Live firing tips
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I think our friend is in the NCC.
Furthermore, he is going to the range, whereas "live firing" in SAF denotes something different. -
Hmm you from NCC and going for you live rounds shooting right? I just finished that a month ago I think...
The sound is ok, not super loud untill cmi.. wear your ear plug all the time once you enter the range! Even if uncomfortable, just let it remain there as long as it covers your ear.
IMO, firing the live round is easier than the simulation. The target is damn big, impossible to miss. Just remember what the instructor told you in the past!
Breathe in a steady pace.. once you are about to shoot, hold only half of your breath. Don't snap, squeeze slowly. Make your your alignment of fore sight tip and rear sight apperture(Spell? lols) is properly alligned. After you fire remember to remember where you aimed at and follow through.
Before firing there is a "zeroing" phase. Where you get to shoot 4 rounds at the canadian bull and 4 rounds at the fig 12. Please bear in mind this is an extremely important phase if you still don't understand how to align the aiming tips. Remember where you aim and after you fire finish, you are to take down the board to replace it with the actual target board. Remember to look at your shots and "zero" it. I hope you know what I meant by zeroing?
If you still CMI and really want the badge arh.. there is a way. But if you get caught den die liao loh. After the actual target board is put up, just continue to fire. After firing when you are taking it down, tear away the black tapes they used to tape the holes where the pass firer has fired. Remember, 10 is enough! More than that will only arouse suspicion!
I hope you do not need to cheat.. hahaha. Integrity horh.. Our core values.. -
Does that mean our boys in arty are really done for? Always wondered bout that...Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Wahlau, what advice to give!
USE YOUR EARPLUGS! PROTECT YOUR EARS!
Hearing damage is cumulative, and cannot be restored once the nerve cells are dead. Unfortunately due to the brain's ability to make up for hearing loss, you won't be aware of hearing damage until you have lost quite a lot of your hearing.
And this hearing loss cannot be restored.
On average, serving 2 years in a combat vocation where you see a lot of life firings and loud noises, even with earplugs the grunt loses 8 percent of his hearing. And this loss is for life.
If you don't use ear plugs, the damage done is far worse. You may not notice the effects at first but a few years down the road when you are older it will becoming extremely obvious as you start to lose hearing naturally as part of aging... since you have less of a hearing nerve cell "buffer" to lose, you will suddenly experience a drastic loss of hearing within a few short years... and then it's too late liao.
So don't follow your friends who think they macho can tahan blanks and life firings without hearing protection, while they think they are okay, actually they are damaging their hearing with every pull of the trigger. No matter how garang they are, the fact remains that the pressure waves generated by firearms, even with blanks, are well over the limit that can cause hearing loss and damage.
And factor in all the outfield, all the life firing and all the stuff... that's a lot of damage.
This one dun play play one... I notice that my hearing is less acute then it was before I entered NS, and I used hearing protection a lot.
NS is only for two years, don't lose sacrifice your hearing for it. -
Oh crap! haha.. didn't read properlyOriginally posted by moca:I think our friend is in the NCC.
Furthermore, he is going to the range, whereas "live firing" in SAF denotes something different.
NCC... -
i know how to get marksmen liao!
use auto...3 shots at one spot... -
Hoho.. arty is COMPULSORY to wear earplugs/mufflers.. seen an arti spec. YayaPapaya during live firing @ NZ, he nv wear muffler, when the round was fired, he was bleeding frm da ear...Originally posted by fallin:Does that mean our boys in arty are really done for? Always wondered bout that... -
har? NCC still using targetboard one ar? lol.. Not using auto system meh? Which range NCC always go to? NeeSoon? Keep seeing busloads of kids in No.4 going in to neesooncamp.Originally posted by VagueHart:If you still CMI and really want the badge arh.. there is a way. But if you get caught den die liao loh. After the actual target board is put up, just continue to fire. After firing when you are taking it down, tear away the black tapes they used to tape the holes where the pass firer has fired. Remember, 10 is enough! More than that will only arouse suspicion!
I hope you do not need to cheat.. hahaha. Integrity horh.. Our core values.. -
NCC shoot 50m only leh.......they got timing anot ah? or all target is "on time on target carry on"?
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Actually 25m nia...and yeah its OTOT. Thing is...friggin target so big...some co*ksters can still miss.Originally posted by |-|05|:NCC shoot 50m only leh.......they got timing anot ah? or all target is "on time on target carry on"? -
Not zeroing but grouping exerciseOriginally posted by VagueHart:Before firing there is a "zeroing" phase. Where you get to shoot 4 rounds at the canadian bull and 4 rounds at the fig 12. Please bear in mind this is an extremely important phase if you still don't understand how to align the aiming tips. Remember where you aim and after you fire finish, you are to take down the board to replace it with the actual target board. Remember to look at your shots and "zero" it. I hope you know what I meant by zeroing? -
dude, it's "own time, own target".Originally posted by |-|05|:NCC shoot 50m only leh.......they got timing anot ah? or all target is "on time on target carry on"? -
lol yea sorry didnt proof readOriginally posted by Daniel-Lim:dude, it's "own time, own target". -
unsure if 50 or 100mOriginally posted by Rejected:50m? -
yea i m from ncOriginally posted by moca:I think our friend is in the NCC.
Furthermore, he is going to the range, whereas "live firing" in SAF denotes something different. -
Originally posted by VagueHart:Hmm you from NCC and going for you live rounds shooting right? I just finished that a month ago I think...
The sound is ok, not super loud untill cmi.. wear your ear plug all the time once you enter the range! Even if uncomfortable, just let it remain there as long as it covers your ear.
IMO, firing the live round is easier than the simulation. The target is damn big, impossible to miss. Just remember what the instructor told you in the past!
Breathe in a steady pace.. once you are about to shoot, hold only half of your breath. Don't snap, squeeze slowly. Make your your alignment of fore sight tip and rear sight apperture(Spell? lols) is properly alligned. After you fire remember to remember where you aimed at and follow through.
Before firing there is a "zeroing" phase. Where you get to shoot 4 rounds at the canadian bull and 4 rounds at the fig 12. Please bear in mind this is an extremely important phase if you still don't understand how to align the aiming tips. Remember where you aim and after you fire finish, you are to take down the board to replace it with the actual target board. Remember to look at your shots and "zero" it. I hope you know what I meant by zeroing?
If you still CMI and really want the badge arh.. there is a way. But if you get caught den die liao loh. After the actual target board is put up, just continue to fire. After firing when you are taking it down, tear away the black tapes they used to tape the holes where the pass firer has fired. Remember, 10 is enough! More than that will only arouse suspicion!
I hope you do not need to cheat.. hahaha. Integrity horh.. Our core values.. thx -
100m?
Quite easy la, the distance
Even Fig.15 still quite big
Just don't fool around when you zero your weapon
Make sure your rifle's straight (no canting/slanting to the side), hold your rifle tight to the hollow of your shoulder, hold your breath when you shoot (inhale or exhale is up to you) and don't snatch the trigger.
ATP 300m another story... After the rundown, your aiming is going all over the place
Eh... NCC got nightshoot bo? -
no nite shootOriginally posted by DarthBart:100m?
Quite easy la, the distance
Even Fig.15 still quite big
Just don't fool around when you zero your weapon
Make sure your rifle's straight (no canting/slanting to the side), hold your rifle tight to the hollow of your shoulder, hold your breath when you shoot (inhale or exhale is up to you) and don't snatch the trigger.
ATP 300m another story... After the rundown, your aiming is going all over the place
Eh... NCC got nightshoot bo?
I USED to be from ncc
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tip: if your zeroing is off, and you tried but am unable to read your shots, aim lower, at the bottom of your target. Generally shots tend to go high. Moreover, if your shots hit the rock,sand below the target, they might richchet off and hit the target. Still consider 1 hit. hehe
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Nope there is no nightshots. And yep, it's called the grouping exercise.. sorry bout that, I ain't really familiar with the terms used. And yes, it's nee soon for us.
Another tip is to bring the weapon to you instead of bringing your head to the weapon. The helmet is a good gauge on how many spacing is needed between the foresight apperture. Be confident. The target is very, very big. Enormous to be exact. Like what another forumer said, it's always better to aim down. Don't try to aim for headshot, did have some people who did that and they really regretted it...
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i think this is an urban legend? is this true?Originally posted by Moonstriker:Hoho.. arty is COMPULSORY to wear earplugs/mufflers.. seen an arti spec. YayaPapaya during live firing @ NZ, he nv wear muffler, when the round was fired, he was bleeding frm da ear... -
It's true leh... or at least it's feasible. People who were exposed to arty fire can get bleeding ears. Go arty firing without earplugs is foolhardly.Originally posted by beavan:i think this is an urban legend? is this true?
Actually, just try FIBUA without earplugs and you'll quickly discover the folly of your ways... even with earplugs the enclosed areas trap all the sound that it is still very loud even when you've stuffed them all the way it.
Cases of hearing damage do happen in the SAF, just go read about and you can find some cases. Got this MG commander who kenna a GPMG burst just beside his ear... just one burst was enough to burst his eardrum liao and he lost most of his hearing.
And of course, there was this guy who went life range without proper hearing protection, just one time was enough to damage his hearing for life, left with a constant ringing that never left him since that day.
In WW2, I read this account where this guy was standing on a tank trying to tell the commander something, suddenly the commander saw something and fired his main gun at it without telling the grunt. The grunt lost most of his hearing for life.
Not to scare anyone, but a smart grunt knows the right precautions to take... so protect your ears. -
it's true. Inbore explosion when testing FH2000 many years ago. Even people wearing ear plugs with ear muffs covers lost their hearing. But of course, this is an extreme case.Originally posted by beavan:i think this is an urban legend? is this true? -
We oughta come up with some kinda silent artillery system. First in the world!
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Originally posted by Shotgun:We oughta come up with some kinda silent artillery system. First in the world!
A little lacking in range, but it is relatively quiet and does not require the use of earplugs.
All kidding aside, though, don't forget to use your earplugs when you're at the range. Hearing loss is cumulative and permanent. A few years ago, a shooting buddy of mine forgot to don his ear muffs at the rifle range and touched off a single round in his milsurp Yugoslavian M48 Mauser. The 8 x 57mm cartridge used in the M48 has a very, very loud report, and that single event resulted in a permanent case of tinnitus in his right ear.
Play it safe: use hearing protection at the range. -
NCC 25m shoot
Grouping nia
Using the " KANINA Bull "
Any how shoot sure fail.
ATP 300m rundown
judging by the fact that the whole of my platoon is MM.
easy money i can say
New 70m combat shoot.
Even section with SAW gunners can get full marks...
Free frags, SAF giving out bonus to NSmen !
Should have range every ICT ma