Leopard 2A4 MBT in town
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First of SAF's new tanks here
NEW heavyweight is in town. The first of 66 German Leopard 2A4 tanks has arrived here to be put through its paces before being inducted into the army's arsenal.
The main battle tank, spotted by The Straits Times close to the Safti live firing area last week, is here for 'local familiarisation trials', the Ministry of Defence said this week.
Mindef announced in December last year that it planned to buy 66 refurbished Leopard 2A4s and push them into service around the middle of next year.
They will replace some of the Singapore Armed Forces' (SAF) SM1 light tanks, which are more than 40 years old.
The Leopard, about three times heavier than the SM1, packs a mighty punch.
It tips the scale at 55 tonnes, but is powerful enough to roar down highways at 72kmh and gun down targets 3km away.
Its main weapon is the German Rheinmetall L44 120mm gun, which also arms tanks fielded by countries such as Australia and the United States.
About 3,000 of these battlefield heavyweights are now in service in about 12 countries.
When they enter service here, the Leopard 2A4s will be fitted with a new battlefield management system that will allow tank crews to exchange information with other SAF units to hunt and destroy enemy forces highlighted on a digital map.
The German Leopard 2A4 tanks (above) will replace some of the Singapore Armed Forces' (SAF) SM1 light tanks, which are more than 40 years old. -- KENNETH YEO
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still painted in the olive drap color...yucks
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What you expecting? Yellow and black stripes?Originally posted by CenturionMBT:still painted in the olive drap color...yucks
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Well if you look carefully , it seem that the camo is still German standard, I can see some brown and black.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:still painted in the olive drap color...yucks
Anyway, this could be the one where DSTA will use it for all the mod needed. -
What kind of mods? Stealth technology that will make your tank look like a tree when stationary?
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Note the legend. It's a file pic provided by Krauss.Originally posted by gary1910:Well if you look carefully , it seem that the camo is still German standard, I can see some brown and black.
Anyway, this could be the one where DSTA will use it for all the mod needed. -
LL, the pic from ST is taken in SG.( I think Kenneth Yeo is the photographer)Originally posted by LazerLordz:Note the legend. It's a file pic provided by Krauss.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+News/Singapore/STIStory_126889.html
And the similar pic ( I think the same one, just that one is cropped) that is in the hardcopy of ST specifically stated that it was taken in SAFTI live firing area. -
I know, but the MINDEF one isn't. Right?Originally posted by gary1910:LL, the pic from ST is taken in SG.( I think Kenneth Yeo is the photographer)
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+News/Singapore/STIStory_126889.html
And the similar pic ( I think the same one, just that one is cropped) that is in the hardcopy of ST specifically stated that it was taken in SAFTI live firing area.
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i hope my battalion gets this soon. then the poor tankees will have to retrain lol
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Not only that, it will transform into a 12.5m walker with twin plasma phase cannons that will vapourise anything in the world.Originally posted by ditzy:What kind of mods? Stealth technology that will make your tank look like a tree when stationary?
Why 12.5m walker ?
Well, the plasma phase cannons is a LOS weapon, theoretically it has infinite range and velocity at the speed of light, but to maximise the effective range , the taller the Transformed Leo 2, the higher the effective range of the plasma phase cannons.
So far , it was tested up to 15km, but the theoretically effective range is abt 20km!!!!
But if the Transformed Leo 2( nicknamed as Annihilator) is on top of a 100m hill , the range will significantly increase!!!
Use this verfiy the range :
http://radarproblems.com/calculators/horizon.htm
Input the H2 as 2.19m( the height of a T-72) and H1 as 12.5m and you will get your answer.
OK above is all TCSS!!! -
I going reservist next month, I see what I can find in the garage.
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"They will replace some of the Singapore Armed Forces' (SAF) SM1 light tanks, which are more than 40 years old. "
Meaning the SM1 will soldier on. A public show of smelting a couple of condemn SM1 chassis just to give the impression that we are keeping numbers low. -
lolOriginally posted by ditzy:I going reservist next month, I see what I can find in the garage.
i dun u have the time
by 1st day u have to take over veh and ovm
mount signal set and prep for day n night orientation
2nd day crew n weap drill revision
Lagger by 2nd night
ARMOR ROX
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ya.. don't remind me abt this....Originally posted by I_love_my_toilet:lol
i dun u have the time
by 1st day u have to take over veh and ovm
mount signal set and prep for day n night orientation
2nd day crew n weap drill revision
Lagger by 2nd night
ARMOR ROX
my ICT kena ATEC stage 2... -
i hope is india for uOriginally posted by saline:ya.. don't remind me abt this....
my first ICT kena ATEC stage 2... next year jan....
hahahhaa
taj mahal ROX !!! -
I am curious. Why do they need to trial the vehicle? Didn't they at least trial the vehicle before hand? Or did politics come into play?
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I'm actually pretty surprised that they came so early. Always thought military equiptment only comes like 2-3 years after ordering. Most definately didn't expect for them to come after 6 months.
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Me 2
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these are not new builts ... but surplus stocks ... so of course they'll be quick ... -
Maybe this has something to do with PT-91 arriving in MY.Originally posted by fallin:I'm actually pretty surprised that they came so early. Always thought military equiptment only comes like 2-3 years after ordering. Most definately didn't expect for them to come after 6 months.
The MAF Su-30 are here. The PT-91 are here. Never mind they are not operational yet. But lately they seem to have a lot of military happenings.
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maybe the test is for the BMS.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:I am curious. Why do they need to trial the vehicle? Didn't they at least trial the vehicle before hand? Or did politics come into play?
the Leopard 2A4s will be fitted with a new battlefield management system that will allow tank crews to exchange information with other SAF units to hunt and destroy enemy forces highlighted on a digital map. -
Possibly.Originally posted by Arapahoe:maybe the test is for the BMS.
the Leopard 2A4s will be fitted with a new battlefield management system that will allow tank crews to exchange information with other SAF units to hunt and destroy enemy forces highlighted on a digital map.
I hope they would try upgrading the A4s to A5 standard at least in terms of electronics. Or perhaps unannounced. I remember reading somewhere some A4s were upgraded to A5 standard including the appliqué armour. -
They are here means the few things liaoz...alot of $$$ paid upfront
1) From moment deal -decided- we arrange to send people(regular) there to train in maintainence, driving, doctrine
2) From the moment deal announced and finalised, we pay $$ upfront and prepare to choose the vehicles.
3) Immediate arrangement of transport shipping back to our country. <--this takes several months at least.
Now, it's here, we have trained people here to look after the Leos and we are testing if the tank works here well.
By the way, the small photo of the Leos 2 look like a camera phone pic leh. The reporter still say he took it -IN- SAFTI MI training area. Very hard to believe. Leo2s confirm dont go there. It's the training area from SGdng. Someone took a handphone picture lar. SIB coming to catch you!! -
Hanor, looks more like murai open patch to me. Or maybe the straits times reporter happened to wander into the training area on the basis of catching commando mosquitoes. Murai open patch has an abundance of them right after the sun goes down. The mosquitoes there are so fierce and unafraid, they smack right into your faces in a suicide attempt.
