Captain promotion to Major (how many year will it take)?
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Captain promotion to Major (how many year will it take)?
how many years will it take on AVERAGE will a Captain be promoted to Major in Singapore,
-who has an average performance, and
-has a 2nd class lower honour degree..
-his parent (not high profile personnel)
-able to pass ippt
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2 - 4 yrs.
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1 to 2 if he is very good at handling relationship with peers and bosses..
4 to 8 if he is unlucky and all his credit stolen from him right under is nose by his peers or bosses...
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I ever asked my captain friend before and he told me it's about 5-6 years on average.
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i asked before.. the guy said it depends on how well you ankat bola
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Orrrr.....carry balls.......Originally posted by the Bear:i asked before.. the guy said it depends on how well you ankat bola -
i also think that it depend at the time of your promotion any SAF scholar in line for promotion than the unlucky ones get push over for the next batch of evaluation.
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Depends on how fast he finishes his staff tour, OC/Sect Head and his PSO tour.
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its sad that results r taken too much into consideration in singapore....most of the time it shows that u r just a nerd.
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you reservist or regular?Originally posted by peychinhwee:Captain promotion to Major (how many year will it take)?
how many years will it take on AVERAGE will a Captain be promoted to Major in Singapore,
-who has an average performance, and
-has a 2nd class lower honour degree..
-his parent (not high profile personnel)
-able to pass ippt
Thank you -
There is a good reason why the next rank above Captain isn't a fourth bar but a "crab".
From Captain to Major is a big jump. Once you're among the "crabs" you are with the big boys.
Many never get there and remain "hentak-kaki" Captains until retirement.
Many Captains slated for promotion get moved into a position where the estab rank of that position allow their promotion to be Major.
Positions like infantry Bn Cmdrs. Brigade Staff like S1, 2, 3 or 4 (collectively known as the "a.ssess" ). Officers holding these positions can be Captains or Majors.
The Brigade S2 and S3 depts, for example, are more likely to have Majors or Captains about to become Majors - as their roles are more important than that of the S1 and S4, which are more of a supportive role and may be required to take orders from the S2 or S3.
In the Brigade HQ where I served my NS the S1 and S4 were "hentak-kaki" Captains well into their 40's. They look destined to serve out their contract as Captains.
The Bde Cmd in the Brigade where I served - a LTC - treated the S2 (Cpt) and S3 (Maj) as his colleagues, almost equals. But he let it be known the S1 amd S4 (both Cpt), are mere sideshows. The S1 got on better cos he know how to "sebok" the LTC.
During one night HQ convoy movement, the Bde Cmd shouted at the S4: "S4! What the fcuk do you think you are doing?!" in front of all us lowly impressionable NSFs. No easy ride.
For some positions, Captains may be required to attend courses at SCSC - Singapore Command and Staff College (otherwise known as "Some Can Some Cannot" ) to get further. That's how my Brigade S2 Captain got his "crab" when I met him again during my reservist. By then, he was G2 - a Int. Officer at Division level, which means he will again be open for his second "crab" if he doesn't screw up. He could probably stay at G2 or could mean he might need to take up another position like Bde Cmd to get his next "crab"... dunno. Beyond Brgade level I have no idea.
I was attached to SCSC for a couple of weeks to helpout with the "undergrads" doing a MAPEX.
There were officers from the Air Force as well, and a few foreigners from ASEAN attending. If I remember correctly Thailand, Indo and Philippines - all overweight. The ribbons and "bottlecaps" decorating their uniforms make our SAF officers in their plain No. 3 look like civilians. -
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More over, regarding security issues, Majors require a different level of clearance.
Majors are the *smallest* rank you can get for multi-role officer ie can put in any position kinda. As such the promotion from captain has alot of requirements and yes..kissass is needed...either that OR you show you sibei garang. -
You want to get promoted fast? You must "chiong.............." all the way. Go to Afghanistan, Iraq or any of world's hotbed where the SAF contributes an effort. SAF cannot always send the same captain. They must promote him for his "beh kia si" attitude and to look good amongst the foreign military peers. Cannot promote on education qualification, try "beh kia si" qualification.
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Prominent positions like these peace keeping etc are reserved for "Blue-eyed Boys" anyway. They don't just send anyone. If you are sent, it already means you are slated for promotion.
Can anyone remember the cable-car rescue in Keppel/Sentosa when a oil rig snagged the cables? Can you remember who was the certain Colonel CO of that rescue effort?
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You have to attend some course at CSC before promotion.
But on a fast track, it is possible for a captain after 2 positions, one on the field, and one on the desk, to obtain permission to attend the course and go on to MAJ.
Of course, the 28year old LTC obviously rose the fastest. -
Very good observation and if you notice there are no oustanding officers who would become S1s or S4s but usually the angkat bodek arrow king type.BTW did you serve in the 7th Brigade? Dont need to answer if you dont feel comfortable.Originally posted by moca:There is a good reason why the next rank above Captain isn't a fourth bar but a "crab".
From Captain to Major is a big jump. Once you're among the "crabs" you are with the big boys.
Many never get there and remain "hentak-kaki" Captains until retirement.
Many Captains slated for promotion get moved into a position where the estab rank of that position allow their promotion to be Major.
Positions like infantry Bn Cmdrs. Brigade Staff like S1, 2, 3 or 4 (collectively known as the "a.ssess" ). Officers holding these positions can be Captains or Majors.
The Brigade S2 and S3 depts, for example, are more likely to have Majors or Captains about to become Majors - as their roles are more important than that of the S1 and S4, which are more of a supportive role and may be required to take orders from the S2 or S3.
In the Brigade HQ where I served my NS the S1 and S4 were "hentak-kaki" Captains well into their 40's. They look destined to serve out their contract as Captains.
The Bde Cmd in the Brigade where I served - a LTC - treated the S2 (Cpt) and S3 (Maj) as his colleagues, almost equals. But he let it be known the S1 amd S4 (both Cpt), are mere sideshows. The S1 got on better cos he know how to "sebok" the LTC.
During one night HQ convoy movement, the Bde Cmd shouted at the S4: "S4! What the fcuk do you think you are doing?!" in front of all us lowly impressionable NSFs. No easy ride.
For some positions, Captains may be required to attend courses at SCSC - Singapore Command and Staff College (otherwise known as "Some Can Some Cannot" ) to get further. That's how my Brigade S2 Captain got his "crab" when I met him again during my reservist. By then, he was G2 - a Int. Officer at Division level, which means he will again be open for his second "crab" if he doesn't screw up. He could probably stay at G2 or could mean he might need to take up another position like Bde Cmd to get his next "crab"... dunno. Beyond Brgade level I have no idea.
I was attached to SCSC for a couple of weeks to helpout with the "undergrads" doing a MAPEX.
There were officers from the Air Force as well, and a few foreigners from ASEAN attending. If I remember correctly Thailand, Indo and Philippines - all overweight. The ribbons and "bottlecaps" decorating their uniforms make our SAF officers in their plain No. 3 look like civilians. -
Sorry, can't tell you my unit. This makes it easier for me later on to tell stories about the people I met during my service without incriminating anyone.Originally posted by Short Ninja:Very good observation and if you notice there are no oustanding officers who would become S1s or S4s but usually the angkat bodek arrow king type.BTW did you serve in the 7th Brigade? Dont need to answer if you dont feel comfortable.
So, you from Brigade, too? What department?
During reservist, I got knocked down to Bn HQ, and then after that got 'knocked down" somemore to rifle company. The Bn S2 wanted to overturn the posting but I said no. Quite sick of wearing a uniform but not being with the real troops. -
I was too fit and gung ho to be in HQ>LOL .I was down graded for a while but I asked to be upgraded so I could go back to company line. I oso Wont tell you which Brigate(it's the 7th Brigate)hahaha but the Brigate Commander wore a stupid hat macam Indiana Jones like that and the S4 was a fat fark CB mouth and a disgrace to the uniform.Originally posted by moca:Sorry, can't tell you my unit. This makes it easier for me later on to tell stories about the people I met during my service without incriminating anyone.
So, you from Brigade, too? What department?
During reservist, I got knocked down to Bn HQ, and then after that got 'knocked down" somemore to rifle company. The Bn S2 wanted to overturn the posting but I said no. Quite sick of wearing a uniform but not being with the real troops. -
[quote]Originally posted by CM06:
[b]More over, regarding security issues, Majors require a different level of clearance.
Wat security issues? That issue is already settled even before a person becomes a 2nd Leftenan. -
S1 estab typically given to a captain, not a major. It's only a paper pushing post. Even an LTA could sit on it.Originally posted by Short Ninja:Very good observation and if you notice there are no oustanding officers who would become S1s or S4s but usually the angkat bodek arrow king type.BTW did you serve in the 7th Brigade? Dont need to answer if you dont feel comfortable. -
wait long long!
unless u surpass all of your fellow gangs, else u will be retiring as a captain. -
Oh yes,I ve seen lau chiaw LTAs holding those appointment and after they got the third bar they would walk around with a big grin on the face making phone calls to let everybody know about the promotion.I dont think the modern SAF is like this but in the old days there were a lot of people you would want to give a tiight slap on the face for wasting tax payers money.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:S1 estab typically given to a captain, not a major. It's only a paper pushing post. Even an LTA could sit on it. -
For any "tann jia peng" career officer, the minimum rank is Cpt. Unless you fcuk up big time, otherwise most Perm Staff officers can reach the rank of Captain reasonably fast before they are 35yrs old - even the stupid ones if they stay out of trouble.
Rank inflation in SAF is pretty bad.
In western professional armies, it is not unusual to find 30 year old Lcpl career soldiers. Or 30 year old 1st Lt.
In my reservist unit, because of the introduction of the (then) new 1st Sgt rank - all the NCOs were promoted en masse to 1st sergeants.
Most of the officers got 3 bars en masse also. So in my company there was only one Lt who was a recent replacement for a PC promoted to 2IC. Every other officer were Cpts. -
If you are an apple of your superior eye.. Promotion will take shorther time .. If not you have to just wait...