Cruise missile defence for SG?
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We already have and in operational use.Originally posted by venny:i wonder wat mahatir will say when singapore buys cruise missiles........
Please check definition of cruise missiles before freaking out. -
he is in surgery right now.... we are going to miss his ranting
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US jet intercepts ballistic missile for first time: officials
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1
A US F-16 fighter used an air-to-air missile to destroy a sounding rocket in its boost phase for the first time this week in a test of a new missile defense concept, US spokesmen said Tuesday.
The system -- named the Net-Centric Airborne Defense Element (NCDE) -- breaks new ground in that it would arm fighter aircraft or drones with missiles fast enough to intercept a ballistic missile as it lifts into space.
The aircraft would have to get to within a 100 miles of the launch site to catch the ascending missile in the first two to three minutes after launch.
But it could be very useful in a short range combat situation against short and medium range missiles, said Rick Lehner, a spokesman for the US Missile Defense Agency.
The Pentagon has two other better known boost phase intercept systems under development -- the Airborne Laser and the Kinetic Energy Interceptor -- but those are still years away from being ready, he said.
"So it does give us an initial boost phase capability even though it is a much shorter range missile, and you have to be in the area of the missile launch to be effective," Lehner said.
The test Monday at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico involved an F-16 fighter that fired two modified AIM-9X missile at an Orion sounding or research rocket.
The first destroyed the rocket and the second recorded the interception, the Pentagon's missile defense agency said.
The missile seekers' relayed images of the rocket at close range, demonstrating the capability to acquire and track the target, the Pentagon's missile defense agency said.
"Although not unexpected, the subsequent intercept destroyed the target," it said.
"A second AIM-9X launched during the test observed through its seeker the intercept of the target by the first and was also on a trajectory to intercept the target," the agency said.
Besides special seekers, AIM-9X and AIM-20 AAMRAM are fitted with a new liquid propellant second stage to give it the burst of speed needed to catch a ballistic missile in its boost phase.
Lehner said the missiles were heavily instrumented during the test, but otherwise conditions were "pretty realistic."
Raytheon Missile Systems, which developed the NCADE, said it "provides a revolutionary, low-cost approach to interceptor development and acquisition."
Our RSAF is already operating F-16s and armed with similar missiles. We are also facing the potential MLRS attacks and the proliferation of ballistic missiles, therefore this Net-Centric Airborne Defense Element (NCDE) may be suitable for our use.
When this technology matures, we can modify our F-16 to fire these modified AIM-9X and AIM-20 AAMRAM missiles.
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This still rules
Satellite killer
ASM-135 test launch.
From January 1984 to September 1986, an F-15A was used as a launch platform for five ASM-135 anti-satellite (ASAT) missiles. The F-15A went into a Mach 1.22, 3.8 g climb of 65° and released the ASAT missile at an altitude of 38,100 feet (11.6 km). The F-15A computer was updated to control the zoom-climb and missile release. The third test flight involved a retired communications satellite in a 345 statute mile (555 km) orbit, which was successfully destroyed by sheer kinetic energy. The pilot, USAF Major Wilbert D. "Doug" Pearson, became the only pilot to destroy a satellite.[31][32]
The ASAT missile was designed to be a standoff anti-satellite weapon, with the F-15A acting as a first stage. The Soviet Union could interpret a U.S. rocket launch with a spy satellite loss, but an F-15 carrying an ASAT would blend in among hundreds of F-15 flights. -
Maybe he confuse them with ICBMs...Originally posted by touchstone_2000:We already have and in operational use.
Please check definition of cruise missiles before freaking out. -
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that. is not a cruise missile....
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Isn't it driven by a pusher prop?
The best defense is attack,by our cruise missiles, before they launch
[b]Officially it is UAV only.
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If you put a warhead on it, the pusher prop vehicle can be a cruise missile, a rather slow one.
Cheers,
Sunho -
That's one of the unique things that a F-15 can do.Originally posted by duotiga83:This still rules -
it is not a cruise missile...periodOriginally posted by datafuser:Isn't it driven by a pusher prop?
If you put a warhead on it, the pusher prop vehicle can be a cruise missile, a rather slow one.
Cheers,
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I wonder if we have indentified our potential aggressors.
Does any of our aggressors have weapons that would require us to use cruise missile for defence?
No point buying cruise missiles if your potential aggressors are using parangs. -
We already have that for years. When it 1st came it was a major issue of how to hide a Jlens system in a small city like singapore. In the end, someone come out the best ideal of how to hide it !!! Paint it yellow - put big DHL on it.Originally posted by beavan:any chance of getting enough to buy this?
US JLENS.JPG)
Singapore version of JLens -
Threats may be identified by what we intend to get.Originally posted by maurizio13:I wonder if we have indentified our potential aggressors.
Does any of our aggressors have weapons that would require us to use cruise missile for defence?
No point buying cruise missiles if your potential aggressors are using parangs.
Whoever said we're really threatened by the parang-ites? -
get an ICBM may or may not allow you to join the super power club, but your city can be brought to a standstill by the parang-ites driving car bombs or with bombs strapped around their bobies.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Threats may be identified by what we intend to get.
Whoever said we're really threatened by the parang-ites?
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Please lah, only someone like you would think defence policy is so one-dimensional.Originally posted by sgdiehard:get an ICBM may or may not allow you to join the super power club, but your city can be brought to a standstill by the parang-ites driving car bombs or with bombs strapped around their bobies.
get out of the classroom.
Don't know how to swim, don't say swimming trunks too big. -
Wahahahaahha!!!!!Originally posted by LazerLordz:Please lah, only someone like you would think defence policy is so one-dimensional.
Don't know how to swim, don't say swimming trunks too big. 
[/b] Oh Wow!!!!!!! ...that hurts!!!!!......WAHAhahahahaha!!!!!!1 -
hehehe...put on a fitting swimming trunks and soak in your bath tub is not swimming. Wearing a pair of boxing gloves does not make you a boxer.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Please lah, only someone like you would think defence policy is so one-dimensional.
Don't know how to swim, don't say swimming trunks too big.
Back to the topic, we acquire weapons to ensure we are superior than our enemy but we don't go around and look for a stronger or bigger enemy. -
Hmm I like this a lot!!!Originally posted by datafuser:Isn't it driven by a pusher prop?
If you put a warhead on it, the pusher prop vehicle can be a cruise missile, a rather slow one.
Cheers,
Sunho -
We don't actively seek enemies, we merely open our eyes a bit more.Originally posted by sgdiehard:hehehe...put on a fitting swimming trunks and soak in your bath tub is not swimming. Wearing a pair of boxing gloves does not make you a boxer.
Back to the topic, we acquire weapons to ensure we are superior than our enemy but we don't go around and look for a stronger or bigger enemy.
Is it harmful to think more broadly? -
Of course we see and think, but when we come to buying military equipment, we buy to tackle what we would consider the most likely enemies in the most likely scenario.Originally posted by LazerLordz:We don't actively seek enemies, we merely open our eyes a bit more.
Is it harmful to think more broadly?
Besides, it acts as a deterrent to these likely enemies. You dont' suddenly keep a few dogs, install CCTV and build barbed wire along the boundary with your neighbor and claim you are their friendly neighbor. -
You would do that if you are a realist state with a siege mentality in the upper echelons of governance. In any case, we've done that with our neighbour tons of times.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Of course we see and think, but when we come to buying military equipment, we buy to tackle what we would consider the most likely enemies in the most likely scenario.
Besides, it acts as a deterrent to these likely enemies. You dont' suddenly keep a few dogs, install CCTV and build barbed wire along the boundary with your neighbor and claim you are their friendly neighbor.
Let me offer another scenario. Will you increase your home security when you know that in another part of your HDB estate, there are troublemakers, though they do not/may not trouble you at the moment? Will you tell your neighbours and share your concerns?
Better be overprepared than underprepared. Singapore is not a liberal state, thus her actions in defence will be realist and also deterrent in nature.
You might not like it, nor will you agree with it, but MINDEF does the purchases and procurement based on what we deem as the most probable threat to our security, both realist and non-traditional lah. -
Hehehe, there are many things this government do that I donÂ’t like nor agree. But seriously I donÂ’t think they are keen to please me. Of course MINDEF purchase and procure based on what they deem as the most probable threat. But who is our most probable threat by MINDEF definition?Originally posted by LazerLordz:You would do that if you are a realist state with a siege mentality in the upper echelons of governance. In any case, we've done that with our neighbour tons of times.
Let me offer another scenario. Will you increase your home security when you know that in another part of your HDB estate, there are troublemakers, though they do not/may not trouble you at the moment? Will you tell your neighbours and share your concerns?
Better be overprepared than underprepared. Singapore is not a liberal state, thus her actions in defence will be realist and also deterrent in nature.
You might not like it, nor will you agree with it, but MINDEF does the purchases and procurement based on what we deem as the most probable threat to our security, both realist and non-traditional lah.
In your scenario, if there is a serious clash between the Indians and the Malays in the HDB estate next to yours. That should not trouble you at the moment. But, if you only tell your concerns to you Indian neighbors instead of your malay neighbors, then you are taking side already. If you even preparing pig blood against the most probable threat to your family, and if this is known, you would be turning your imaginary “most probable threat” into a real and “definite threat” even within your own HDB estate. That is real. -
Well, we won't know what is the full definition. But we can speculate by the signals given off.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Hehehe, there are many things this government do that I donÂ’t like nor agree. But seriously I donÂ’t think they are keen to please me. Of course MINDEF purchase and procure based on what they deem as the most probable threat. But who is our most probable threat by MINDEF definition?
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As for the rest, I won't get into an argument with you. -
Upon seeing these pictures, the old Starhub airship comes to my mind...any chance they are testing something with the Starhub airship then?Originally posted by storywolf:We already have that for years. When it 1st came it was a major issue of how to hide a Jlens system in a small city like singapore. In the end, someone come out the best ideal of how to hide it !!! Paint it yellow - put big DHL on it.
US JLENS
Singapore version of JLens -
Singapore is considering e Ester 30 & e S-300, from wat i know