how best to capture a building?
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lets say that you have eg a HDB block, around 20 stories, with many units, how best to capture such an structure?
i think that sg hdb estates seem to be very good areas for urban battles, any opinions?
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from the top of course ... clear from top down ...
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Originally posted by arball:
lets say that you have eg a HDB block, around 20 stories, with many units, how best to capture such an structure?
i think that sg hdb estates seem to be very good areas for urban battles, any opinions?
Until they just bomb the foundation and the building go trumbling down... -
First, you must cordon the block with Leopard MBTs from 48 SAR and the whole of 7SIB. Meanwhile, Primus from 21 SA zero in on the building while Chinooks deploy Pegasus howitzers for added punch. Must use Chinook, coz heli-deployment very stylo. LRRP from 1st Commando will insert 3 days prior to the operation to recce the place and mark targets with lasers. Apaches launch hellfires onto every level while F-16s and F-15s drop JDAMS. SOF will conduct free-fall from Super Pumas and land on the roof and blaze down ten stories while Guardsmen rappel head-first down from more helis and crash through glass windows. Night-vision gear and infrared opticals are mandatory regardless of time of day. Meanwhile, CDF, COA and Defence Minister have a grandstand view of the whole excercise.
The Singapore Armed Forces. Breaking new ground.
Online tactical demonstration by SAF : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMSPTVApgZs&feature=related
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Wait... wait... wait... what about this?
You launch a C-130 mounted with FANTAIL UAVs strapped to its wings from an LHD using JATO rockets, then when you are over the target area you'll release the FANTAILS to crash into the windows of buildings... at the same time, drop your inline skate force soldiers 50 meters away from the target building so they can grab their scope-handle equipped SAR-21s and skate for their lives across open ground under heavy enemy fire to storm the building.
Meanwhile, all this is being coordinated from a 250 ton blast-rated Underground Ammo Facility that is being used as a command facility that is expected to wistand a 30 MEGATON nuclear attack. The commander in this facility will be well trained in looking through the internet and google for stuff on ST weapons, spend some time find ways to say why it is better then other country's systems, as well as copy and pasting many articles on the military written by non-military personnel which they will send to their soldiers to tell them how to fight.
In the event the battle is not going well, this commander will then thrawl the net for every negative article on their enemy's military and then send it over the command net to convince friendly troops that despite apperances, the enemy is full of "systemic" failures and really can't fight. If the battle is really bad, then this commander will suddenly abandon the battle and pick another one to face similar results, or dissappear (if the trashing is really bad) for a while to think up of "new" and "innovative" ways to fight wars that usually involve crashing expensive stuff to kill non expensive stuff, shooting aircraft off ships too small to support them, and finding ways to use things like inline skates, party hats, and water pistols and associated stuff to fight a real shooting war.
Hmm...
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erm, surround the ground floor, then send troops up to capture unit by unit floor by floor?
Or sendin crysis forces with cloaking suits?
Or send in Solid Snake. He should be able to clear the whole building with a traquilizar gun. He too have a cloaking suit.
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Negative unless C-130 executes a VTOL off the PIE at rush-hour in a demonstration of our emergency runway capabilities.
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wtf, hellfires on every level.
think 1 hellfire can take out 10 floors. a second one at a strategic point will bring down the building.
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With what purpose and objective in mind? In a peacetime scenario, cops will prob sent in the STAR. Cops dun shoot to kill unless necessary like in life threatening scenario, so there will probably be subjects arrested and brought away. If the aim is to be simply take down the building, with or without prisoners not an issue, the other parties being dead or alive, not an issue, bombard it...
haha... just my humble opinions. Not from army during ns. trained with SOC troops though. Thats all. first time posting in military nuts.
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Why think until so bloody difficult. Evacuate all the civilians. Shut off electric,water and gas supplies.
Broadcast demand for surrender.
Let Ns man practice tossing smoke grenades into low level windows. Let troops practise shooting WP grenades into open windows.
Rig the whole block structure with demolition charges
Lay triple conc(lobo) with AP booby traps and AP mines(engineer)
Broadcast countdown from 10 mins.
Assure residents that compensation will come in some form in the future.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Wait... wait... wait... what about this?
You launch a C-130 mounted with FANTAIL UAVs strapped to its wings from an LHD using JATO rockets, then when you are over the target area you'll release the FANTAILS to crash into the windows of buildings... at the same time, drop your inline skate force soldiers 50 meters away from the target building so they can grab their scope-handle equipped SAR-21s and skate for their lives across open ground under heavy enemy fire to storm the building.
Meanwhile, all this is being coordinated from a 250 ton blast-rated Underground Ammo Facility that is being used as a command facility that is expected to wistand a 30 MEGATON nuclear attack. The commander in this facility will be well trained in looking through the internet and google for stuff on ST weapons, spend some time find ways to say why it is better then other country's systems, as well as copy and pasting many articles on the military written by non-military personnel which they will send to their soldiers to tell them how to fight.
In the event the battle is not going well, this commander will then thrawl the net for every negative article on their enemy's military and then send it over the command net to convince friendly troops that despite apperances, the enemy is full of "systemic" failures and really can't fight. If the battle is really bad, then this commander will suddenly abandon the battle and pick another one to face similar results, or dissappear (if the trashing is really bad) for a while to think up of "new" and "innovative" ways to fight wars that usually involve crashing expensive stuff to kill non expensive stuff, shooting aircraft off ships too small to support them, and finding ways to use things like inline skates, party hats, and water pistols and associated stuff to fight a real shooting war.
Hmm...
Sh!T! I didn't know HE was the CDF!
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What.. So complicated fer what? Just shout,
DOWNSTAIRS FREE PAK GUA!!!
Just tie up the 3 or 4 people still upstairs. -
Just send in a Battalion of PES E in their number 3 uniform and tell them to go door to door armed with a letter that says,
By order of Ministry of Defence, you are to vacate the premises by D-day H-hour in the interest of national security. Failing which you maybe be subjected to Cap 123 of the XYZ Act which brings the maximum penalty of no less than $1000 fine and/or jail term of 5 years or both.
It should work.
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Easy - gather all the Ah long in Singapore - setup a Ah long company in the army !!!
Send them to do what they do best !!! Tell the people inside - pay up$$ or else get out !!!
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Bunkerbuster it.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Wait... wait... wait... what about this?
You launch a C-130 mounted with FANTAIL UAVs strapped to its wings from an LHD using JATO rockets, then when you are over the target area you'll release the FANTAILS to crash into the windows of buildings... at the same time, drop your inline skate force soldiers 50 meters away from the target building so they can grab their scope-handle equipped SAR-21s and skate for their lives across open ground under heavy enemy fire to storm the building.
Meanwhile, all this is being coordinated from a 250 ton blast-rated Underground Ammo Facility that is being used as a command facility that is expected to wistand a 30 MEGATON nuclear attack. The commander in this facility will be well trained in looking through the internet and google for stuff on ST weapons, spend some time find ways to say why it is better then other country's systems, as well as copy and pasting many articles on the military written by non-military personnel which they will send to their soldiers to tell them how to fight.
In the event the battle is not going well, this commander will then thrawl the net for every negative article on their enemy's military and then send it over the command net to convince friendly troops that despite apperances, the enemy is full of "systemic" failures and really can't fight. If the battle is really bad, then this commander will suddenly abandon the battle and pick another one to face similar results, or dissappear (if the trashing is really bad) for a while to think up of "new" and "innovative" ways to fight wars that usually involve crashing expensive stuff to kill non expensive stuff, shooting aircraft off ships too small to support them, and finding ways to use things like inline skates, party hats, and water pistols and associated stuff to fight a real shooting war.
Hmm...
lols. nice one.. the lionnoisy approach...
lets say the building is held by hostiles, (ie the enemy) would it be better to send in large forces? or small "sticks" of troops?
how many soldiers would it take to effectively defend a building?
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so much trouble, all you need to do is gas the whole building.