MY nuke agenda
-
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
So, your purpose of creating this thread is .....?
3.nuke in north not a issue at all.
-
what i want
to inform ,to educate and to entertain
2.20 megawatts nuclear reactor can produce one nuke bomb a year
--the link is deadProf. Uzi Even, (a former Knesset member who worked at the Dimona nuclear reactor)
says that for research purposes only, all that is needed is a small reactor with a power of two megawatts, like the one at Nahal Soreq, which the U.S. gave to Israel in 1960....
estimates that a reactor powered by 20 megawatts can produce one nuclear bomb a year.....
[/quote]---http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/883870.html
Our fren in north seems have a plan to build a reactor of 20 megawatts .Sunday December 24, 2006
Are we ready for nuclear energy?--http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?file=/2006/12/24/lifefocus/16264142&sec=lifefocus... Malaysia hosted the 7th Forum For Nuclear Cooperation in Asia (FNCA) in the famed Teluk Cempedak beach.
3.read my lip
Being an optimist,(Science, Technology and Innovation Minister Datuk Seri Dr Jamaluddin Jarjis) Dr Jamaluddin was quick to scoff at the naysayers, arguing Malaysia needed to, akin to a Malay adage, “sediakan payung sebelum hujan.” (prepare the umbrella before it rains)
“We cannot afford to sit back and wait for our fossil fuels to deplete before taking action,” he reasoned.
Firstly, Mint has been renamed the Malaysian Nuclear Agency in a move seen as preparing the mindset of the people towards the possibility of a policy shift in the near future.
Without divulging the cost involved, Dr Jamaluddin said plans were afoot to acquire a 20(m)megawatts nuclear reactor to replace the one megawatt facility in Bangi.
The ministry will be seeking a higher allocation under the 10th Malaysia Plan to develop its nuclear energy potential.
“Within the next five to seven years, we should see some results,” he said, adding that his ministry was in the midst of bringing together 66 local scientists who are PhD holders in nuclear studies to carry out R & D work in nuclear power.
Despite these developments, Malaysia still has a long way to go as a reactor of at least 1,200 megawatts is needed to kick start power generation activities.
i dunt want to create doubt on MY.Buy the news seems very confusing.
look at the facts:
---MY said no plan to use nuke energy but use hydro energy!!
---but here u can read that they want to increase the power of
the reactor by 20 times
---in announcing to build Nuclear Monitoring Facility,MY omit
mention she has a reactor for 20 years.
4am i too sensitive?
nuke bomb is a trigger word.I dunt want to say it.
But our fren in north seems behave very odd.
What she does is different to her words!!
Pl feed me info to reduce my doubts and many question marks??
5.M'sia To Use Nuclear Power For Electricity Generation By 2020 (Bernama - 29/05/2007)
[quote]
Malaysia guna nuklear sedekad lagi (Berita Harian - 30/05/2007)
Nuklear jadi sumber tenaga elektrik menjelang 2020 (Utusan Malaysia - 30/05/2007)
Nuklear Jadi Sumber Tenaga Elektrik Menjelang 2020 (Bernama - 29/05/2007)
M'sia To Use Nuclear Power For Electricity Generation By 2020 (Bernama - 29/05/2007) -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Are you delusional? If there is a reactor accident on the scale of Chernobyl the radioactive material released will EASILY find its way to Singapore at extremely high levels.
[b]Daily press review of IAEA,19.07.2007
2.die die must stay in SG!!
our fore fathers already save so much money for us.
3.nuke in north not a issue at all.
[/b]International spread of radioactivity
If the haze from the indons burning their forests can reach Singapore, rest assured the radioactive cloud from any nuclear reactor accident will easily reach us.
A monument to the victims of the Chernobyl disaster at Moscow's Mitino cemetery, where some of the firefighters who battled the flames and later died of radiation exposure are buried.The nuclear meltdown provoked a radioactive cloud which floated over Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova, but also the European part of Croatia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Poland, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Ireland, France (including Corsica[15]) and the United Kingdom (UK).[16][17] The initial evidence that a major exhaust of radioactive material was affecting other countries came not from Soviet sources, but from Sweden, where on April 27 workers at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant (approximately 1,100 km from the Chernobyl site) were found to have radioactive particles on their clothes.[18] It was Sweden's search for the source of radioactivity, after they had determined there was no leak at the Swedish plant, which led to the first hint of a serious nuclear problem in the western Soviet Union. The rise of radiation levels had at that time already been measured in Finland but a civil service strike delayed the response and publication[19].
Contamination from the Chernobyl accident was not evenly spread across the surrounding countryside, but scattered irregularly depending on weather conditions. Reports from Soviet and Western scientists indicate that Belarus received about 60% of the contamination that fell on the former Soviet Union. However, the 2006 TORCH report stated that half of the volatile particles had landed outside Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. A large area in Russia south of Bryansk was also contaminated, as were parts of northwestern Ukraine.
In Western Europe, measures were taken including seemingly arbitrary regulations pertaining to the legality of importation of certain foods but not others. In France some officials stated that the Chernobyl accident had no adverse effects – this was ridiculed as pretending that the radioactive cloud had stopped at the German and Italian borders.
And what money our forefathers save for us? Sorry hor, can just draw money from our bank accounts and transfer somewhere else.what i want
I don't know about informing or educating... but entertaining... certainly.
to inform ,to educate and to entertain
2.20 megawatts nuclear reactor can produce one nuke bomb a year It is difficult to produce weapons-grade plutonium with a light water reactor because the reactor must be shut down frequently to replace the nuclear fuel rods, so weapons-grade plutonium is generally produced in small, specialized military reactors. However, a test of a nuclear weapon that used reactor-grade plutonium was successfully detonated, although the yield was relatively low.
You obviously know nuts about the serious infrastructure needed to develop nuclear weapons, as well as the testing and stuff that is next to impossible to hide without the Yanks or Aussies raising a fuss and making life very difficult for Malaysia in the international stage.
On the other hand, you seem to think your ability to copy and paste from google gives you superior intelligence gathering ability then the CIA.
Here, let me inform and educate you: learn better english and get some common sense.
And even if you are right and Malaysia is creating a bomb to use on anybody that annoys it... you are giving people a very good reason indeed NOT to stay in Singapore.
Indeed, if Malaysia was looking from WMD, the other options of biological and chemical warfare are far easier to develop and keep hidden, not to mention cheaper.
Sorry, but I, and most reasonable people prefer CNN, BBC, or even wikipedia to remain educated or informed, but you are very welcome to entertain us.
Are you not shooting yourself in the foot with all your posts? 
Might as well say Singapore has a secret biological warfare agenda from biopolis and all the drive for the life sciences.
Are you no different from the paranoid people up north who jumps at every move Singapore makes?
Sorry, but your "patriotism" is so poorly expressed, blotched and funny, it's not even achieving the purpose you set your threads out to do... -
Nuclear monitoring? They trying to emulate America?
Dont be silly. They will launch a pre-emptive strike ala Iraq to disable our weapons of mass destruction. They will then set up a proxy government to make sure the pesky Singaporeans do not resort to using WMDs again or at least make them look bad by having more expensive toys.
What if they say we have WMDS..... -_-
On a more serious note, it will take more than a handful of scientists to set up a nuclear plant safely. Let alone walk down the route of having weapons. Even the Pakistanis and Iranians need outside help. These things take many many decades. And I certainly doubt that the west will tolerate another muslim country getting the nuke. As always, you get all kinds of cheap talk all around us from reporters who ought to know better.
Large Hydro dams are not such a good idea. The Taiwanese can easily target the 3 gorges dam and I think flood an area larger than East Malaysia. -
uh...
Might as well say Singapore has a secret biological warfare agenda from biopolis and all the drive for the life sciences.
ANYWAYS. I'm more concerned about their ability to prevent meltdowns and me having to move away to avoid 2 headed kids. -
before lionisy shheet in his pant with the WMD mumbo jumbo..i would like to educate people on what is the PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor that malaysia had.
PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor (RTP) is the only nuclear research reactor in Malaysia. It came into operation in 1982 and reached its first criticality on 28 June 1982. TRIGA stands for Training, Research, Isotope Production and General Atomic.
RTP is a pool type reactor, designed to effectively implement the various fields of basic nuclear science and education. It incorporates facilities for advanced neutron and gamma radiation studies as well as for application, including Neutron Activation Analysis (NAA), Delayed Neutron Activation Analysis (DNA), radioisotope production for medical, industrial and agricultural purposes, Neutron Radiography (NR) and Small Angle Neutron Scattering (SANS).Several experimental facilities are available in the reactor:
so you guys want me to list what else the malaysian got? i dont know if its a good idea...lionisy already freak out on the PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor ...
Rotary Specimen Rack Facilty is used for activation analysis and isotope production (e.g. Iridium-192 for industry, Phosphorus-32 for agriculture, Iodine-131, Samarium-153 as radiotherapy agents).
Pneumatic Transfer System for the production of very short-lived radioisotopes.
Central Thimble in the center of the core provides space for the irradiation of samples at the point of maximum flux.
Beam Port Facilities provide tubular penetrations through concrete shield and the reactor tank water, making beams of neutron and gamma radiation available for a variety of purposes like NR and SANS.
oh what the hell...
please note that all facilities listed here are connected directly or indirectly with the reactor.
1. PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor
2. MINTec-Sinagama Irradiation Facility
3. ALURTRON-Electron Beam Processing Service Centre
4. RAYMINTEX Plant
5. STERIFEED Plant
6. Thermal and Renewable Energy Engineering
7. Radioactive Waste Management Centre
8. Secondary Standard Dosimetry Laboratory
9. Analytical Chemistry Laboratory
10.Non-Destructive Testing Laboratory
11. Non-Ionising Radiation Laboratory
12. Environmental Laboratory
13. Tissue Bank and Bioproduct Laboratory
14. Radioisotope Production Laboratory
15. Flora Centre -
2.To summarize,MY has been using nuke facilities forOriginally posted by tankfanatic:before lionisy shheet in his pant with the WMD mumbo jumbo..i would like to educate people on what is the PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor that malaysia had.
so you guys want me to list what else the malaysian got? i dont know if its a good idea...lionisy already freak out on the PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor ...
oh what the hell...
please note that all facilities listed here are connected directly or indirectly with the reactor.
1. PUSPATI TRIGA Reactor
2. MINTec-Sinagama Irradiation Facility
3. ALURTRON-Electron Beam Processing Service Centre
4. RAYMINTEX Plant
.......
15. Flora Centre
peace purposes for many years and she shall continue
to do so.Cheers.The i can sleep peacefully to nite loh..
Good nite!! -
tok so much rubbish just to say this in the endOriginally posted by lionnoisy:2.To summarize,MY has been using nuke facilities for
peace purposes for many years and she shall continue
to do so.Cheers.The i can sleep peacefully to nite loh..
Good nite!! -
LOL, wow suddenly after suggesting nuclear bombs in the region he's doing a 180 turn and running away.Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.To summarize,MY has been using nuke facilities for
peace purposes for many years and she shall continue
to do so.Cheers.The i can sleep peacefully to nite loh..
Good nite!! -
who turn 180 degree?
Pl read my postings here.
M'sia To Use Nuclear Power For Electricity Generation By 2020 (Bernama - 29/05/2007)
BUT....
July 17, 2007 22:52 PM
Hydro Still Malaysia's Main Source Of Energy - Najib===General
quote:KUALA LUMPUR, July 17 (Bernama) -- Hydro power is still Malaysia's main source of energy and the country has no plans to use nuclear as a source of energy,- Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said today.(FYI,hydro currently provide 7 % of energy)
2.tell me what is MY real agenda---build or not build nuke plant?
Why they increase reactor by 20 times power?
Why MY never mention she has reactor when she announce to build monitoring facility?
.
3.today newspaper reports Indonesia ask Korea firm to build
nuke plant.Nuke is not dirty.
But hide and seek is. -
they plan to use nuclear power when the hydro at Bakun face stiff oposition from enviromentalist ...then the bakun project been resize to reduce the impact on the environment..so the nuke power plant project were shelved for the time being.. thats about it..
sleep tight my little lion.... -
LOL, I read your postings....Originally posted by lionnoisy:who turn 180 degree?
Pl read my postings here.
2.tell me what is MY real agenda---build or not build nuke plant?
Why they increase reactor by 20 times power?
Why MY never mention she has reactor when she announce to build monitoring facility?
.
3.today newspaper reports Indonesia ask Korea firm to build
nuke plant.Nuke is not dirty.
But hide and seek is.
It's either you english is so bad that you cannot express yourself properly, or that you CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN ENGLISH!
Lol, what agenda are you talking about? To go nuclear power or not is still something they are deciding about... there is nothing remarkable about it UNLESS YOU are suggesting they have other ideas for nuclear energy, as you have tried to sneak in but are now trying to deny:
Here, let me quote you:
4am i too sensitive?
nuke bomb is a trigger word.I dunt want to say it.
But our fren in north seems behave very odd.
What she does is different to her words!!what i want
Malaysia is not playing Hide and Seek, this is called politics and making decisions, something you canÂ’t seem to understand that think that everything must be iron-clad for you to understand in the first place, but only end up making you look like quite a fool.
to inform ,to educate and to entertain
2.20 megawatts nuclear reactor can produce one nuke bomb a year
And what's more, all the stuff can be easily found if you just bothered to do some basic searching... nothing in there is really secret or hide-and-seek. Building a reactor in secret is hide and seek, having one on the internet for all the find is not. You seem to think only things that are talked about in the news exist.
LOL, why don't your post is as useless and silly as starting a topic like "Sg Casino agenda" and asking and doubting about our agenda when we were wondering if we should build the IRs.
Really, you are making us laughÂ… could you stop pwning yourself for even one second? -
WTF !!!!
Make me go thru 2 pages of craps,only to find out it is much ado about nothing !!!
Comon Lionnoisy, hope you can do better than this.
-
Exactly, this dude posts multiple posts attempting to express his "confusion" about the Malaysian energy agenda only to demostrate his own lack of common sense and general ignorance on subject matter.Originally posted by miserable:WTF !!!!
Make me go thru 2 pages of craps,only to find out it is much ado about nothing !!!
Comon Lionnoisy, hope you can do better than this.
The funniest thing is that now he's trying to backtrack on what he has said, and pwning himself even more by giving excuses of being "confused" for the simple reason he didn't bother to do his homework before posting.
Really, this guy is comedy, and this is truly a useless thread... except to see lionnoisy get pwned.
Remember lionnoisy cannot inform or educate with his posts, but he can certianly entertain! -
wtf lah, if malaysia is to build a nuclear plant, then we build one also lor, you know how kiasu is our government mah
-
LOL, when that happens, you will see lionnoisy going to great lengths and pulling amazing deductions and "facts" from thin air to convince us that it's all safe and good.Originally posted by allentyb:wtf lah, if malaysia is to build a nuclear plant, then we build one also lor, you know how kiasu is our government mah -
I hate this. They will have a nuke missile eventually and threaten us!!!!!!
Long live the lion city!!Which is unlikely..... -
If our leaders were as senseless and noisy as lionnoisy, then indeed, Singapore does not have long to live.Originally posted by crusader91:I hate this. They will have a nuke missile eventually and threaten us!!!!!!
Long live the lion city!!Which is unlikely..... -
Originally posted by miserable:
Only the Chinese and (maybe) dialect speaking will understand this video lah! the main essence of it is lost if you don't see the subtle things.
Fear not ...... The moron can say anything, still an A+ for his trend.
Btw check out this youtube video, let our Malaysian counterpart speaks. This will help you to relax and not so be a paranoid.
[b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTqsSoV1SQ[/b]