F 15's in singapore colours?

• LazerLordz

  1 Apr 07, 12:10

  Originally posted by justdoit77:

  abit OT here. Actually instead of buying F15 from US, singapore should have bought SU30 from russia. SU30 is more capable and powerful then F15 and yet only a portion of the cost of F15.

  The logistics of doing so is not cost-effective, and interoperability in any mission will be a problem. Currently, we can share common spares and repair tooling.
  
  The SU30 would probably require Israeli modification to suit our needs.
• SingaporeTyrannosaur

  1 Apr 07, 19:20

  Note the Russian jets do not come with warranty... so you tend to get the look-good-on-paper-but-not-in-pratice-effect.
  
  But of course I think if it comes to it, the RSAF would be the most capable airforce in the region to keep any jet, Russian or not, in working condition.
• Arapahoe

  2 Apr 07, 06:03

  some information between F/A 18 super Honet II vs F15-E from other forum.
  
  Quote" The Raytheon AESA brings the capability for simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground operation and, starting with Lot 30, two-seat F/A-18Fs will have the advanced crew station, which decouples the front and rear pits. "The front-seater can sanitise the airspace while the rear-seater conducts an air-to-ground campaign," Both crew members will have the joint helmet-mounted cueing system.
  
  Just another little box of tricks that the F-15E Beagle can't do.
  
  Nobody seems worried that the avionics architecture on the F-15 is inferior, they just look at the outside skin and go "wow, doesn't that look fast". Quote"
  
• dork3d

  2 Apr 07, 07:36

  Originally posted by Arapahoe:

  some information between F/A 18 super Honet II vs F15-E from other forum.
  
  Quote" The Raytheon AESA brings the capability for simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground operation and, starting with Lot 30, two-seat F/A-18Fs will have the advanced crew station, which decouples the front and rear pits. "The front-seater can sanitise the airspace while the rear-seater conducts an air-to-ground campaign," Both crew members will have the joint helmet-mounted cueing system.
  
  Just another little box of tricks that the F-15E Beagle can't do.
  
  Nobody seems worried that the avionics architecture on the F-15 is inferior, they just look at the outside skin and go "wow, doesn't that look fast". Quote"
  

  Thought our F15SG have the most advanced AESA along with full weapon suites when they are delivered? F15SG was touted to be the best Eagle in the series...
  
  Me have a pilot friend who's training in the States now on the F15E but also been trained on the new AESA systems, which is better than the current...
  
  And also the platform can be integrated with our BCS on the ground, especially with the Armour and Arty...
• Arapahoe

  2 Apr 07, 08:42

  i believe the article was not comparing F-15SG vs F/A 18 II also it does not take consideration with intergrating with SAF and RSN.
  
  I am not an expert in the technical aspect of it.
• LazerLordz

  2 Apr 07, 09:56

  Originally posted by Arapahoe:

  some information between F/A 18 super Honet II vs F15-E from other forum.
  
  Quote" The Raytheon AESA brings the capability for simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground operation and, starting with Lot 30, two-seat F/A-18Fs will have the advanced crew station, which decouples the front and rear pits. "The front-seater can sanitise the airspace while the rear-seater conducts an air-to-ground campaign," Both crew members will have the joint helmet-mounted cueing system.
  
  Just another little box of tricks that the F-15E Beagle can't do.
  
  Nobody seems worried that the avionics architecture on the F-15 is inferior, they just look at the outside skin and go "wow, doesn't that look fast". Quote"
  

  The F-15E and the F-15SG are completely different in ability. The SG has a more advanced AESA package than the Superbug. Don't forget that we may still have yet to enhance it with Israeli modifications like our current F-16C/D Blk52+. The SG is also a twin-pilot plane.
• coolant

  2 Apr 07, 09:57

  One thing please make sure, the new F-15Â’s APG-63 V2/V3 AESA has 2000 T/R modules, while superbugÂ’s APG79 only gets 1000 plus such T/R modules. More T/R units translate into more powerful of the radar thus better detection and longer detection range.
• Arapahoe

  2 Apr 07, 23:10

  Originally posted by LazerLordz:

  The F-15E and the F-15SG are completely different in ability. The SG has a more advanced AESA package than the Superbug. Don't forget that we may still have yet to enhance it with Israeli modifications like our current F-16C/D Blk52+. The SG is also a twin-pilot plane.

  Yes i am sure we will get enhancement with the Israeli.
• CM06

  2 Apr 07, 23:32

  RSAF never said we have israeli upgrade...so we dont *wink*
  
  IF It's our own in house upgrades by now i wont be surprise. Maybe just TOT, and manufacture everything in house
• Thrall79

  5 Apr 07, 20:29

  The latest versions of the F-15s planes out-class earlier versions including the super-bugs. It is not wonder that in competitions, it usually boils down to the Typhoon, Rafale and the F15SG/K. Even the Japs are likely to get F-15s.
• SingaporeTyrannosaur

  6 Apr 07, 05:36

  Originally posted by Thrall79:

  Even the Japs are likely to get F-15s.

  Don't the Japs already operate hundreds of Eagles?
• coolant

  9 Apr 07, 09:41

  JapsÂ’ F-15J is very basic version notably lack of capability to launch AMRAAM. TheyÂ’re upgrading their F-15J fleet to F-15C/APG-63 standard since 2004. But it takes time to finish the upgrading.