Ultimax being phased out?
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To special ops, you can have a gpmg per section.Hehe it's called AI section.
There's more than enough GPMG to distribute to me anyway. -
This is the load I carried as a 30 year-old reservist as the platoon runner.Originally posted by ijack022399k:y i say heavy? cos if u carry n run wif it full battle order in the afternoon n in the rain during every outfield in sispec when every session is a tekan session, its heavy in my point of view, its subjective... n YES, i do serve in the army... in an infantry battalion in case u r wondering..
PRC 77 radioset alone weighs 10.7kg. Together with all the SOP accessories here: handset, long antennae, short antennae, 1 battery + 1 spare, the total package is over 16kg.
I would've paid money to be the SAW gunner. -
There's a so-called para version marketed by ST, where the butt is removed, and a super short thing is used in its place, so that the plate behind won't be exposed and end up with the whole bolt assembly flying backwards.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Is there a U100 "para" version with retractable butt? Btw...any U100 gunners here? Care to share if when providing suppressive fire, you lay a few mags next to u so that you can provide a quick reload? Or do you do it the standard way?
But in SAF infantry, I think Ultimax Para is never used. However the GPMG buttless version is used on some armoured vehicles as the commander's MG. -
yeah la...but your AI section's GPMG is on the vehicle's rear hatches mah...you don't dismount and run with it right?Originally posted by CM06:To special ops, you can have a gpmg per section.Hehe it's called AI section.
There's more than enough GPMG to distribute to me anyway. -
Things that are mounted, can be dismounted. To do or not to do will be known only to people who have been trained. Doctrines dictate action.Originally posted by specialOps:yeah la...but your AI section's GPMG is on the vehicle's rear hatches mah...you don't dismount and run with it right? -
There's a reason why you get to sit in a vehicle -some of the time-.....
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I guess depend on situation?Originally posted by specialOps:yeah la...but your AI section's GPMG is on the vehicle's rear hatches mah...you don't dismount and run with it right?
Shouldn't be so black & white. -
Is the Ultimax receiver constructed of sheet metal stamping or milled etc?
Anyone knows?
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I just checked, it is indeed a stamped steel receiver. I think this is the only weapon in SAF that's made using this method. -
Yo Saw gunner here !!!Originally posted by SpecOps87:Is there a U100 "para" version with retractable butt? Btw...any U100 gunners here? Care to share if when providing suppressive fire, you lay a few mags next to u so that you can provide a quick reload? Or do you do it the standard way?
SpecOps87 - you never use a saw before right ? U100- butt is removable. Once remove it is consider "para" version. Of course if you want - you can change to shorter barrel, then that oen is a real para version.
I do not know about the rest, but for me, no way i would be laying my mags next to me. You should trained to take out your mag so fast, so no need to layout everything in a picnic which is asking for trouble. As sudden chance of event like artillary bombarment , or enemy engagement, you may end up leaving ammo behind. I rather have every on me, as i can take it out fast enough. Remember Saw gunner is part of the squad , so move as part of the squad, so most of the time you be doing fire and movement instead of stationary.
As for mags - 30rds mags are not as disadvanage as people claims.
They are the best for fire movement and quick engagement, because of lighter weight you can bring your U100 into action faster, easier to fire, control and more accurate. Just have to control your burst.
Thus a saw gunner must know when is best to use which magzine 30rds mag or 100rd mag. -
Fired it a couple of times...but not enlisted. Thank for the insights,but say if its in a defensive scenario, would you still lay out "picnic" style or leave it on ur SBO/LBV?Originally posted by storywolf:Yo Saw gunner here !!!
SpecOps87 - you never use a saw before right ? U100- butt is removable. Once remove it is consider "para" version. Of course if you want - you can change to shorter barrel, then that oen is a real para version.
I do not know about the rest, but for me, no way i would be laying my mags next to me. You should trained to take out your mag so fast, so no need to layout everything in a picnic which is asking for trouble. As sudden chance of event like artillary bombarment , or enemy engagement, you may end up leaving ammo behind. I rather have every on me, as i can take it out fast enough. Remember Saw gunner is part of the squad , so move as part of the squad, so most of the time you be doing fire and movement instead of stationary.
As for mags - 30rds mags are not as disadvanage as people claims.
They are the best for fire movement and quick engagement, because of lighter weight you can bring your U100 into action faster, easier to fire, control and more accurate. Just have to control your burst.
Thus a saw gunner must know when is best to use which magzine 30rds mag or 100rd mag. -
dependsOriginally posted by SpecOps87:Fired it a couple of times...but not enlisted. Thank for the insights,but say if its in a defensive scenario, would you still lay out "picnic" style or leave it on ur SBO/LBV?
if u r doing defense on a initial defense line, cannot pinic
if dug in liao, shld be can picnic
correct ?
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u from vietnam war ?Originally posted by chino65:This is the load I carried as a 30 year-old reservist as the platoon runner.
PRC 77 radioset alone weighs 10.7kg. Together with all the SOP accessories here: handset, long antennae, short antennae, 1 battery + 1 spare, the total package is over 16kg.
I would've paid money to be the SAW gunner. -
the 1st saw gunner will dismount the gpmg...Originally posted by specialOps:yeah la...but your AI section's GPMG is on the vehicle's rear hatches mah...you don't dismount and run with it right?
1 mg per section...
note tat its a LCP/CPL handling tat
something different from teh infantry... -
He not from vietname war lar....but training time, the PRC-77 still quite good.Originally posted by I_love_my_toilet:u from vietnam war ?
The other sets with more advanced secure features (I cannot say ...) are issued more to frontline units....with spares for reserve units too. -
Haha, that's exactly what I said when I first saw it in 1990's.Originally posted by I_love_my_toilet:u from vietnam war ?
According to websites, the PRC-77 was one of the most widely-used radios in the world.
The thing was tough. You can drop it, kick it, and it still works. -
no worries i use it before during sispec ONLY.Originally posted by chino65:Haha, that's exactly what I said when I first saw it in 1990's.
According to websites, the PRC-77 was one of the most widely-used radios in the world.
The thing was tough. You can drop it, kick it, and it still works.
tot its for training ONLY haha...
i find it rather obsolette liao coz it doesnt have AJ or secure mode...
so much hype about 3G army sia -
Originally posted by specialOps:yeah la...but your AI section's GPMG is on the vehicle's rear hatches mah...you don't dismount and run with it right?
Special ops -this is how a GPMG look like !
see the carrying handle - look from down from it at the bottom there is this circle hole. Yep for GMPG mount they all have a large pin which go to this hole.
Yep the pin that go through that hole is the thing that secure the GPMG to the mount. To dismount - just pull the pin that lock the GPMG throught that hole and GPMG is dismounted - that is how quickly and simple. -
From experience ....Originally posted by SpecOps87:Fired it a couple of times...but not enlisted. Thank for the insights,but say if its in a defensive scenario, would you still lay out "picnic" style or leave it on ur SBO/LBV?
Lay out in picnic seem organised and prepare, great just prepare to shoot and shoot in front that all ... yep buffet shoot ? that only happen in range !!!
Dream on when did enemy become so stupid ? haha
Enemy is mobile, he can hit you from front, but can suddenly hit from side or back ..... that is alway unpredictable movement .....
Even in defensive position, you need to shift manpower to enforce the side that is under attack, also shift position often or withdraw or counter attack.
When you have all hell breaking loose, people all shooting, place fall apart .... what is the chances of your mags still there nicely - no they be all blown, kick, drop all over ........ with smoke, structure and things falling , lack of light you think you have time to feel or look for for your scattered mags ? best opinion alway in your SBO/LBV ! It is on you, you do not have to worry that in the heat of the battle you cannot find it or force to leave it behind. You can reach it without seeing.
Even in fox hole !!! what happen if a grenade get thrown in ? You got time to grab you picnic mags? No you jump out with SBO and rifle ... Also you there is no time to bend down to look for a drop mag .... the moment you stop shooting your hole will be over run ....!!!
Remember that is why a good saw gunner or soldier alway know how many rounds he shot, so he will knows when he is about to change his mags .... He must plan ahead, under which cover he will change his mag, from which pouch that mag is .... -
I thought it was for "tekan" purpose only. Fricking 16kg for a reservist is no joke.Originally posted by I_love_my_toilet:no worries i use it before during sispec ONLY.
tot its for training ONLY haha...
Sometimes during breaks at route march I had to get my buddies to pull me up. And boarding 3 tonner they automatically give me a helping hand.
And I was very fit at that time.
Once during FOFO assault I yelled after my PC to pull me out from the comms trench after him. I couldn't push myself out of the comms trench fter a whole night of marching and this was our 3rd assault since sun down and the sun was now rising for the next day.
After that I told my PC that using the 77 set all of us reservist runners in Bravo Company cannot tahan. And worst than that, we are supposed to keep up with the PC - the most important man - not slow him down.
Furthermore, the platoons only needed to keep in contact with the other Bravo platoons and Bravo Company HQ. So the distance usually isn't more than 10km for comms.
For many excercises after that, we were issued hand held sets when possible and the 77 set stayed in the HQ rovers. -
Haha...of course I know how GPMG look like lar..Originally posted by storywolf:
Special ops -this is how a GPMG look like !
see the carrying handle - look from down from it at the bottom there is this circle hole. Yep for GMPG mount they all have a large pin which go to this hole.
Yep the pin that go through that hole is the thing that secure the GPMG to the mount. To dismount - just pull the pin that lock the GPMG throught that hole and GPMG is dismounted - that is how quickly and simple.
I'm an infantry-trained, intelligence-by-vocation, based with an armoured unit....haha... -
dunno abt u guys...but i usually kept 1 mag at the left cargo pocket of my trousers last time...anybody did this b4?
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Oh, me too.Originally posted by specialOps:Haha...of course I know how GPMG look like lar..
I'm an infantry-trained, intelligence-by-vocation, based with an armoured unit....haha...
I served in Inf Bde S2, Bn S2 and rifle platoon.