SG buy satellite guided Himars rockets
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S'pore to buy US rocket artillery system,by By David Boey, Defence Correspondent
Strait Times 14.09.2007 today Friday page H8.
--story changed.
1. 9 Himars trucks ,each with
6 rockets tube,and sold with 32 satellite guided rockets.(and 18 launchers
pl read below.)
Range 60 km.Each rocket come ''with 644 armour-piercing bomblets - each smaller than a soft drink can. A salvo of six rockets would thus rain 3,864 bomblets widely over enemy positions, and punch through armour up to 10cm thick.''
(10 cm = 4 inch)Sep 13, 2007
--/www.straitstimes.com/
S'pore to buy US rocket artillery system
$500m deal for army includes 9 Himars trucks, each fitted with six rocket tubes
By David Boey, Defence Correspondent
SINGAPORE has chosen a battle-tested, United States- made rocket artillery system for its army.
The US$330 million (S$500 million) deal would be the army's first rocket artillery system.
The order for the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (Himars) includes -nine trucks, each fitted with a pod of six rocket tubes. At the press of a button, the trucks can launch their rockets to pound enemy positions some 60km away.
What makes the system lethal is the 644 armour-piercing bomblets - each smaller than a soft drink can - packed into each rocket warhead. A salvo of six rockets would thus rain 3,864 bomblets widely over enemy positions, and punch through armour up to 10cm thick.-
The US Department of Defence said on Wednesday that Singapore wants to buy the Himars.
'The proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been, and continues to be, an important force for economic progress in South-east Asia,' said the Pentagon's Defence Security and Cooperation Agency.
The agency oversees US weapon system sales abroad.
In an interview with The Straits Times last month to mark the Army Open House, Chief of Army Major-General Neo Kian Hong said weapons that allow soldiers to find and destroy targets with precision form a key plank of the army's transformation into a deadly fighting force.
The sharp end of the Singapore Artillery's firepower now takes the form of 155mm heavy artillery guns and quick-firing 120mm mortars.
The Pentagon said the sales package for Singapore includes nine US-made five-tonne trucks, as well as communications sets -and 32 satellite-guided rockets suitable for the Himars.-
Under US law, the Pentagon must inform the US Congress before American-made weapons, or weapon parts, can be sold to foreign nations.
Congress holds the power to block such sales, but rarely does so, said defence industry watchers.
2.HIMARS ---High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, USA
3.why i start a new thread
The current one is too big and take time to read for dial up
user.The old thread cant reflect that SG almost confirm buy the
sys.
4.SG already make bomblets in 155 mm round
Cluster Bombs--Made in Sg
155mm Cargo Round
Image at : http://www.stengg.com/upload/79dBanXiWBoiiZcUD6.gif155mm Cargo Round
The 155mm Hollow Base and Base Bleed Cargo Rounds are Extended Range, Improved Conventional Munitions carrying dual-purpose bomblets, each with a mechanical self-destruct fuze.
5.SG 155
mm cargo carry dual purposes bomblets 2 pages pdf .
http://www.stengg.com/upload/819iE0RQZJP675Q4S3P.pdf
6.C-130 transportable (combat loaded).
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Can it be transported by Chinook?
7.www.zaobao.com--printed version.19.09.2007US DoD request US Congress's approval to sell the followings to Spore:
2 launchers for each truck.Good.
----18 units M142 launchers,each with 6 rockets tube,
----9 Himars 5 tons trucks
----32 XM31 GMLRS-U
----Comm sys
http://www.globalsecurity.org/
more info.
8.It is official news:
WASHINGTON, September 12, 2007 - The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Singapore of High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems as well as associated equipment and services.2 pg PDF.The Government of Singapore has requested a possible
http://www.dsca.osd.mil/
sale of Major Defense Equipment (MDE)
18 M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
.... Launchers
32 XM31 Unitary High Explosive GMLRS Pods
30 M28A1 Multiple Launcher Rocket Systems (MLRS)
......Practice Rocket Pods
35 VRC-92E Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radios
... Systems (SINCGARS)
45 VRC-90E SINCGARS
35 VRC-990 Vehicular Radio Communications Sets
45 VRC-950 Vehicular Radio Communications Sets
9 M1084A1 Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles
.... (FMTV) 5-Ton Trucks
1 M1089A1 Wrecker
Also included are support equipment, communications equipment, spare and repair parts, test sets, batteries, laptop computers, publications and technical data, personnel training and equipment, systems integration support, support services of a Quality Assurance Team and a Technical Assistance Fielding Team, United States (U.S.) Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support.
The estimated cost is $330 million. This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been, and continues to be, an important force for economic progress in Southeast Asia.
The HIMARS will enhance SingaporeÂ’s military capability by providing a highly effective indirect area fire artillery system that is critical to successful deterrence and national defense. HIMARS supplements traditional cannon artillery by delivering high volume firepower in a short time against time-sensitive targets.
At shorter ranges, HIMARS complements tube artillery with heavy barrages against assaulting forces, counter-fire and defense suppression. Singapore will have no difficulty absorbing and integrating this system into its armed forces. The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be: Lockheed Martin Missile and Fire Control at Dallas, Texas and Stewart & Stevenson at Sealy, Texas. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. -
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Finally after some many years of waiting
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Ok now for a HIMARS VS Astros comparism pls.
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Does Singapore need these? We are in Urban Area leh.
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woah that looked pretty scary to me
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only have a range of 60km?
now we know where the missile will b aiming..
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9 sounds kinda little no?
Heard they considered the M270. Imagine those showing up in our backyard. -
GMLRS ( 6 rds per pod)has a range above 70km as reported by many, not 60km.Originally posted by mr_sotong:only have a range of 60km?
now we know where the missile will b aiming..
If we buy ATACM(one rd per pod) , then it has a range of 300km.
Or if we buy EXTRA( 2 rds per pod) which has a range abt 150km. More info here:
http://www.defense-update.com/products/e/extra.htm
All the above are GPS guided munitions and all are tested on MLRS/HIMARS, so having HIMARS give us a lot of options.
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It should be:
18 M142 HIMARS Launchers
32 XM31 Unitary High Explosive GMLRS Pods (x 6 rockets per pod)
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edited. nothing much
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2.Another news report this.But i think ST David Boey is moreOriginally posted by FG42:It should be:
18 M142 HIMARS Launchers
32 XM31 Unitary High Explosive GMLRS Pods (x 6 rockets per pod)
plus other accessories...
reliable in this matter.
3.and a new munition crammed with tank-busting bomblets designed for artillery guns that fire 155mm shells.
---DSTA showcases leading-edge technology projects at Army Open House 2002
The Business Times, Page 6 - Thursday, August 29, 2002
Singapore Armed ForcesÂ’ new firepower to make public debut
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Another news report this.But i think ST David Boey is more
Actually it is part of the official US DoD new release , here the entire list for FMS to be reported to US Congress:
reliable in this matter.
http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2007/Singapore_07-48.pdf
18 M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) Launchers
32 XM31 Unitary High Explosive GMLRS Pods
30 M28A1 Multiple Launcher Rocket Systems (MLRS) Practice Rocket Pods
35 VRC-92E Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radios Systems (SINCGARS)
45 VRC-90E SINCGARS
35 VRC-990 Vehicular Radio Communications Sets
45 VRC-950 Vehicular Radio Communications Sets
9 M1084A1 Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV) 5-Ton Trucks
1 M1089A1 Wrecker
More info and pix can be found here:
http://militarynuts.com/index.php?showtopic=1577&st=90 -
You reckon they're going to launch it off the top level of MSCPs here?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Does Singapore need these? We are in Urban Area leh. -
Himar sounds like a mid eastern name.
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Sounds like the name of an old goat to me.Originally posted by LyonK:Himar sounds like a mid eastern name. -
Its not Himar or Hi Ma!
its HIMARS
High Mobility Artillery Rocket SYSTEM.
Brings a tear to me eye... to see the Himars in SAF! -
and the MOST potential target for our future HIMARS will be.... the Astros
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beats the hell out of buying stupidity-guided Hamas rockets
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Can someone laundry list the munition options and their performance for this system?
Would we likely get the ATACMS for example? -
Well, thatOriginally posted by FG42:and the MOST potential target for our future HIMARS will be.... the Astros
s an interesting scenario.
(If the Astros is detected before firing no need to say...)
Assuming the Astros can remain undetected until firing, and then scoot seconds after shooting, how will the HIMARS target the Astros? -
What a waste to use a GMLRS on astros though. That's what the Air Force superior numbers are for.
Cluster munitons are best used on armour formations/ reinforcement troop movements. To delay, disrupt and destroy. -
Counter-battery fire and drop an over sized arty footprint on them.Originally posted by chino65:Well, that
s an interesting scenario.
(If the Astros is detected before firing no need to say...)
Assuming the Astros can remain undetected until firing, and then scoot seconds after shooting, how will the HIMARS target the Astros? -
precision is the key to avoiding death and injuries of civilian. To be precise, location is important. If Astros is not undetected then there is nothing the airforce, the artillery, LSV, commando or anybody can do.Originally posted by chino65:Well, that
s an interesting scenario.
(If the Astros is detected before firing no need to say...)
Assuming the Astros can remain undetected until firing, and then scoot seconds after shooting, how will the HIMARS target the Astros?
If Astros is our prime target in any hostility, then locating the Astros is one of the primary missions, by all means, at all cost.
HIMARS is just an additional mean to take out the targets once located, especially, when HIMARS out range the Astros (depending on what munitions is used).
Just imagine, when target location identified, it takes time for F-16 to take off, for apache to approach target, but we only need to press the button, if target is within range, HIMARS launched, ...good luck to them. -
US rockets that are available for M270 MLRS/M142 HIMARS:
From M26 to XM31:
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/mlrs.html
US tactical missile for M270 MLRS/M142 HIMARS:
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-140.html
Israeli munition for M270 MLRS/M142 HIMARS:
1) With Ramam Trajectory Corrected System, range up to 45km( latest report) with better accuracy as compared to M26.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/self_propelled_artillery/mlrs/MLRS.html
2) Israel has also developed a GPS guided tactical missile called EXTRA with range up to 150km, with 2 missile in one single pod.
http://www.defense-update.com/products/e/extra.htm
3) Delilah GL Precision Surface Attack Weapon or LORA, is still under development, range could be as high as 300km and beyond.
http://www.defense-update.com/products/d/delilah.htm