2 Singaporeans killed in fighter crash in Taiwan
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Oh right. How unfortunate. Nevertheless thank you for your assistance.
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[quote]Originally posted by beavan:
his unit men will carry him off the plane that brings him back. being airforce there might be a "missing man" formation fly over./quote]
You meant that the deceased NSFs are from RSAF? I don't think RSAF have any openly declared and official training arrangements.
This is all so sudden and saddening...When I am in Hukou camp , used to see the ROC fighter jets fly above the training area where we are training. Luckily there are no civilian casualties.
RIP
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Is this the same F-5 variant which ST help to upgrade years ago?Originally posted by moca:
Taiwanese F5F. -
The F5s STAe upgraded were RF-5s, which are basically reconaissance planes not the two-seater F-5F....
My condolences to the 2 soldiers.... -
My condolences to the two servicemen and their families. Being in service myself, I feel real sorry for them and their families.
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Salutes to the 2 national serviceman who lost their lives in the call of duty.
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SAF Overseas Incident - Update 1
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Posted: 11 May 2007, 2130 hours (Time is GMT +8 hours)
A team of five SAF doctors left for Taiwan this afternoon. They will be working with the Taiwanese medical authorities to stabilise the two SAF servicemen warded in the Intensive Care Units of Taipei Tri-service Hospital so that they can be brought back to Singapore as soon as it is medically advisable to do so.
The two servicemen who died in the incident have been identified as Corporal (CPL) Isz Sazli Bin Sapari (19 years old) and Private (PTE) Fan Yao Jin (23 years old). Their next of kin have been informed. MINDEF and the SAF extend their deepest condolences to the families of the late CPL Isz Sazli and PTE Fan, and will be assisting the families in their time of grief.
MINDEF has made arrangements for the next of kin of the affected SAF personnel to be flown to Taiwan. They will be accompanied by family-liaison officers and counsellors from the SAF.
MINDEF and the SAF will continue to work with the Taiwanese authorities to provide support and assistance to the affected servicemen and their families. -
poor private
1 month 350 nia still so cham
go taiwan donno its enjoy life or wat sia -
For the last time, the 2 deceased are NOT RSAF pilots. The pilots killed were Taiwanese. The 2 NSFs were probably from an army unit as the army does train in Taiwan. Chances are the coffin bearers will be from their unit, more specifically from their coy.
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year 2007 & 2008 is full of risk in Taiwan. war can happen anytime between taiwan and mainland china. I think singapore better find another place for military training. shouldn't stay at taiwan. If not when war happen, don't know how many more missiles and aeroplane will drop from the sky.
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One of them was an AJCian right?
heard from the news
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How on earth did our military send people to get killed?
It's not Iraq, it's Taiwan. -
i think it certainly open to Singaporean to question our role with Taiwan. Of course there is a tendency to say lets pull out before we burn our hands.Originally posted by justdoit77:year 2007 & 2008 is full of risk in Taiwan. war can happen anytime between taiwan and mainland china. I think singapore better find another place for military training. shouldn't stay at taiwan. If not when war happen, don't know how many more missiles and aeroplane will drop from the sky.
but of course there are implication especially from a history perspective, geopolitical reason and most importantly also being the role of oversea Chinese. Oversea chinese contributed money to support Sun Yat Szen to over throw Qing dynasty, Oversea Chinese contributing money back to China to fight against Japanese occupation in China. And oversea Chinese struggle against Chinese communist influence in the 60s.
So a lot have to ask our role in historical perspective. Although I am not sure the young generation understand all that. But it will be interesting to see what direction our leader and people will take. -
shit happen.Originally posted by Yaimster:How on earth did our military send people to get killed?
It's not Iraq, it's Taiwan. -
Last time i checked, no air force crashes their planes into their own bases intentionally.Originally posted by Yaimster:How on earth did our military send people to get killed?
It's not Iraq, it's Taiwan.
which part of "It was an accident" needs more clarification? -
Overseas Chinese have often been pivotal in the future of China herself.Originally posted by Arapahoe:i think it certainly open to Singaporean to question our role with Taiwan. Of course there is a tendency to say lets pull out before we burn our hands.
but of course there are implication especially from a history perspective, geopolitical reason and most importantly also being the role of oversea Chinese. Oversea chinese contributed money to support Sun Yat Szen to over throw Qing dynasty, Oversea Chinese contributing money back to China to fight against Japanese occupation in China. And oversea Chinese struggle against Chinese communist influence in the 60s.
So a lot have to ask our role in historical perspective. Although I am not sure the young generation understand all that. But it will be interesting to see what direction our leader and people will take. -
Why don't you start blaming LTA each time a vehicle accident happens on our roads. Its an accident. Can't really fault anybody.Originally posted by Yaimster:How on earth did our military send people to get killed?
It's not Iraq, it's Taiwan.
I hope the pilot was fighting to steer the plane into the forest. -
hukou camp is for armour trging 1...... news put de plane steer den crash...most power news i hearOriginally posted by CM06:hmmm Hukou. I was there..the camp not airbase. Sheet. This is bad news.
It's odd though, never knew we have people training in F5s in taiwan. -
The pilots are Taiwanese. Read the posts beforehand..
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I am sure mainland china treasure Sun Yat Szen more than Taiwan on his contribution to the nation. The Chen Shui Bian government even took down Sun and Jiang's painting and statue from the government office.Originally posted by Arapahoe:i think it certainly open to Singaporean to question our role with Taiwan. Of course there is a tendency to say lets pull out before we burn our hands.
but of course there are implication especially from a history perspective, geopolitical reason and most importantly also being the role of oversea Chinese. Oversea chinese contributed money to support Sun Yat Szen to over throw Qing dynasty, Oversea Chinese contributing money back to China to fight against Japanese occupation in China. And oversea Chinese struggle against Chinese communist influence in the 60s.
So a lot have to ask our role in historical perspective. Although I am not sure the young generation understand all that. But it will be interesting to see what direction our leader and people will take.
Sad to say, from what I can see based on singapore government's action in the past, they don't really like to see Taiwan & China to be united together.
So, better do the training at countries like australia, new zealand all this. -
R.I.P
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i sneak this dialog on the china bashing forum but i think SG gov is looking at china with consideration. So at this "moment" looking at preserving the status quo of 1 country 2 systems create stabilities in the region.Originally posted by justdoit77:I am sure mainland china treasure Sun Yat Szen more than Taiwan on his contribution to the nation. The Chen Shui Bian government even took down Sun and Jiang's painting and statue from the government office.
Sad to say, from what I can see based on singapore government's action in the past, they don't really like to see Taiwan & China to be united together.
So, better do the training at countries like australia, new zealand all this.
SPIEGEL: What are your reservations?
Mr. Lee: I don't know whether the next generation will stay on this course. After 15 or 20 years they may feel their muscles are very powerful. We know the mind of the leaders but the mood of the people on the ground is another matter. Because there's no more communist ideology to hold the people together, the ground is now galvanised by Chinese patriotism and nationalism. Look at the anti-Japanese demonstrations. -
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Let's keep politics from ruining this thread.
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Seemed tat someone living close to the crash site took some high res photo of the jet before it crashed...
This is an extract from his blog on his opinion on the pilots...... To me, their value is in the hopes that they will clear the pilots of error.
I also want to give my personal take on the incident. I saw the jet in its final moments. The pilots had time to eject. They chose not to. Instead, they flew their aircraft into the ground on the base, thus sparing countless hundreds of lives in the crowded Hukou area that would have been lost in the crash and subsequent explosion.
When I look at the photos of 5371, I see 2 heroes in the cockpit....
Source: http://thenhbushman.blogspot.com