SAF training with Rapist Army (TNI)
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SINGAPORE: The Singapore Army and the Indonesian National Army are conducting an annual bilateral exercise, code-named Safkar Indopura, in Singapore.
The exercise began on November 19 and will end on December 2.
About 350 commanders and soldiers from Singapore and Indonesia are taking part in the exercise.
The Ministry of Defence said the successful bilateral exercise is another testament to the excellent ties between the Singapore Army and the Indonesian National Army.
Since 1989, the exercise has been conducted alternately in Singapore and Indonesia. - CNA/ac
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What is the Indonesian army (TNI) like?
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Indon troops abuse West Papuan man.
Victim of Indonesian Army......words were carved on her body after rape.......(likely East Timor, but many rapes occurred in Jakata anti Chinese riots 199
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Why should we help our potential enemies? Doesn't MINDEF knows that the TNI hate us?
Are our politicians so stupid? Pay them top class salaries to make this kind of decision........training with Rapists of Chinese girls........rape was used as a weapon by the Indon army in Jarkarta in 1998.......phui!
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Our Politicians instead should be raped by the Indon Army ! phui.....phui.....double phui..... -
rapes are also commited by the croatian army during the balkan war. and many other atrocities by the myanmar army.
but does that stop the SG gomen from selling arms to them?
welcome to the real world.... -
then u want SAF to train in LCK ground only ar?
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5SIR is the unit that is involved in this exercise.
the guy (2nd from left) is the CO of 5SIR. LTC Andrew Lim -
never really liked the TNI camouflage.
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and do you guys think our garment are noble people?
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the only thing the Indon army can teach us is "How to Rape Chinese girls as a Political Weapon".
meanwhile, perhaps we can offer our Temasek lady boss to them......afterall. the KPPU Anti-Monopolistic Commision already raped us wolesale.......and their Vice President says,"Carry On"
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From the BBC :
A young ethnic Chinese Indonesian woman who had been counselling women raped during rioting in May has been found murdered at her home in Jakarta.
The body of Martadinata Haryono, 17, was found by her father on Friday night.
Rights groups say more than 160 ethnic Chinese were raped
She died of multiple stab wounds. A report in the Indonesian evening newspaper Suara Pembaruan said a police autopsy indicated she may also have been raped.
Miss Haryono and her mother both worked for Volunteers for Humanity, one of several groups established to counsel ethnic Chinese victims of the May unrest.
It was one of the first groups to bring attention to the issue of mass rapes.
Full report available from BBC here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/190632.stm -
I find their camouflage very effective though especially when used together with the camouflage net on the helmet.Originally posted by ferryman2393:never really liked the TNI camouflage.
But when seen wearing in a parade is another issue altogether.
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the moment they see our Temasek lady boss, they will "under-stand"...Originally posted by Dr Who:the only thing the Indon army can teach us is "How to Rape Chinese girls as a Political Weapon".
meanwhile, perhaps we can offer our Temasek lady boss to them......afterall. the KPPU Anti-Monopolistic Commision already raped us wolesale.......and their Vice President says,"Carry On"
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From the BBC :
A young ethnic Chinese Indonesian woman who had been counselling women raped during rioting in May has been found murdered at her home in Jakarta.
The body of Martadinata Haryono, 17, was found by her father on Friday night.
Rights groups say more than 160 ethnic Chinese were raped
She died of multiple stab wounds. A report in the Indonesian evening newspaper Suara Pembaruan said a police autopsy indicated she may also have been raped.
Miss Haryono and her mother both worked for Volunteers for Humanity, one of several groups established to counsel ethnic Chinese victims of the May unrest.
It was one of the first groups to bring attention to the issue of mass rapes.
Full report available from BBC here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/190632.stm -
Its call getting to know your potential enemy.Originally posted by Dr Who:
SINGAPORE: The Singapore Army and the Indonesian National Army are conducting an annual bilateral exercise, code-named Safkar Indopura, in Singapore.
The exercise began on November 19 and will end on December 2.
About 350 commanders and soldiers from Singapore and Indonesia are taking part in the exercise.
The Ministry of Defence said the successful bilateral exercise is another testament to the excellent ties between the Singapore Army and the Indonesian National Army.
Since 1989, the exercise has been conducted alternately in Singapore and Indonesia. - CNA/ac
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What is the Indonesian army (TNI) like?
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Indon troops abuse West Papuan man.
Victim of Indonesian Army......words were carved on her body after rape.......(likely East Timor, but many rapes occurred in Jakata anti Chinese riots 199
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Why should we help our potential enemies? Doesn't MINDEF knows that the TNI hate us?
Are our politicians so stupid? Pay them top class salaries to make this kind of decision........training with Rapists of Chinese girls........rape was used as a weapon by the Indon army in Jarkarta in 1998.......phui!
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Our Politicians instead should be raped by the Indon Army ! phui.....phui.....double phui..... -
A motivation to defend singapore........
Papuans are better than silly indonesians. -
Originally posted by Dr Who:
This is a very disturbing picture. You can hardly tell the TNI and SAF soldier apart this close up. TNI troops are now wearing helmet camo that look like SAF helmet camo. In low light and from a distance, it will be impossible to tell them apart.
They even use SAF weapons like U100, SAR-21, CIS 50 and CIS 40AGL.
I don't know what's wrong with our government. They love to support the militaries of murderous regimes like Indonesia and Burma with lethal military aid.Originally posted by Dr Who:
Actually these pics are posed. The words are not carved onto the body lah. Just written. These pics together with some that show males being tortured in a room with an Indonesian flag conveniently placed there, are all posed. Most probably by Acehnese.
This is not to say rape and torture didn't happen.
But the pics are fake. -
They're women if you read up on it.Originally posted by chino65:Actually these pics are posed. The words are not carved onto the body lah. Just written. These pics together with some that show males being tortured in a room with an Indonesian flag conveniently placed there, are all posed. Most probably by Acehnese.
This is not to say rape and torture didn't happen.
But the pics are fake. -
cannot find the site to read leh...
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Did I say they are not? Please read before you start some silly argument.Originally posted by wonderamazement:They're women if you read up on it. -
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=241569Originally posted by caleb_chiang:cannot find the site to read leh... -
Purpose is either their people get raped or us.
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Eh, anyone got the ST picture ??? Why tt got got orange armband one ??
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The evil fellow on the left taught the Bali bombers to slaughter 202 innocents. He's released from jail after only a 26-month sentence. The same court gave the Christian Sunday school teacher on the right three years for teaching others to turn the other cheek.
Welcome to Indonesia...... I spit on the unfairness and those highly paid Ministers , Generals, and mentors in Singapore who continue to carry the Indonesian oversized balls...... -
Well Believe in Karma.. one day their country will topple.
Indonesia is a good place... Plenty of natural resources... the only sad thing is that, they do not love it and they do not treasure it
with proper management and care, Indonesia can be set to compete with nations like china Japan USA...
but they are lacking in foresight and they apparently are not managing themselves well.. one day.. it will be at their loss... where they start to wake up...
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Originally posted by Dr Who:
I agree with you completely.
The evil fellow on the left taught the Bali bombers to slaughter 202 innocents. He's released from jail after only a 26-month sentence. The same court gave the Christian Sunday school teacher on the right three years for teaching others to turn the other cheek.
Welcome to Indonesia...... I spit on the unfairness and those highly paid Ministers , Generals, and mentors in Singapore who continue to carry the Indonesian oversized balls......
But unfortunately, the reality is that a place like Indonesia will never be well-governed, If tthe government of today falls, the next government will be equally ruthless - be they Islamic, Javanese or Acehnese etc.
It is funny as most of these SE Asian peoples had empires going back more than a thousand years like the Cambodians, Javanese, Siam etc yet today, they are still medieval in many ways. -
What I am trying to say is that, with Indonesia at least, maybe our government is right in supporting them. (Though this is contrary to what I said earlier.)
The current Indo government is still relatively " moderate " and enjoys a certain amount of popular support. If they fall by violent means, the next government that rises in its place will definitely be worst.
But Burma is a different case. -
We would be safer if the Indons were to fight amongst themselves:
but our leaders instead want a stable Indonesia? For whose benefit? Surely not Singapore's ? -
Wrong.Originally posted by Dr Who:We would be safer if the Indons were to fight amongst themselves:
but our leaders instead want a stable Indonesia? For whose benefit? Surely not Singapore's ?
If you read history, all prolonged wars spread to neighbours one way or another.
Even if it doesn't, the next government of Indon borne out of warfare would surely be an extremist one. And we lose a source of trade at best, or they export their extremism in a worst case scenario like Sukarno. -
An Indonesia Civil War may affect us much more than you think it might not.Originally posted by Dr Who:We would be safer if the Indons were to fight amongst themselves:
but our leaders instead want a stable Indonesia? For whose benefit? Surely not Singapore's ?
You want peace and security, make sure your neighbours have the ability to retain strong governance and responsible usage of this.