there is nothing to feel dread about this. If you are standing at the other side lookin at SG, from a strategic perspective this deployment is necessary reaction.Originally posted by CM06:Chino's right.
Now, if the TS posted those pictures...did he take those IN JOHOR?
If they are...i feel a sense of dread.....
On the side i m sure there is no problems. on the frontal section armour looks thick.Originally posted by Shotgun:Matador ah... If can hit it, it will toast it. =)
The effects of it will be even more "happening" due to its light armor. I don't think any of the crew will get out alive.
yes the original metal was actually WWI and German melt the metal and recast to Panzer and it was left over in the Pole after WWII and they convert it to what is it today.Originally posted by ninefold9:Could these be 2nd World War tanks which Poland was trying hard to dispose off with huge discount offers.
At one time M'sia was expressing interest in acquiring them but citing lack of fund. They even talked about paying through installments and supplementing the deal with vast supplies of M'sia's palm oil.
If indeed these are World World II tanks, there is a possibility that they were built with Russian technology. The weaponry technology is out-dated for use today. Furthermore, they were meant for cold climatic European countries - O Kay for cold countries like Poland but not hot tropical countries in S.E. Asia.
Bringing them over to M'sia, the military engineers may need to come out with a solution to install cool air-conditioning system, or else soldiers inside the tanks will be barbequed to death. Mitsui air-cond system from Protons can be considered.
In cutting down costs, some wise nuts might consider reconfiguring the system in such a way that cheap palm oil can be used in place of the more expensive high grade petrol to power the tanks. After all M'sia is known as one of the world's biggest exporters of palm oil.
Hopefully these tanks will not leak in water, like those in which ex-president Habibe purchased out-dated World War II tanks from Germany. On its maiden journey to Indonesia some of these tanks leaked in water and reportedly sunk into oceans.
Be sure that these tanks won't end up as museum pieces
Could these be 2nd World War tanks which Poland was trying hard to dispose off with huge discount offers.i almost call this guy bodoh.... but i wont.. it is funny.
At one time M'sia was expressing interest in acquiring them but citing lack of fund. They even talked about paying through installments and supplementing the deal with vast supplies of M'sia's palm oil.
If indeed these are World World II tanks, there is a possibility that they were built with Russian technology. The weaponry technology is out-dated for use today. Furthermore, they were meant for cold climatic European countries - O Kay for cold countries like Poland but not hot tropical countries in S.E. Asia.
Bringing them over to M'sia, the military engineers may need to come out with a solution to install cool air-conditioning system, or else soldiers inside the tanks will be barbequed to death. Mitsui air-cond system from Protons can be considered.
In cutting down costs, some wise nuts might consider reconfiguring the system in such a way that cheap palm oil can be used in place of the more expensive high grade petrol to power the tanks. After all M'sia is known as one of the world's biggest exporters of palm oil.
Hopefully these tanks will not leak in water, like those in which ex-president Habibe purchased out-dated World War II tanks from Germany. On its maiden journey to Indonesia some of these tanks leaked in water and reportedly sunk into oceans.
Be sure that these tanks won't end up as museum pieces
The development of 3rd Division into a full fledge Combined Arms Division is still in progress. When completed, this division will comprise of an armored brigade (1st Brigade), a mechanized infantry brigade (4th Brigade) and a motorized infantry brigade (7th Brigade). The final composition of 1st Armored Brigade are 2 tank regiments and a mechanized battalion. A tank regiment, 11th KAD, has been designated and waiting to be equipped with PT-91M Main Battle Tank from Poland due to arrive in 2007 would form the basis of the Armored Brigade.
Not very lar. Nothing the matador or even the RPG can't get thru.Originally posted by Arapahoe:On the side i m sure there is no problems. on the frontal section armour looks thick.
List of variants + numbers - kudos to you for that great work!!- thanks for that very informative-Originally posted by tankfanatic:any way that thing were not called AFV but ACV. And no..its got nothing to do with IFV either.
this thing is to fullfill the combine arm division that they were transformed in to right now. Its for the mechanized and motorized brigade.That's not a combined arms division.
The development of 3rd Division into a full fledge Combined Arms Division is still in progress. When completed, this division will comprise of an armored brigade (1st Brigade), a mechanized infantry brigade (4th Brigade) and a motorized infantry brigade (7th Brigade). The final composition of 1st Armored Brigade are 2 tank regiments and a mechanized battalion. A tank regiment, 11th KAD, has been designated and waiting to be equipped with PT-91M Main Battle Tank from Poland due to arrive in 2007 would form the basis of the Armored Brigade.
rest assured........i do believe there's considerable planning and preparation in place for any eventualities during our ND....Originally posted by I_love_my_toilet:i will be proud if i can be activated when a red soldier is flashed on tv
coz NDP is nearing
alot of pattern showing
hopefully a division size force can be activated at least
RAWRS
Ah yess.. .the only time when you draw live ammo its "Take first, worry about paperwork later."Originally posted by FireAndHell:rest assured........i do believe there's considerable planning and preparation in place for any eventualities during our ND....
has this happened before?Originally posted by Shotgun:Ah yess.. .the only time when you draw live ammo its "Take first, worry about paperwork later."
Operation Malindo, August 1991.Originally posted by beavan:has this happened before?
I can take any word you hurl at me; won't lose any sleep over it.Originally posted by tankfanatic:i almost call this guy bodoh.... but i wont.. it is funny.
Do you think the Apache attack helicopters are capable of wiping them out?Originally posted by Arapahoe:there is nothing to feel dread about this. If you are standing at the other side lookin at SG, from a strategic perspective this deployment is necessary reaction.
U probably have to do more standby.
List of variants + numbers - kudos to you for that great work!!- thanks for that very informative-lol its all over the net. but thanks
That's not a combined arms division.i meant in the process becoming a full fledge CAD the AC 300 were one of the requirements. They also in the process of implementing BMS... right now their tankee are waiting for the PT91 so that all will fill up. But even the PT91M main purpose is to create a nukleaus of officers and tankee so that in the future these man could train and redesign the MAF armoured doctrine. So i guess rigt now no one should be worry much about the MAF CAD.
It's a Light Armour Division to me.
In this part of the World. It's counts as an Armoured Division alright.....
HMMMMMM i smell smoke......
The news concerning M'sia negotiating with Poland over the acquisition of World World II tanks, took place towards the end of Mahattir's tenure as PM.so what ww2 tank that poland have to offer? T34? hoW the hek ww2 tank looks like an upgraded M113?
The news about the acquistion of tanks was featured on tv news reel (tv 1) as well in the English language newspapers. I am not kidding.bullshiit
The out-dated Germans tanks which Habibe purchased and reportedly sunk was a big issue in Indonesia and reported all over S.E Asia. Not kidding about it.Habibie is an indonesian.......not malaysian...what german tank? .......AND WHAT TANK SUNK!!!!!!
Apparently you have not read my earlier post carefully but chose to jump in blindly and answered hastily.Originally posted by tankfanatic:Habibie is an indonesian.......not malaysian...what german tank? .......AND WHAT TANK SUNK!!!!!!