Possible war scenarios Singapore will engage in
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I think this has been done before in this forum but can we think of all the possible War scenarios Singapore will probably be Involve in -
Lets start with Malaysia and Indonesia -
We are geared to fight at two war front simultaneously.
One a forward movement up north ( the so called mersing line ) and a holding position down south ( The whole of Riau ). It will be a short and fast campaign, basically to get our neighbours into a negotiation table to agreed to our terms. If it fails, we will be having coffee with the Thais at Hatyai while holding the Indons at bay in a stalemate.
Whatever the outcome will be, once we start the military action, both south part of W. Malaysia and the Riau Island group will become Singapura land. The negative factor are due to constraints we are not able to engage in a protracted war If it really happens. We are talking about at least 350,000 men in arms.
If It is only with Malaysia -
There is no way Malaysia can stop a Singapore onslaught based on current MAF capabilities. The Military campaign in W. Malaysia will be swift and fast. Only problem, are the aftermath of war and the prolong guerilla warfare by the remnants of MAF who will have the Malaysian population support behind them. BTW We will allow the outflux of Malaysian Malay refugees to go to East Malaysia.
and to have a win win situation -
We will strike a deal with the Indons and Brunei
, Sarawak goes to Indons, Sabah goes to Brunei and we will take the whole of West Malaysia. Maybe to placade the Thais we will give them Kedah and Langkawi.
If It is only with Indonesia -
Indonesia will be tough, We will take control of the Riau Archipelago and It have to be a short and fast military campaign, but holding the Indons at bay in a stalemate will be for a long time. The Riau Island group will become Singapura Protected land. The negative factor are, It will be a protracted campaign and we will always have to be wary of Indonesian intent once we occupy their land for whatever the reason. For long term purpose, We also need to work out a plan to install an independent government for an autonomy independent Riau Archipelogo with strong economic and a military (trained by Singapore of cource ) to hold the Indons at bay.
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If It is in support of FPDA - Spratleys Island
Our Airforce, Navy, commandos and guards brigade will be mobilise to engage the enemy of FPDA. Possible sceanario, The Spratleys Island in support of Malaysia. We are the only S. E. Asian country currently with the logistic capabilites to land troops, armor and assist the Malaysians in engaging the PLA in a very short time.
Our AirForce with the KC-135, conformal and external fuel tanks are able to fly sorties over the spratleys immediately on commencement of hostility together with the RMAF from Labuan. FPDA will have Air Superiority in a very short time. I am not underestimating the PLAAF but they are too faraway to engage in effective aerial warfare. The only way to block the Chinese aggression is to react fast before Spratleys are full of PLN Ships and PLA troops while waiting for International intervention.
If It is in support of UN -
Similarly to what's been happening all this while as in Iraq, Afganistan and East Timor, I presume SG has raise a volunteer battalion made up of mostly regulars and the SF with Airforce and Navy support for UN missions.
IF it is a world wide war say against Iran or North Korea
We will mainly utilise our Airforce and Navy for Naval blockage and Air Warfare. Maybe contribute a brigade ( Guards, commandoes and volunteers probably ).
IF it is a world wide war say against China
I suggest we stay out of It, as the Chinese will definitely will nuke us If we are involved. the PLA will take out all possible adversaries ( Japan, Korea, Vietnam etc..etc.. ) out of the equation to concentrate on the Amercians.
Comments - Any other possible scenarios and no kiddy stuff please. -
nothing else better to talk?
ever served before? -
Served 6 years, finished one full 13years cycle and just started on my current 2nd reservist cycle
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The Malaysia scenario you have painted, is overtly positive.
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lamest topic ever...i mean..of all the "war scenario" topics..Originally posted by damienthedevil:Served 6 years, finished one full 13years cycle and just started on my current 2nd reservist cycle -
IMHO, The topic isn't lame, but in a forum, there's only a limited range of replies you'll get.. and these topics have been discussed to death and often invite flame-wars..Originally posted by Rockhound:lamest topic ever...i mean..of all the "war scenario" topics.. -
yesOriginally posted by LazerLordz:IMHO, The topic isn't lame, but in a forum, there's only a limited range of replies you'll get.. and these topics have been discussed to death and often invite flame-wars..
thats y its lame....
few more days...the indonners will be here..
so are the pro malaysians..
then in the end boil down to pee drinking... -
SAF and the SG population will definitely sustain losses in terms of human lifes, damages and economics disruption but it is for sure conclusion what the outcome will be eventually, military victory for the SAF at the end, definitely positive based on current situation.
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The SAF is not geared for an all out conventional war with force projection and consequent occupation and pacification missions.Originally posted by damienthedevil:SAF and the SG population will definitely sustain losses in terms of human lifes, damages and economics disruption but it is for sure conclusion what the outcome will be eventually, military victory for the SAF at the end, definitely positive based on current situation.
Like I've said, you're still being overtly optimistic. It's good to be psyched up, but one should always project for the worst. -
Not intending for a flame war. Just speaking my mind and I am a positive character. But If it cause irritation to others, I will refrain from posting or contributing and remain an observer as I have been for the last few years
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Nah, just sharing my views.Originally posted by damienthedevil:Not intending for a flame war. Just speaking my mind and I am a positive character. But If it cause irritation to others, I will refrain from posting or contributing and remain an observer as I have been for the last few years
As long as we all can have a dignified discussion and can agree to disagree, that's fine. -
The SAF is not geared for an all out conventional war with force projection and consequent occupation and pacification missions.
Like I've said, you're still being overtly optimistic. It's good to be psyched up, but one should always project for the worst.
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Yes you are right, The SAF is not geared for an all out conventional war, we move and hold while waiting for International assistance or mediation.
But U might be surprise, we have doctrine for a possible long term occupation and heart and mind missions for the bottom part of our north neighbour. We have conducted numerous simulations in keeping some land to ourselve for long term purpose, spoilt of war Just like as in Yom Kippur for buffer, but with a huge friendly north neighbour Chinese population in tow and a mass exodus of the indigenious people to farther north. -
I agree with the TS , and its not lame , when i told my NS mates 15 years ago we are an aggressive force , stratey is not defend but attack and we will attack once our water are cut off , they laugh at me, a low ranking cpl anyhow talk co ck ....now things are much clearer now with the NE session we have at the unit...everyone now understand our strategy , I think the main problem is we need to have have preemptive strike but what if out intelligence failed and MSia struck us at our airbase first we may be a goner liao
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still think that someone will spoil this thread in the end...
INFANTRY havent book out yet?
how abt crusader91? -
Why are You afraid?Originally posted by Rockhound:yes
thats y its lame....
few more days...the indonners will be here..
so are the pro malaysians..
then in the end boil down to pee drinking...
This is SG forum. -
Originally posted by crusader91:
full of trolls...
Why are You afraid?
This is [b]SG forum.[/b] -
Originally posted by Rockhound:nothing else better to talk?
ever served before?
this has got to be one of the candidates for PWNAGE OF THE YEAR awards....Originally posted by damienthedevil:Served 6 years, finished one full 13years cycle and just started on my current 2nd reservist cycle 
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Funny thing is that Damienthedevil has served.Originally posted by Hellraiza:this has got to be one of the candidates for PWNAGE OF THE YEAR awards.... -
paiseh..my bad...but this topic popular to those who havent served and play too much C&COriginally posted by Hellraiza:this has got to be one of the candidates for PWNAGE OF THE YEAR awards....
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Infantry back liao -
I seriously doubt any pre-enlistee would know which countries, much less what constitutes the FPDA...Originally posted by Rockhound:paiseh..my bad...but this topic popular to those who havent served and play too much C&C
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Infantry back liao -
ha ha...has servedOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Funny thing is that Damienthedevil has served. -
Don't think so highly of yourself.Originally posted by Hellraiza:I seriously doubt any pre-enlistee would know which countries, much less what constitutes the FPDA...
It is inside SEC 3 social studies book. -
Malaysia is not our enemy......all of us have malaysian relatives......we can always settle with them over kopi-O
Indonesia is our potential enemy........we had been destroyed once in the 13th Century by the Indonesian Majapahit kingdom......history can repeat itself.....that's why Indonesia must be destroyed if we are to survive.
We can win 100 battles, but we cannot afford to lose even 1 war........We need strategic depth......we need a large territory for backup in order to survive .... -
WTF bs is this
the mighty SAF will take out all enemies aggressively and decisively and no, i repeat NO mother fcuker can lay their flag in our land!
this land has been build on sweat and blood of men and women who had fought for day and night for years and nothing can touch us, we are invincible.
remember, we have silver wings on our chest, we are SAF's best! -
Meh Singapore will get majorly if the war is fought on Singaporean soil