Is this possible?
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dont think so. they wont risk the young
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I wonder lazer... what if I was a NSF REC/PTE/LCP/CPL instead of a CPT.. would I still have any authority?Originally posted by LazerLordz:
You should have exercised your rightful authority.
But then again, I have had similar thoughts when I was on my way back from camp.
Thankfully I was in my long 4 and jungle hat.
OT abit-You wear jungle hat (I assume it's the recce hat) on the MRT/Bus?
Again, I wonder if an NSF REC/PTE/LCP/CPL would I have any authority, and if the NCC kids wearing MSG, SSG ranks would bother about this "small fry".Originally posted by Seth35:NO....You have a Right to Discipline them...As long as they are wearing the Uniform...Your a higher ranking Officer....If they give you that arrogant answer... you have a right to write in to their HQ regarding disciplinary matters....
Even when i had my CLT course in the past...We were trained by NSF Attache...Or so called MTT's....I dont see a reason why you wont want to "advise" them.... -
From what I was taught since my days in NCC is that any rank in NS > any rank in NCC excluding teacher officers or those with pure chocolate bars with no oreo white straps..
Almost all the cadets from my school forget the use for a firing and retaining pin and how to strip/assemble their rifle once their Train Fire training passed.
The only Cadets that are slightly more possible to be sent for help in the battlefield will be the CLTs, since they GENERALLY are more mature, well trained and more combat fit compared to the younger cadets. OF course they are much differences between them as compared to the NSFs and NSmen. -
To chanjyj:
Of course I didn't wear lah. But I had it on my shoulder. -
Who cares when nation survival is threatened, and who knows what the invaders will do to the young? Better to die for your nation than be killed like sheeps......Originally posted by Nadare:dont think so. they wont risk the young -
onli 3rd world countries would think the way u doOriginally posted by crusader91:Who cares when nation survival is threatened, and who knows what the invaders will do to the young? Better to die for your nation than be killed like sheeps...... -
What is total defence then?Originally posted by Rockhound:onli 3rd world countries would think the way u do -
something to remind us that we got a part to do and that something has already been planned...Originally posted by crusader91:What is total defence then?
and fighting is not a kid's responsibility...
surviving and making sure that their children's children remember the sacrifice of real soldiers in the future...
if all the kids die....might as welll kill everyone....
i hope u dont see people dying and begging you to save their lives and dying soon after cos I did before... -
I pity your ignorance.
Total defence is about multi-faceted defence...
psychological - prepared in the mind
military - by force
civil - infrastructure, logistics, hospitals, etc. to have the capacity to handle disasters
and got 2 more i think..
it doesn't mean every baby, kid, old granny fight la..use your stupid brain. -
Makes me wonder what they are taught in NCC these days.
Anyway, back to the question on the NCC cadets creating a ruckus on the MRT.
Firstly, these boys are in the same uniform that the SAF dons. They are essentially SAF equipment and anyone who wears them are subject to military law.
If their conduct were questionable, any SAF personnel regardless of rank, has an obligation to remind them of the responsibilities and conduct required in uniform.
Of course, thats a very legalistic point of view.
As a citizen, we all have a moral obligation to educate our younger generation. We all have should be able to speak up against what is obviously wrong. The sad truth is that most of us do not like "trouble" and choose to turn a blind eye to what is wrong.
Rank and NCC aside. If you are an ordinary guy sitting at the back of the bus, u see these kids in front of you, whip out a marker and starts vandalizing the chairs, would you speak up?
Rank in view. If you see a "Major", board the MRT, and rushes to sit down on one of the seats instead of allowing the pregnant lady behind him, would you as a "CPL" speak up?
So when it comes to these cadets, I'm suggesting that people unleash every four letter word at them for their behavior. But just that we play an active role in educating them. If they are rude in their response, then we let the disciplinary measures come in.
I've personally addressed an NCC cadet for being severely "in/out" of uniform before. I was not in uniform nor did I identify myself as part of SAF. Firstly, he was in Long 4, with his top button undone, and a white collared T-shirt inside, with the collars sticking out of his no.4. It was a horrid sight that I couldn't stomach.
Of course, I could just be totally Singaporean and "Aiya, let someone else deal with him." I guess I just wasn't having a good day.. -
HAHAAHAH!!!!!!!! Imagine an old granny like liang popo standing in the battlefield kung fu(bruce lee) style deflecting bullets like jedi and dodging everything like matrix in slow mo!!Originally posted by specialOps:it doesn't mean every baby, kid, old granny fight la..use your stupid brain. -
The only way NCC will be fighting in the front line is when, all the adult population got wiped out, leaving us with teenagers and children.
THEN NCC will be able to start to form themselves into a army and fight other teenagers. -
Aiya got war who will not fight of your country? Being a teen and even though im not in NCC(im a proud scout) i will still fight of my country should they ever invade Spore. doesnt really matter which CCA you are from as long as you are a citizen i feel that you have an obligation to die for your nation. be it as support crew or guerillas i will play my part and im sure many other teens would do to. in times of war as long as you can kill enemy can liao dont have to learn those kind of chim chim army things, no gun knife also can or broomstick.
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fight other teenagers? for what?Originally posted by ray243:The only way NCC will be fighting in the front line is when, all the adult population got wiped out, leaving us with teenagers and children.
THEN NCC will be able to start to form themselves into a army and fight other teenagers. -
when rounds start coming towards u...when things blow up...confirm u will cower..u are just a liability in the endOriginally posted by rain-coat:Aiya got war who will not fight of your country? Being a teen and even though im not in NCC(im a proud scout) i will still fight of my country should they ever invade Spore. doesnt really matter which CCA you are from as long as you are a citizen i feel that you have an obligation to die for your nation. be it as support crew or guerillas i will play my part and im sure many other teens would do to. in times of war as long as you can kill enemy can liao dont have to learn those kind of chim chim army things, no gun knife also can or broomstick. -
alamak. if got war.
i not ncc or wadeve crap.
I want go dere and fight!!!.
cause might b fun.
hide 1 corner.
assasinate ppl. -
possible leh see the kids all so pro ... strategy in DOTA lagi power than old ppl... accuracy sibei pro.... in CS.... but then again they shld know how to pull the trigger ... got the simi marksman course mah.... shoot 4 bullets.. waste time nia
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this kind of thing very hard to say one lah must be at that situation then can know... lets jus hope that when the time comes i wont cowerOriginally posted by Rockhound:when rounds start coming towards u...when things blow up...confirm u will cower..u are just a liability in the end -
How old are you?? Have this kind of thoughts for war..Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:alamak. if got war.
i not ncc or wadeve crap.
I want go dere and fight!!!.
cause might b fun.
hide 1 corner.
assasinate ppl.
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Why you so suay let me catch this error. I hope you were kidding.Originally posted by M551Sheridian:possible leh see the kids all so pro ... strategy in DOTA lagi power than old ppl... accuracy sibei pro.... in CS.... but then again they shld know how to pull the trigger ... got the simi marksman course mah.... shoot 4 bullets.. waste time nia
DoTA CS, simi lj? You think there's health potion health pack health whatever Your life no HP man. Dont need drastic injury. Twist your ankle enough to screw you upside down in tight situation.
No sweat No pain No need to breath no effort click mouse = squeeze trigger in low level exercise?
I want to see someone bunny hop no combat load just with a loaded SAR 21 with boots.
Go |n+3rnet W@rri0Rs! -
Teenagers hormones level can easy start a fight liao. Now...take away adult supervision, give them plenty of guns with live ammo.Originally posted by rain-coat:fight other teenagers? for what?
Add in the nationilsm we see in many NCC cadets. What do you think will happen? -
LOL! If can bunny hop, my SOC timing will be fantastic man!Originally posted by CM06:Why you so suay let me catch this error. I hope you were kidding.
DoTA CS, simi lj? You think there's health potion health pack health whatever Your life no HP man. Dont need drastic injury. Twist your ankle enough to screw you upside down in tight situation.
No sweat No pain No need to breath no effort click mouse = squeeze trigger in low level exercise?
I want to see someone bunny hop no combat load just with a loaded SAR 21 with boots.
Go |n+3rnet W@rri0Rs! -
Cause games in not realistic enough. And we all know singaporeans will hardly try out other games if it's not dota or CS....or maple story.Originally posted by CM06:Why you so suay let me catch this error. I hope you were kidding.
DoTA CS, simi lj? You think there's health potion health pack health whatever Your life no HP man. Dont need drastic injury. Twist your ankle enough to screw you upside down in tight situation.
No sweat No pain No need to breath no effort click mouse = squeeze trigger in low level exercise?
I want to see someone bunny hop no combat load just with a loaded SAR 21 with boots.
Go |n+3rnet W@rri0Rs!
How about a realistic game, where you add in all the annoying bits we see in real life.
Fight a war with supplies, if you got cut off...you will run out of bullets.
Spend a few hours marching or travelling from base to battleground.
Getting shot and getting injured...instead of health decreasing, you have to limp or ask your friend to carry you back to base if you die.
You have to listen to your squad commanders and etc, no such thing like rambo or lone wolf. If you can't listen to them...you can be shot( in game terms, you will be banned)
If you die, you will be forced to leave the game.
Factor in the physics, that wind speed can make your bullet miss the target even if you got scope.
You can't stay in aiming posisition all the time...you will get damn tired from it.
You got stamia limit, after carrying all the equipment, you will feel tired, making you hard to run or aim properly if you travel long distance.
You have to go through months of basic training before you can start the game.
You can be friendly fired on even if your friend did not do it on purpose.
There are no coloured name distincition for you to tell if that guy far away is friendly or enemy.
Spend hours getting stuck on things call guard duty.
Spend hours waiting in the base waiting for a fight to happen.
Spend hours cleaning equipment, if not, you weapons will jam during battle.
Spend hours doing footdrills for you to get to know your squad and company members.
There is no such things as pro or noob. Even if you play for a long time, one bullet hitting you can still kill you and put you out of action. A experienced or pro player can still get killed by things called landmine, missile hit, friendly fire,
stray artillery, crashing into a wall while driving and kenna snipe before you know it.
See if any idiot still want to say game is a good indiciation to tell a fighting skill of a person.
And most people who say they are good in CS don't even play any other type of game.
And I doubt they will play a game with all the features I listed above.
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u're absolutely right.
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Come to think of it...I would wish this type of game is available.
So that all the bunny hoppers know that CS isn't realistic at all. And kill all the lone wolf players, who's concept of friends/teams before self is so hard for them to understand.