Inline skate force
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Originally posted by arball:
imagine throwing the wheels at the enemy...
No way will I do that. The thought of signing 1206s for some overpriced 'mil-spec' piece of plastic is enough to make one's eyes water.
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i am not asking our men sking for no. of km.,fr Changi to Jurong.
The new kit is for journey up to few km!!
During a war,which may stretch up to no. of weeks,u need preserve your energy.
If the route is secured,why spend your energy and time to walk ,and even run,iso
sking?
2.This will save fuel and other logistic resources,and reducing traffic jams.
If the distance is feasible and route secured,just ski.
No need wait for transport!
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
i am not asking our men sking for no. of km.,fr Changi to Jurong.
The new kit is for journey up to few km!!
During a war,which may stretch up to no. of weeks,u need preserve your energy.
If the route is secured,why spend your energy and time to walk ,and even run,iso
sking?
2.This will save fuel and other logistic resources,and reducing traffic jams.
If the distance is feasible and route secured,just ski.
No need wait for transport!
Okay then handsome.... figure out this scenario:
You and your men are skating down the road . Then suddenly your platoon gets ambushed by some enemies hidden in the trees by the roadside.
So..... how the flying *bleep* does your section charge at the enemy hidden among the trees? Ask the enemy to wait while you change from in-line skates to boots? You know what kind of traction rollerblades get in jungle terrain?
Oh wait.... maybe you're just expecting the enemy to laugh themselves to death at seeing a whole bunch of in-line skating SAF troops.
The only conclusion I can make: you've never served in the army, you've never carried a rifle, and no, you've never worn Rollerblades either.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
The only conclusion I can make: you've never served in the army, you've never carried a rifle, and no, you've never worn Rollerblades either.
alamak
i also want to say this
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
i am not asking our men sking for no. of km.,fr Changi to Jurong.
The new kit is for journey up to few km!!
During a war,which may stretch up to no. of weeks,u need preserve your energy.
If the route is secured,why spend your energy and time to walk ,and even run,iso
sking?
2.This will save fuel and other logistic resources,and reducing traffic jams.
If the distance is feasible and route secured,just ski.
No need wait for transport!
Military bikes are way faster, way more effective and soldier's energy saving, in addition to the fact that it will most likely use less horizontal space while travelling. That little amount of fuel used for that few km is very very low. In addition, for what I would always do, I will bring extra 3 litres of water on the bike. In a war that stretches and you might not have access to more water, this 3 litres to drink, immediately after dismounting the bike, is really a very very great deal.
If the distance is only a mere few km, and route secured, just ride a military bike over. Why spend your energy and time to skate when there's already a much more simple method? It is not like Singapore doesn't already have a large number of military bikes ready for use any time, nor that Singapore doesn't already have off-road training for such motorbikes.
Finally, the physics of your idea is indeed laugable. Think of how much extra energy your calves muscles would have to use with an extra 20kg on your upper torso.
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*skates into trip wires connected to claymore mines*
n my god it looks tiring..
Unless u are talking about micro second blade rectraction capabilities installed on the boots for isntant terrain change when encountered.
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i dun think that secured.. will mean well paved tar roads =P
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Seriously, where can in-line skating troops be used?
On the roads? But what if the roadsides are jungle terrain and the enemy abushes you from there?
Urban terrain? Good luck trying to charge up a building full of enemy snipers with your in-line skates on.
East Coast Park? What if you kena ambushed from the beach? Charge into the sand with your in-line skates on?
Besides.... as the others have pointed out.... how the hell do you skate with 20kg of FBO? And let's not even talk about FBO.... skating with around 10kg of SBO equipment (SBO = 4kg, SAR 21 = 4kg, helmet = 1kg, ammo and grenades = 2kg) is hellish enough for anyone.
Hey, I'd like to see how an 84mm gunner is gonna go skating.
Then again, like I said, perhaps the lion has a point.... with this kind of ideas, the enemy troops may just laugh themselves to death.
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inline skating troops can reveal sniper position mah....
all they have to do is triangulate the sound of the sniper laughter
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my guess of lionnoisy's next move would be:
he will post today's ST article of the olympic torch being escorted by guards on rollerblades
and,
he will use the skate-shoe integretion thingy tt was the craze some time back.... (ie your boot have a hole or a area for wheels to clip onto)
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might as well post that Amsterdam's police force ride on horses, so we should use horses in modern wars too
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Still on it?
The new kit is for journey up to few km!!
How on earth can you skate properly with the typical weight a grunt has to carry (excess of 30 kilos), and what happens on the uphill stretches? And what's your idea of a few km? 5 km which our infantry can fast march in 30 min?
During a war,which may stretch up to no. of weeks,u need preserve your energy.
If you want to preserve your energy, then you shouldn't be skating around with 30 kilos sliding around like a moron because you are too heavy to skate in the first place.
If the route is secured,why spend your energy and time to walk ,and even run,iso
If I recall skating is hardly an efficent form of transport, not to mention you are skating with no load, which is totally unlike the infantry mission profile which requires you to carry quite a lot of stuff.
sking?
At least militaries have the proper sense to ski over cross country because it is a viable form of transport because the terrain there permits. There is no such terrain in our region
2.This will save fuel and other logistic resources,and reducing traffic jams.
What fuel and what logistic resources? How can a platoon transport its required gear on skates? No use getting there when you can't fight or are not ready to fight... assuming you can even skate there in the first place!
If the distance is feasible and route secured,just ski.
No need wait for transport!
What are you walking about now? Ski in Singapore? And where is this feasible in south east asia? Do you see plains of snow?
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Also, how are you going to ski with a proposed future load of a 4kg SAR, 8kg Body Armour, 1.2 kg Helmet, and another 20 or so kilos of your 2.5 contact rate ammo plus other stuff like LAW (9 KG), M203 + ammo (+3 kg) and 2 day fieldpack (15-20 kg)?
Do you know what is going to happen to a grunt if he falls with this load while skating?
What happens when he needs to go uphill?
Can he safety brake with this weight if he's going downhill?
What happens to the 84 or GPMG section who have to carry even more stuff?
I think this clears it up... you apparently have NOT served any NS before
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I think next he's gonna suggest the whole body of the grunt to be covered with inline skates so he can skate more easily...
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Finally, the physics of your idea is indeed laugable. Think of how much extra energy your calves muscles would have to use with an extra 20kg on your upper torso.
Well considering he thinks the most efficent way to "run for your life" with a 4-kilo SAR-21 is to hold it with one hand by the scope handle like a handbag and that a F-18E can simply ski-ramp off a LHD we can safely conclude that his physics isn't too good.
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i am not a regular here.. but skate with FBO & rifle still managable. MG/ sw gunner upon contact 1st to up the lorry IMO if this really happen.
If travelling long distance, survival rate to jump from tonner upon contact is higher than skates as u r using too much strength to skate compare to sitting in tonner.
survival rate will be much higher on foot than skates on urban area upon contact as u can run the hell up/down the stairs/slopes into jungle & hide. While on skates chances are 0.
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Well you know lionnoisy... he not a person who easily gives up on a bad idea...
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more police force in roller blade...but no military though and all carry light equipment
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Well this is all I can say about this Lion brain ideal !!!
On second thought - forget about the shouting - just shoot !!!
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lololololololol
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what next? Skateboard force?
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Originally posted by eagle:
what next? Skateboard force?
water-skiers as counter-piracy force
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Let me predict what's the next big idea he will come up with:
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
What do u think if we use zoo animals to help infantry like train lions and cheetas to attack enemy, ride armored elephant instead of APC? The elephant can also be made for a tank role by mounting 84mm recoiless on it. Elephant can acess terrain where normal tank cant and dunt need fuel.
It will help for speed , save energy , save ammo quite and may save their live.
Singapore zoo has no lack of well trained animals! This is becos of good leadership!
In war our sea lions can be mount explosives and train to carsh into vital sea targets!
Pl add your valuable spec.
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Originally posted by pigsticker:
water-skiers as counter-piracy force
Use of surfboards for beach landings and coastal hook operations. -
Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Let me predict what's the next big idea he will come up with:
Russia did that before with dogs strapped with bombs against tanks in WWII I think... Although it failed terribly...