M'sia's Secret Submarine Deal Conspiracy?
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It was on the New paper's front page 2 days ago.
Apparently, it mentioned that the death of the Mongolian Girl (the one that was shot then blown up) was somehow tied in with the "Secret" Submarine Deal with France for the Scorpene and Agosta submarines.
Any one heard any rumors on that "conspiracy" theory and can post up here? -
spook stories? the one thing that really puzzle is that why choose to blow up the body? I mean u would think they can burried 6 ft under.Originally posted by Shotgun:It was on the New paper's front page 2 days ago.
Apparently, it mentioned that the death of the Mongolian Girl (the one that was shot then blown up) was somehow tied in with the "Secret" Submarine Deal with France for the Scorpene and Agosta submarines.
Any one heard any rumors on that "conspiracy" theory and can post up here? -
Obviously I think itÂ’s politically motivated. I mean the blow-up-a-charming-lady accident itself got no direct link with political incident like the submarine scandal if any. But maybe both the possible submarine scandal and blow-up the lady share a common link, thatÂ’s the repute defense analyst now under the murder charge. This guy may well link to some arm scandals that are not convenient to come into light.
If the authority like, it could cover the whole blow up affair easily in the 1st place. But it didn’t, I mean it could be like this: somehow Pak Lai decided to teach old “power fraction” by exposure of some criminal wrongdoings committed by some key member of that targeted “power fraction”. By doing this, the newly come into power political fraction can teach the legacy power “a lesson” to remind who is in command. No surprise to see some twist from the “old power fraction”, the court on this murder charge was even delayed.
This tactic never sound unfamiliar, think about a kidney foundation in one Island nation, if not the dynast change, we wonÂ’t know the how lavish those foundation corruptors are. -
It is rumoured that since this unfortunate Mongolian lady is a translator and went on these defence related trips...she knew too much about the under the table dealings and thus have to be silenced...
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lol..actually the case is about this one razak who cant control his diick when going over sea...typical urban domestic problem...what makes it interestin is that razak is quite famous
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that mongol girl was a kept woman for a higher up. She threatened to spill some secrets which the higher up then decided she should be killed. But the idiotic 'assasins' went a little overboard with the use of explosives. Morons..now the public know who killed her as those explosives are only available from the military.
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But any conspiracy theories that delved more into the Submarine deal?
It also occured to me, that the M'sians having dealt with the French before, have yet to have their own French-translator on staff? And why of all places, ask a girl from Mongolia to translate for them? Personally, I think there are doubts cast on whether she really was a French translator for the Submarine deal. -
It was an xxx-tra marital relationship gone bad .The only submariner involved is Razak's dick.Somwhow they would find a loophole to save his sorry ass.As to why they used grenades instead of making her disappear I could only think of a 5 letter word........BODOH! In Malaysia nothing is smart enough to manifest into a conspiracy.
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few may believe TNP lah.So i quote some foreign
medias which CSJ loved vy much.oh it is old news....
But can she speak French?....
Politics shadows murder trial in Malaysia,By Thomas Fuller,Published: June 1, 2007
---http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/01/asia/malaysia.phpKUALA LUMPUR: Since November, when the charred remains of a jet-setting young Mongolian were discovered in a patch of jungle outside this modern capital, her mysterious murder has captivated the political elite here, not least because prosecutors say she was killed by commandos assigned to the second most powerful man in the country, Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak.
2.Murder trial linked to fight to rule Malaysia,
With the trial set to begin Monday, Malaysians hope a basic but still elusive question will be answered: who was behind the murder in October of Altantuya Shaariibuu, 28, and why?
The trial is perhaps the most high-profile case in Malaysia since Anwar Ibrahim, the former deputy prime minister, was charged with sodomy and corruption almost a decade ago, and was beaten by the chief of police while in detention.
Like the Anwar trial, the inquiry into Shaariibuu's murder has raised questions about the transparency and thoroughness of this country's judicial system and about the practices of the Malaysian police. One of the bodyguards charged with murdering Shaariibuu bragged that he had killed "between 6 and 10 people," according to an affidavit submitted in a pre-trial hearing.
Three men have been charged in the case: the two bodyguards and Abdul Razak Baginda, an adviser to the deputy prime minister, who is accused of aiding and abetting the killing of Shaariibuu, who he says was his mistress. They face death by hanging if convicted.
Shaariibuu was a part-time model who spoke English, Russian and Mandarin, according to local media reports. She was shot and her body destroyed with explosives, the police say. Malaysians have speculated for months as to whether her murder was the result of a lover's quarrel or part of a more sinister and far-reaching cover-up involving high-level government officials.
"We are interested to know whether there is any political link to the murder," said Zulkifli Noordin, a lawyer representing Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri, one of the bodyguards. "Why were all the people involved linked to No. 2?" he asked, referring to Najib.
Zulkifli said he would explore Shaariibuu's role in the purchase of French submarines by Malaysia in 2002.
"She may have been involved as the interpreter in the arms deal between the French company and the Defense Ministry," Zulkifli said. "We want to see whether there are any links."
Zulkifli also plans to call Najib to the stand to inquire about meetings the deputy prime minister held with his client, he said.
One defense lawyer is skeptical that the court will explore possible motives for the murder.
"Motive is a very interesting question," said Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin, a lawyer representing the other bodyguard charged, Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar. "But it is irrelevant here if they have physical evidence that three people have done it."
Prosecutors, Kamarul predicts, will focus narrowly on the actual killing. Under Malaysian law, which resembles British or American legal tradition on this point, prosecutors need not show motive to get a conviction.
"It may be a trial where everything is said and done but nothing is answered," Kamarul said.
Outside the courtroom, some analysts here see the case as a proxy battle for Malaysia's top political job, currently held by Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. It is likely to stoke a long-standing rivalry between Najib, who as deputy prime minister is the heir apparent to the job of prime minister, and Anwar, the former deputy prime minister who was released from prison in 2004 and is seeking to make a political comeback.
More than anyone in Malaysia, Anwar has publicly urged a broader investigation into the purchase of the French submarines, allegations of kickbacks in that deal and the role that Shaariibuu may have played.
"The issue is who gave the instructions?" Anwar said in an interview this year. "If the instructions to the commandos were to finish off this girl and any traces because she was a threat to national security, what then is the status of the murder?"
Anwar says he is skeptical that the police can conduct a fair investigation into a killing that involves Najib's bodyguards. He called for an independent inquiry.
"There's a political damage exercise here," said Sankara Nair, a Malaysian lawyer not involved with the trial. "Anwar is throwing a small political bomb into Najib's camp."
Anwar's most forceful allegation is that the deputy prime minister's bodyguards, some of whom are members of a special commando force, only act on orders from the top.
"Their duty is like the Secret Service - to protect," Anwar said. "That's why questions must be raised."...
· Case begins after model shot dead and blown up
· Deputy prime minister connected to accused
Ian MacKinnon, south-east Asia correspondent
Monday June 18, 2007,The Guardian --http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2105314,00.html...Malaysia's prime minister, Abdullah Badawi, has pledged no cover-up. Mr Anwar has questioned the French sale of submarines to Malaysia in 2002, urging a probe into the 530m ringgit (£78m) commission paid to a company said to be linked to Mr Abdul Razak. Shaariibuu may have acted as a translator in the negotiations.