OFFICIAL: Gulfstream 550 - Airborne Early Warning system.
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AESA ( or Active phased array Radar in the non-US way) has born features which can achieve what we call “ Low probability of Interception” or LPI in short. Of course you need add in powerful signal processing behind the phase arrayed antenna to support LPI.Originally posted by beavan:i got a question.
in what way will getting a new radar system counter this?
Multiple agile beams in a split of second is what AESA can fool the ARMÂ’s seeker.
Signals from AESAÂ’s sidelobe is very low and active cancelling techniques make the ARM impossible to lock on the AESAÂ’s sidelobe.
So the Seeker of ARM has to look for the AESAÂ’s main beam, but unfortunately, the ARM seekers require a certain dwell time in order to get a lock, for example, the seeker of ARM needs certain time to continually receive the stable beam emitted from the target in order to build a moving targetÂ’s flight profile so that it can home on afterwards. The electronic steered beams can come & go so fast that they won't even provide the dwell time for the ARM to lock, besides LPI, frequency hopping and pulse compression all come into play.
Another point, as previously some numbers have said, the G550 has a much faster cruise speed over old E-2C platform, AESA allows a faster carrier plane. The faster speed is not to say you are going to outrun of a Mach 4 missile but itÂ’s because the moving target always makes the attacking missiles difficult to lock, the faster, the harder. To certain speed, it may be out of ARMÂ’s allowed limit to engage a moving target. -
Please, you are not going to use long wavelength radar to fry other peopleÂ’s stuff, do you~Originally posted by tripwire:someone said that the new radar can fry the enemy radar by focusing radiation energy on it.
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Only X-band AESA is targeted to be potential HPM weapon.
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posting 25.06.2007 show it is equipped with Compact AEW
it it by IAI's Elta Systems GroupThe aircraft uses technologies Elta successfully developed for other airborne early warning (AEW) aircraft. The business jet configuration provides a low-cost option while offering the full range of systems of larger AEW aircraft.
2.our fren already quote here:
Elta's CAEW&C systems include phased array radar, phased array IFF (Identification of Friend or Foe), Signal Intelligence (SIGINT) and a Communication system. The communication system includes also a data link and a Satellite Communication (SATCOM) system for secure high-speed links to ground stations.
A unique fusion technique cross-correlates data from all the CAEW&C sensors, allowing the aircraft to automatically search for specific targets. Data and reports can be integrated in a network centric system.
REF XQQMA XQQAR XQQIE XQQTY--13 June 2005
Executive Overview: Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems,
By Martin Streetly, JREW Editor
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Yeah. What about it? It is a known fact that it is from Israel. You can find it on the company`s website.
I think the question everyone has been asking is whether we got the Airborne Integrated Signal Intelligence System (AISIS) as well(the one in the backgorund)
Since it is officially acknowledged we have 4 CAEWs, what about the other 2 gulf-streams which Flight International has reported we purchased as well.
4 CAEWs and 2 AISIS from the formidable Nachshon (Pioneer) system which is an all-in-one package for aerial/ground surveillance and intelligence gathering.
Obviously, it is a sensitive issue for any country(saved major powers and a few others) to declare officially that you bought the AISIS which is essentially a high-tech spy/intelligence gathering plane. -
post your link? cant seem to find it thanks. On the other hand..hmmm...wonder if this is secret stuff. AFAIK roll royce didnt have another sale on press release either... so it's likely speculation??Originally posted by Arthas79:Yeah. What about it? It is a known fact that it is from Israel. You can find it on the company`s website.
I think the question everyone has been asking is whether we got the Airborne Integrated Signal Intelligence System (AISIS) as well(the one in the backgorund)
Since it is officially acknowledged we have 4 CAEWs, what about the other 2 gulf-streams which Flight International has reported we purchased as well.
4 CAEWs and 2 AISIS from the formidable Nachshon (Pioneer) system which is an all-in-one package for aerial/ground surveillance and intelligence gathering.
Obviously, it is a sensitive issue for any country(saved major powers and a few others) to declare officially that you bought the AISIS which is essentially a high-tech spy/intelligence gathering plane.
Alternatively someone remember in around 2008-09 to visually peek at the gulfstream when they arrice to see if there's any with the box pointing downwards. That would kinda be a dead giveaway. -
It`s in print. go to the national library. Outta be flight. They are a credible magazine.
It does not have to come out via an official press release does it? This is not Germany and it ain`t a weapon system. It`s a commercial plane. Hmm, if it were up to me, id buy it through ten layers of sub-contractors.
It makes sense for the RSAF to buy the entire Pioneer system especially if we had a hand in the development. It was posted in military nuts was`nt it? -
Actually old news, one sources of 6 Gulfstream 550 was reported here:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/02/28/205196/asian-aerospace-2006-us-navy-in-talks-over-states-hawkeye.htmlSingapore has already acquired at least six Gulfstream Vs as its preferred replacement platform and is expected to convert the bulk of these to carry the Israel Aircraft Industries Phalcon active phased array radar.
More related news plus scanned article could be found here, (10 pg, lot of reading):
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Holy
Okay you know i know. MinDef's right anyway. We are ordering 4 CAEW planes only.
Hush hush.
You know i know..
I know i slow.
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Heh. Commercial Gulfstreams? Hehe.
Things are only commercial for very few reasons. When the military is involved that is. -
range of radar exceeds 200 nm---http://www.dsta.gov.sg/home/admin/MiscFiles/myImages/070423_ST.pdf
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i had a casual chat with someone inside
he mentioned something that we are not getting the Gulfstream..nor the one Israeli are using. Oh well.... duno what he is saying anyway
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Originally posted by tek_koh:i had a casual chat with someone inside
he mentioned something that we are not getting the Gulfstream..nor the one Israeli are using. Oh well.... duno what he is saying anyway 
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we were chatting about the phasing out of E2C and i said we are getting the Israeli Gulfstreams .. he said 'no we are not using those.'
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Eh?? then why did we buy 4 gulfstreams G550s for again?Originally posted by tek_koh:we were chatting about the phasing out of E2C and i said we are getting the Israeli Gulfstreams .. he said 'no we are not using those.'
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People can say anything they want.
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wah liew..all over got official news liao still say fake?
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Are the planes delivered already? I saw a similar plane flying over Khatib camp last Sat(hard to miss the 2 engines besides the tail).
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Maybe just a private plane to Seletar Airport?
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Originally posted by tek_koh:Maybe just a private plane to Seletar Airport?
Read the first post in this thread, there are links to the official Mindef announcement plus factsheet of the new AEW a/c. -
aiyo..announced doesnt mean is delivered right awayOriginally posted by gary1910:
Read the first post in this thread, there are links to the official Mindef announcement plus factsheet of the new AEW a/c. need at least 2yrs for manufacturing, testing before delivered...... -
nevermind
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I was refering to his early comment that SAF is not getting the Gulfstream for Awacs role.Originally posted by duotiga83:aiyo..announced doesnt mean is delivered right away need at least 2yrs for manufacturing, testing before delivered...... -
ok la chill..we wait and see what comes flying in the next few years ok?
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ok la chill..we wait and see what comes flying in the next few years ok?[
If you are staying around paya lebar, you would already see it flying around for quite some time. Not too sure if they`re the ones we bought or it is meant for testing.
The GS Phalcons are meant to replace the E-2Cs. Confirmed lah. My friend who is a techy guy inside told me. At any rate, it is official that we bought the platform; i.e CAEW(from the horse`s mouth; the SAF and the company which makes the plane)So, what else can it be used for? And the E-2Cs are going to be retired. You cannot hide equipment that big which is why the SAF has to come out into the open. You can see our E-2Cs flying over our air-space too. How to hide? Also, i reckon it serves a detterant effect.
The E-2Cs will of course be flying till the GS are ready. So, technically, it can be said we are not using the GS yet. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Why has the RSAF picked the G550 over other solutions such as further upgrades of existing E-2Cs?
Sep. 20, 2006 0:12 | Updated Sep. 20, 2006 9:01
New AWACS enhances IAF's vision
By YAAKOV KATZ
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Speaking at the ceremony, Shkedy said the Eitam was an essential operational tool that would be utilized to create aerial pictures deep inside enemy territory while at the same time serving as a warning system for incoming aerial threats.
Hinting at a connection between the arrival of the new aircraft and Iran's race to obtain nuclear weapons, Shkedy said, "Throughout the years of Israel's existence, defense of the skies has been the IAF's primary mission. Over the years, however, the threats have changed... and the potential for an existential threat to the state is taking form while the bells of peace are still, to our misfortune, far away."
Nissim Hadas, CEO of Elta Systems, told the Post that the radar aboard the Eitam had a range of "several hundred kilometers." The plane, he said, was capable of carrying up to 20 passengers and was compact and fuel efficient.
"The plane doesn't need to enter enemy territory," Hadas said. "It can fly far away while creating and projecting the aerial picture above the country in which the IAF wants to operate."
Coupled with the purchase of heavy fighters like F-15SG, can it be interpreted that the RSAF wants to have an expeditionary capability?
Cheers,
Sunho