Does the mighty SAF have any weaknesses?
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It is very easy for a military ship to block a merchant from going to another country. In history, many countries like US, Japan, german has done that before. nothing new.
haha, sink the US carrier fleet? I assume you are kidding.
That's why in the beginning, I have said most countries arm forces has weakness including singapore in for example having to depends on the seller in maintaining high tech weapon.
singapore shouldn't depends on US alone for all the high tech weapon, it is very risky.Originally posted by tripwire:waaa... i didnt know our enemy so power can block the the international SLOC... i wonder if the superpowers and other countries that relies on our SLOC have anything to say....
who knows... maybe they will sink the US carrier fleet, Japan, Indian and PLAN navy at the same time to show they mean buissness....
with respect to high tech weapon... aint that a fact for practically almost every nation on earth with the exception of the few?
or do you really think that a parang or other low tech weapon stands a chance against modern firepower? oh... dont give me that hunting rifle shot down the apache story from iraq... its true that while some human ingenuity can be spectacular.. but dont expect that to win a high pace war...
frankly... its a harsh world... the superpowers do call the shots... if you are not happy with them... pray hard that they are not interested in you... the only good news is that there are more then one superpower....
if US, China, RUS are actually one big superpower... IRAN wont even dare raise their head before bushy man.... the same will go for the rest of us of course.
in conclusion... it pays to be friends with superpowers... even if they dont help you directly in a war... i would love to see our enemy sink the superpowers' navy or merchant ships who is carrying supplies and weapons to us.
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Here is a big weakness:
Too many of us are "speckees" - 4 eyes. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Once MY shut the water tap to us. SAF shall mobolise & up we go.
Water
1.The common wisdom is if MY shut the water tap.we all will
die.No need to fight.
sg have storage of 100 days of usage.
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Message was delivered to reservist few yrs back during ICT. -
ehhh.... i dont think i had the US or other global powers in mind, when i challenged our "enemy" to block the straits of melaka with their "kick-ass navy"Originally posted by justdoit77:It is very easy for a military ship to block a merchant from going to another country. In history, many countries like US, Japan, german has done that before. nothing new.
haha, sink the US carrier fleet? I assume you are kidding.
That's why in the beginning, I have said most countries arm forces has weakness including singapore in for example having to depends on the seller in maintaining high tech weapon.
singapore shouldn't depends on US alone for all the high tech weapon, it is very risky.
singapore shouldnt be dependent on US alone for high tech weapon, but would any weapon in our possession make a difference if we became a US enemy? -
People who want us to leave the orbit of an US alliance simply have no inkling of the geopolitical vulnerability that Singapore actually faces.Originally posted by tripwire:ehhh.... i dont think i had the US or other global powers in mind, when i challenged our "enemy" to block the straits of melaka with their "kick-ass navy"
singapore shouldnt be dependent on US alone for high tech weapon, but would any weapon in our possession make a difference if we became a US enemy? -
talk is talk.Originally posted by seachfun:Once MY shut the water tap to us. SAF shall mobolise & up we go.
Message was delivered to reservist few yrs back during ICT.
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If MY and Ind decide to joint up against Sing, does that means that FPDA with the rest of the country are off the table?
i ask because of geographical reason, i am not sure if there are enough political will to mount any attempt to release singapore. so at the end of the day Singapore will be alone. -
What do observers actually do? They obviously don't go with patrols, so I was thinking.. what do they learn when they don't see any "action"? Unles of course, their sitting at the base and looking at the strategic side.Originally posted by storm_freaky13:totally agree that we need combat experience. Not only the Officers NCOs should go as well.
Border patrol in SK is too much of a political risk. Although we aren't very comfy with NK, we are not really their enemies either.
Afghanistan, Iraq would be a better choice. obviously under UN. -
war is war if one doesnt afraid to start it he shouldnt be affraid of the consequenses
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FPDA isnt a defence treaty... there is no guarantees in there that would permit or require external powers to come to the aid of either singapore or/and malaysia.Originally posted by Arapahoe:If MY and Ind decide to joint up against Sing, does that means that FPDA with the rest of the country are off the table?
i ask because of geographical reason, i am not sure if there are enough political will to mount any attempt to release singapore. so at the end of the day Singapore will be alone.
however... that does not preclude the probable involvements by regional and global superpowers who would not want to see their economic SLOC being totally in the hands of afew anti-west /anti-chinese / islamic states.
not that... indonesia and malaysia actually stands a chance against us... but then again... why fight the hard way... if you can bring the US carriers / PLAN submarines to their doorstep? -
i agreed most unlikely senario. Was looking at the map and look at what possibilities that outside help is going to relieve Singapore if it comes.Originally posted by tripwire:FPDA isnt a defence treaty... there is no guarantees in there that would permit or require external powers to come to the aid of either singapore or/and malaysia.
however... that does not preclude the probable involvements by regional and global superpowers who would not want to see their economic SLOC being totally in the hands of afew anti-west /anti-chinese / islamic states.
not that... indonesia and malaysia actually stands a chance against us... but then again... why fight the hard way... if you can bring the US carriers / PLAN submarines to their doorstep? -
Geopolitics. The supply of oil is a big enough reason.Originally posted by Arapahoe:If MY and Ind decide to joint up against Sing, does that means that FPDA with the rest of the country are off the table?
i ask because of geographical reason, i am not sure if there are enough political will to mount any attempt to release singapore. so at the end of the day Singapore will be alone. -
We never shot on a life human before..
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hmmm guard duty and patrols would be good for us. Just don't see us sending a company to do house to house search for insurgents. too much risk back at home.Originally posted by chanjyj:What do observers actually do? They obviously don't go with patrols, so I was thinking.. what do they learn when they don't see any "action"? Unles of course, their sitting at the base and looking at the strategic side. -
One of my best friends is a US Marine and my neighbour is an SDF officer in Japan.Based on the stories they tell me I believe all armies are more or less the same when it comes to screw up in training and combat.Clumsy as in getting lost? As in shooting or bombarding own friendly forces,the waiting and delay in service and support........you name it,we are all the alikeOriginally posted by moca:Do you feel that we are a very flexible force? Always able to react to a ever changing battle situation?
Or do you get the nagging suspicion that we are becoming a little too like Americans. Too dependent on technology and firepower instead of cunning and tactics?
When I was in the infantry, I always felt we were very clumsy as a unit. Or is this true of most armies? I have never trained with other armies. -
Let me recommend armoured patrols and air support operations instead of infantry patrols.Originally posted by storm_freaky13:hmmm guard duty and patrols would be good for us. Just don't see us sending a company to do house to house search for insurgents. too much risk back at home.
It's a calculated compromise. Maybe we could start by providing CAS or strike missions from the air. -
SAF seriously need to issue servicemen with military grade eyewear for eyesight correction.
It has been ignored for too long.
It was my 2nd most serious problem throughout my service when in the field.
(The 1st problem were my shxtty boots. The 3rd is the stupidly high waistband of my No.4 trousers that keep dropping down to my hips, making movement difficult.)
Why DSTA keep coming up with super duper this and that weapon when many of our soldiers are short-sighted, and do not have the proper glasses for combat?
So much money is invested for all the other equipment when the human eye is the most important battle tool. You can't see, you can't fight.
After one arty bombardment or skirmish, some speckees will lose their glasses or have them damaged, and these soldiers will be effectively blind and a liability.
MINDEF must not only invest in R&D for eyewear but issue them to all who need them upon enlistment. And these "regulation" glasses will be all that servicemen are allowed to wear when in uniform. This adds to the uniformity rather than people wearing all manner of different and unsuitable glasses.
LASIK is still imperfect and the healing process may take quite a while and has side effects. Otherwise this should be performed on all about to enter NS, paid for the the government. -
lasik is extremely expensive.
i agree on the specs point. it;s a huge pain in the ass -
One of my best friends is a US Marine and my neighbour is an SDF officer in Japan.Based on the stories they tell me I believe all armies are more or less the same when it comes to screw up in training and combat.Clumsy as in getting lost? As in shooting or bombarding own friendly forces,the waiting and delay in service and support........you name it,we are all the alike
if there is no screw ups , how to learn from mistake? combat is an art, its unpredictable. -
We dont know what combat stress can do to a soldier or any mind so we cant really say who is likely to commit the atrocites.2 years ago a group from US navy seals team 6 went into a suspected hostile Village in Irag and killed all the men,women and children.These were highly trained people but they chose to get even in their own ways and I am sure you and I have lots of Furking ideas also when the going gets rough.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Not all conscripts, but rather troops who lack training in POW management, urban patrol and cultural training. -
Maybe Caleb Chiang meant it in a different way when he used the word Mercenary.You have no idea how good a soldier is being paid in the US ,if you sign on or join the army to fight in Iraq you get tens of thousands of dollars,citizenship,subsidized housing,free medical for family members,shop till you drop in army discount stores all over the world,even get to finish your education and earn a university degree,......the benefits is endless.After taking all the carrots it is only fair that you cant ask questions if you are sent to die in a foreign soil.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Ooi, dun slander the Yank grunts by calling them "paid mercenaries". There is a BIG difference between the grunt who fights for his country in the professional capacity and an actual mercenary whose loyalties are determined by something else entirely. -
not enough gundam suits
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Yes,I totaly agree with this.For starters all habitual arrow kings have to go cuz these people will surely fail you in times of trouble.Then there are the ones who are like the trained circus animals...outstanding perfomers on the outside but if you know their true personality you would shiver in fear to know that these same garang or kilat soldiers would steal from you or use you as shield to save their own skin.In war we dont just dodge bullets to survive but we have to worry about caring for the wounded and to make sure that they are treated and evacuated we also worry about our so called friendlies who would take our rations and ammo without asking.These things do happen in SAF in hard training in the past and I believe it is sill on going.Also I would like to add by saying that all officers and NCOs make sure you are as fit as your men.Do not make imposible physical demands from your subordnates if you are not ready to sweat it out and bleed yourself.Originally posted by leo-kun:weakness being SAF keep too much usless ppl....see for yourself -
And what would they learn from guard duty?Originally posted by storm_freaky13:hmmm guard duty and patrols would be good for us. Just don't see us sending a company to do house to house search for insurgents. too much risk back at home. -
theres a issue of pioneer where they use revision sawfly protection eyewearOriginally posted by moca:SAF seriously need to issue servicemen with military grade eyewear for eyesight correction.
It has been ignored for too long.
It was my 2nd most serious problem throughout my service when in the field.
(The 1st problem were my shxtty boots. The 3rd is the stupidly high waistband of my No.4 trousers that keep dropping down to my hips, making movement difficult.)
Why DSTA keep coming up with super duper this and that weapon when many of our soldiers are short-sighted, and do not have the proper glasses for combat?
So much money is invested for all the other equipment when the human eye is the most important battle tool. You can't see, you can't fight.
After one arty bombardment or skirmish, some speckees will lose their glasses or have them damaged, and these soldiers will be effectively blind and a liability.
MINDEF must not only invest in R&D for eyewear but issue them to all who need them upon enlistment. And these "regulation" glasses will be all that servicemen are allowed to wear when in uniform. This adds to the uniformity rather than people wearing all manner of different and unsuitable glasses.
LASIK is still imperfect and the healing process may take quite a while and has side effects. Otherwise this should be performed on all about to enter NS, paid for the the government.
http://www.revisioneyewear.com/press/NEWSRELEASE_Singapore_08AUG2005.pdf
but too bad that the sole distro in SG thinks military orders are enuff to cover em and and dont do civie orders else all SAF personel who needs em can get it at the local e-mart.
not cheap thou, a complete set with the eyesight correction inserts cost up to 120 USD .
looks better than oakley IMHO , but still abit overpriced considering that theres only one distro (monopoly).
Its used by the canucks and the yankees so it must be really good IMHO.
Boots... I think the gore tex ones are a-ok for me, but i havnt wear other kinds so i dunno ...
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