exception referred to in Chapter IV of the Penal Code (Cap. 224) which may be applicable (other than section 95), any person who uses or attempts to use any arm shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with death.

[30/93]

(2) In any proceedings for an offence under this section, any person who uses or attempts to use any arm shall, until the contrary is proved, be presumed to have used or attempted to use the arm with the intention to cause physical injury to any person or property.

[30/93]

Using or attempting to use arms to commit scheduled offence
4A. Subject to any exception referred to in Chapter IV of the Penal Code which may be applicable (other than section 95), any person who uses or attempts to use any arm at the time of his committing or attempting to commit any scheduled offence shall, whether or not he has any intention to cause physical injury to any person or property, be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with death.

[30/93]

Punishment for accomplices
5. Where any arm is used by any person in committing or in attempting to commit any offence or where an offence under section 4A has been committed by any person, each of his accomplices present at the scene of the offence who may reasonably be presumed to have known that that person was carrying or had in his possession or under his control the arm, shall, unless he proves that he had taken all reasonable steps to prevent the use of the arm, be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with death.

[30/93]

Trafficking in arms
6. —(1) Any person trafficking in arms shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be punished with —

(a) death; or

(b) imprisonment for life and with caning with not less than 6 strokes.

(2) Any person proved to be in unlawful possession of more than 2 arms shall, until the contrary is proved, be presumed to be trafficking in arms.

Consorting with person carrying arms
7. Any person who consorts with, or is found in the company of, another person who is unlawfully carrying or is in unlawful possession of any arm in circumstances which raise a reasonable presumption that he knew that that other person was carrying or had in his possession or under his control any such arm shall, unless he proves that he had reasonable grounds for believing that that other person was not unlawfully carrying or was not in unlawful possession of such arm, be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to the like punishment as that other person with whom he was consorting or in whose company he was found.

Penalty for exhibiting imitation arm when committing scheduled offence
8. Any person who at the time of committing or attempting to commit or abetting the commission of any scheduled offence exhibits any imitation arm in a manner likely to put any person in fear of death or hurt shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term which may extend to 10 years and shall also be punished with caning with not less than 3 strokes.

Presumption
9. Where any arm is found in or on any premises, the occupier of the premises shall be deemed to be in possession of the arm unless he proves that some other person was in possession thereof, or that he had no knowledge or reasonable means of knowing that the arm was in or on the premises and that he had taken all reasonable precautions against the arm being kept in or on the premises.

Exemptions
10. Nothing in section 3 shall apply to —

(a) a member of any visiting force lawfully present in Singapore or of the police force or of a volunteer force or local force constituted under any written law for the time being in force in Singapore, when the member is carrying any arm in, or in connection with, the performance of his duty;

(b) any person who carries an arm as part of his official or ceremonial dress on any official or ceremonial occasion;

(c) any person licensed or authorised to carry or possess an arm under or by virtue of any written law relating to arms for the time being in force in Singapore; or

(d) a member of any organisation or association specially authorised by the Minister by notification in the Gazette, when the member is carrying any arm in, or in connection with, the performance of his duty.

[6/78]

Saving of other written law
11. The provisions of this Act shall have effect without prejudice to the provisions of the Arms and Explosives Act (Cap. 13) or of any other written law for the time being in force in Singapore relating to unlawful possession of arms or ammunition.

Power to amend Schedule
12. The Minister may at any time by order add to, amend or vary the Schedule.

nehpyh

17 Feb 09, 10:47

http://www.spf.gov.sg/licence/AE/others/List_AE.pdf

nilam

2 Mar 09, 00:20

HI Guys

Finally got my hands on my new knives. From the right: Cold Steel Recon Scout (my favourite, awesome knife), GI Tanto, Smith & Wesson Black Tactical Knife and the Kudu Ring Folding Knife.

nilam

2 Mar 09, 00:29

HI

How do you upload photos on this forum?

Cheers

nehpyh

6 Mar 09, 11:20

Originally posted by nilam:

HI

How do you upload photos on this forum?

Cheers

Yoz, you need to upload your pix with those image hosts like Flikr or Photobucket blah blah blah and then use the 'Insert/Edit Image' button to link the url.

nehpyh

9 Mar 09, 00:52

Hi all,

Just added a new toy to my collection. It's a SOG Visionary 1.

Specs from SOG:

Visionary I

VS-01

The SOG Visionary I features the same spectacular blade shape as the Spec Elite, with the handle of a Mini X-Ray Vision. The end result...a great blade in a small package!

People with big and small hands will find the Visionary I a pleasure to hold and carry. It has a finely textured Zytel handle that is both lightweight and ergonomic. Its ideal three-inch blade with slightly curved straight edge opens quickly and smoothly via SOG's Arc-Lock™. The Arc-Lock offers superior strength, speed, and ambidexterity.

I initially wanted to get it online and save around $50 but in the end, subcumbed to lust and work stress so needed something to defused it.

It came in uber sharpness and can slice paper in micro thin slices!!! Nice.

So far, loving it!

nehpyh

9 Mar 09, 00:53

Man!x

9 Mar 09, 15:54

great knife! one blade only?

Anyone knows where to get Spyderco knives in Singapore?

nehpyh

10 Mar 09, 15:28

Originally posted by Man!x:

great knife! one blade only?

Anyone knows where to get Spyderco knives in Singapore?

Man!x,

You can try Camper's Corner at Stanford House.

But why Spyderco?

Cheers.

Man!x

11 Mar 09, 21:10

Thanks for the tip. Just trying it out and see whether its good, ICT coming up and i can't find my usual knife. if not i might just buy an SAF issued SOG.

nehpyh

11 Mar 09, 21:45

Originally posted by Man!x:

Thanks for the tip. Just trying it out and see whether its good, ICT coming up and i can't find my usual knife. if not i might just buy an SAF issued SOG.

SAF issued SOG is not paratool if you are wondering....also the blade is too narrow for anything serious....Signaler will find it more useful...

As EDC, you may like to try this little '$1.99' shop at Temple St. No, the blade there are not $1.99 but it's super cheap cos they are old stocks from Sng Arms....

You can find many old scool Gerber and some Buck knives for less than $30!!

Man!x

11 Mar 09, 21:52

I guess so, but at least it wont shock anyone when i am trying to clear a double feeding. in me SAR21. But then again i am inclined towards anything over the top.

Again, thanks for the great tip mate!

nehpyh

11 Mar 09, 23:59

Double feeding won't need another tools except your pinkie le....it's more assuring to use your fingers to orh then to use a another medium....just like using a spatula to dig the nose....no feel! hahaha...

Alphapunk2

25 Mar 09, 19:45

i bought my butterfly knife from italy :D!!!!

Patapon

22 May 09, 21:24

sorry to dig up this thread.

just wanna know how you guys maintain the knives? what type of oil you use to lubricate the joint?

Kyutake

22 May 09, 22:14

im looking for butterfly knives. Anyone know where to get can pm me please? =)

I do know of a place that sells illegal knives and parangs. Last time my friend got one at jalan besar there. This funny knive that acts as a knuckle duster and knive $40SGD only =\ why some pppl got such good lobang one lols.

Challenger future

5 Jun 09, 05:58

Hello, very embarrassed that's my first post is a question ...

Where can I buy COLD STEEL Recon I and SOG Visionary II??
I want to buy either one of them during this weekend

If you know the price, that will be even better :D

I need to know ASAP, lol, cant wait anymore, my blood is running hot from seeing them on websites

Thanks all and good day!!

Jerome

wonderamazement

5 Jun 09, 23:46

Originally posted by Patapon:

sorry to dig up this thread.

just wanna know how you guys maintain the knives? what type of oil you use to lubricate the joint?

WD40

Military knives

PART III

LICENSING OF GUNS, ARMS AND EXPLOSIVES

Visionary I

VS-01