Is is possible to develop nuclear weaponary as long
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As you didnt sign the Nuclear Prolification treaty and is under threat from a neighbouring country (eg Thai ,Msia, Indonesia can all attack Sin.. )
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I wonder what is your motive to ask this question.
But this question doesn't seem relevant and doesn't need to be answered. -
If you develop nuclear weaponry in such a manner, your biggest threat won't be your neighbours after that.
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Nuclear weapons is dangerous
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u wanna bomb urself?
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How did you even picture "nuclear" and "Singapore" together?
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as you have seen, having nukes is now a liability to the owner rather than an asset..
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If you are under threat and wish to show a state of aggression that you are prepared to fight.
Lets say if Indo were to attack us. in the policy of konfrasti or what ever they call it
Would Singapore care about the attack or launch its nukes? -
and what the hell would they want to show a state of aggression over?
think...
sheesh!!Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:If you are under threat and wish to show a state of aggression that you are prepared to fight.
Lets say if Indo were to attack us. in the policy of konfrasti or what ever they call it
Would Singapore care about the attack or launch its nukes? -
Such an amatuerish statement.Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:If you are under threat and wish to show a state of aggression that you are prepared to fight.
Lets say if Indo were to attack us. in the policy of konfrasti or what ever they call it
Would Singapore care about the attack or launch its nukes? -
Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:
We dont have that much extra resource in the Earth to spam nukes. Our Earth is already at its limits in providing life to humans. And to even consider building nukes is extreme-shortsightedness.
If you are under threat and wish to show a state of aggression that you are prepared to fight.
Lets say if Indo were to attack us. in the policy of konfrasti or what ever they call it
Would Singapore care about the attack or launch its nukes?
1. If any country build nuclear weapons in SEA, they will probably face sanctions or inspire all other neighbours to build them. Where's the deterrence in this case?
2. Even the most simplest of nukes (aka the atomic bomb) is enough to destroy more than 1 country. Put it in SG and Malaysia aso kena burnt. Not to mention the radiation effects that will spread out over the next few decades. The whole economical viability of SEA will be destroyed.
3. Thirdly, the use of a large and modern armed forces is clearly to deter aggression from other countries. A tatic like the konfrontasi can be countered if our lines of communications are secure and home guard are alert.
i) If such an event ever occur again, the Navy and Air Force will probably have to hold the Straits of Malacca and the Straits of Singapore to smooth communication lines.
ii) Diplomatically, the foreign minister will have to gain allies from our immediate neighbours such as Malaysia and Thailand, possibly including Vietnam and Brunei to denounce the aggressor and also, ask for International help from the US, Australia, UK, China and India.
iii) Internationally, we will have to seek the support of the UN to restrict any agressor
iv) In our islands, the home guard will have to be ready against possible infiltrators and invasion.
4. Precision weapons does better damage nowadays. Why destroy an entire economy when you can just target the vital buildings?
Please think hard.
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gd analysis.....Originally posted by abao:We dont have that much extra resource in the Earth to spam nukes. Our Earth is already at its limits in providing life to humans. And to even consider building nukes is extreme-shortsightedness.
1. If any country build nuclear weapons in SEA, they will probably face sanctions or inspire all other neighbours to build them. Where's the deterrence in this case?
2. Even the most simplest of nukes (aka the atomic bomb) is enough to destroy more than 1 country. Put it in SG and Malaysia aso kena burnt. Not to mention the radiation effects that will spread out over the next few decades. The whole economical viability of SEA will be destroyed.
3. Thirdly, the use of a large and modern armed forces is clearly to deter aggression from other countries. A tatic like the konfrontasi can be countered if our lines of communications are secure and home guard are alert.
i) If such an event ever occur again, the Navy and Air Force will probably have to hold the Straits of Malacca and the Straits of Singapore to smooth communication lines.
ii) Diplomatically, the foreign minister will have to gain allies from our immediate neighbours such as Malaysia and Thailand, possibly including Vietnam and Brunei to denounce the aggressor and also, ask for International help from the US, Australia, UK, China and India.
iii) Internationally, we will have to seek the support of the UN to restrict any agressor
iv) In our islands, the home guard will have to be ready against possible infiltrators and invasion.
4. Precision weapons does better damage nowadays. Why destroy an entire economy when you can just target the vital buildings?
Please think hard. -
U attack me, i attack you lor..Originally posted by the Bear:and what the hell would they want to show a state of aggression over?
think...
sheesh!!
Like they say-Self defence -
Good analysis on your part..Originally posted by abao:We dont have that much extra resource in the Earth to spam nukes. Our Earth is already at its limits in providing life to humans. And to even consider building nukes is extreme-shortsightedness.
1. If any country build nuclear weapons in SEA, they will probably face sanctions or inspire all other neighbours to build them. Where's the deterrence in this case?
2. Even the most simplest of nukes (aka the atomic bomb) is enough to destroy more than 1 country. Put it in SG and Malaysia aso kena burnt. Not to mention the radiation effects that will spread out over the next few decades. The whole economical viability of SEA will be destroyed.
3. Thirdly, the use of a large and modern armed forces is clearly to deter aggression from other countries. A tatic like the konfrontasi can be countered if our lines of communications are secure and home guard are alert.
i) If such an event ever occur again, the Navy and Air Force will probably have to hold the Straits of Malacca and the Straits of Singapore to smooth communication lines.
ii) Diplomatically, the foreign minister will have to gain allies from our immediate neighbours such as Malaysia and Thailand, possibly including Vietnam and Brunei to denounce the aggressor and also, ask for International help from the US, Australia, UK, China and India.
iii) Internationally, we will have to seek the support of the UN to restrict any agressor
iv) In our islands, the home guard will have to be ready against possible infiltrators and invasion.
4. Precision weapons does better damage nowadays. Why destroy an entire economy when you can just target the vital buildings?
Please think hard.
But Un is just a governing body.. Did it interfere in the Burma riots, did it intervene in US and Iraq?
You see, Indonesia has more people power than us, considering they have a large land mass and higher birth rate, so their army is larger than us
Even though they have bough SU-30's , their army is still a force to be reckoned with.We only have 4.5million people, and the women are not obliged to fight.. That leaves about 2.3m for males to fight Indonesia
They have over 10m people if im not wrong, so, the use of a ICBM would be better than a precision attack
Considering if they were to launch a land invasion against pulau Tekong, by first destroying the army's supplies, could we stand our ground? Even if HIMARS were to position there, together with our soon to come F15 Strike Eagle /S version, there could at least be a second round of reinforcements.Our lines could be strained 'cuz they can attack on all fronts -
money is the most powerful weapon of all....
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Yes, the UN is only a governing body. Nations have time and again ignored its demands, most recently the unilateral moves by the US to invade Iraq. Look what happened to the US now. Bogged down in Iraq, with little or no Allies willing to support its operations and grounds that is conductive for fostering militancy instead of democracy. Such is the folly of not following the UN's advice.Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:Good analysis on your part..
But Un is just a governing body.. Did it interfere in the Burma riots, did it intervene in US and Iraq?
You see, Indonesia has more people power than us, considering they have a large land mass and higher birth rate, so their army is larger than us
Even though they have bough SU-30's , their army is still a force to be reckoned with.We only have 4.5million people, and the women are not obliged to fight.. That leaves about 2.3m for males to fight Indonesia
They have over 10m people if im not wrong, so, the use of a ICBM would be better than a precision attack
Considering if they were to launch a land invasion against pulau Tekong, by first destroying the army's supplies, could we stand our ground? Even if HIMARS were to position there, together with our soon to come F15 Strike Eagle /S version, there could at least be a second round of reinforcements.Our lines could be strained 'cuz they can attack on all fronts
Also, the Straits of Malacca is an important shipping route for many countries, and the life-line of China, Japan, South Korea, Phillipines, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries that import and export goods. In an event of a confrontation or war, it would make sense for the major powers and developed nations to stabilize the area, and the best option would be to maintain the status quo. Thus they will send in military forces to keep the peace in the region.
Yes, if indonesia manages to mobilize all its males to fight they will have at least 100m, since their population has some 230million (afterall they are the World's largest muslim nation). However, look at its borders. Who are its immediate neighbours? Will they keep a blind eye if their own economy is going to be destroyed?
Secondly, even if there is no external support, do you think they can launch an invasion with 100m people. Think of all the logistics involved. Do you think they are landing on sampan boats? The logistics planning would be on a scale bigger than D-Day. Even the World's superpower (US) can only support an invasion scale the size of their marines.
Thirdly, Indonesia is not truely united. There are many tribesman and local customs that differs markly from Jakarta. Remember Aceh? It wasnt until the Tsunami that the 2 sides are willing to make peace for posperity. Within its 10000 islands, how many has their utmost allegance to Jakarta? Using propaganda in the right place will see Indonesia having internal strife.
Using an ICBM on Indonesia is an easy solution, no doubt. But once launched, have you thought of the consequences? We will lose all our legimicity and morality. Who will even support such a country in this case?
Furthermore, how damaging would it be to mother Earth? Those large lands in Indonesia houses large swarthes of Rainforest and Arable land. Do you think we have enough land to grow all our food? The prices of flour has rose precisely due to the drought in Australia and low yield in other Wheat producing countries. Land would make better use by either farming it to feed more people or retaining its rainforest to check the growth of carbon dioxide.
Launching a land invasion against Pulau Tekong?! That's pretty laughable. Can they reach the island first? They'd better make sure they can avoid being destroyed en-route by our navy from Changi base. And the Air Force will be either engaged with the Indonesia Air Force or Bombing Indonesia's Landing Ships. Unless you count Malaysia in.'
If that is the case, then the odds will be stacked against us in terms of land forces. The Malaysian Army can move down South against us while the Indonesian take its time to move up North.
In this case, HE cruise missiles will do the trick. Or precision bombs from the F-15SG. Strike all important military buildings on the surface. And jam radar communications. Implement Blackouts in Singapore. Stop all out going travel. As the strategem goes: "Then there is no path to retreat, people will hard to their hardest and therefore lives." We will likely hold out in the hope that foreign aid reaches Singapore soon. The Navy will change tack, switching to Anti-submarine warfare. By sinking supply ships of their navy, we can reduce the effectiveness of the Indonesian Navy. The Surface Navy can also embark on a trip to mine the Straits south of Singapore (aka Riau Islands) while our Air Force makes desperate defence of Singapore's Airspace.
Of course, what I've said are all theoretical and I am at best, "taking about military strategies on paper". -
look instead of arming missile and shells with nuke...it is better to load money instead...so drop it in the middle of the human wave attack...and get popcorn and watch they kill each other for that money! lol ! its more fun doing that....
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We should not be concerned about nuclear weapons just yet.
First we should watch out for nuclear power stations. This the first step for a 3rd world country towards procuring nuclear weapons..
The theory of nuclear fission is very, very simple.
The making of the nuclear device is the difficult part.
But first, a nuclear plant for peaceful purposes.
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and why the hell would they want to attack me?Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:U attack me, i attack you lor..
Like they say-Self defence