Mirage 2000 evaded SU-27
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In a report by Kanwa News Jan 20 2002, a PRC SU-27 locked on 2 a ROC Mirage 2000-5, e Mirage then took effective reactions by jamming & breaking away in e course of sudden spiraling down. China was deeply impressed as e Mirage was able 2 effectively break SU-27 lock. Just recently PRC express interests 2 order 210 Mirage 2000-9 which is a more advanced version of e Mirage 2000-5. E Mirage 2000-9 also process e attack cap. of e Mirage 2000D while retaining full air-air cap.China has already started training in France on e Mirage 2000-5 2 better learn its cap.
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Is it e SU-27 radar or e Mirage 
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Faked Kanwa report...
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But itÂ’s not a secret Mirage2000-5Â’s radar is better than what Russia has exported in its Su27sk during early 1990s.
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What does this have to do with the Mirage2000-5s radar? From the looks of it, the small Mirage2000's jammer and radar evading manuevers were the ones that did the trick. I'm not too surprised.
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Faked? Humm, is Kanwa News from Taiwan
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No, Kanwa is not from Taiwan, the guy who set up it was born in China--Yunnan( Not hair-care one ok
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Taiwanese media did report some kind of such news several years ago, like this ( in Chinese)
http://big5.huaxia.com/js/th/2005/00358670.html -
Actually hor, we can more or less conclude Russian or PRC made weapons as "Lei shen da, yu dian xiao". This translate to, looks good on paper but lousy in technical. The SU-27 PRC bought from Russia based on one photo of the cockpit, I think is more or less ONLY comparable to western 2.5 GEN fighter. Mostly anaolg controls, only one multi-functional display.
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But China r in talks with France 2 buy 210 Mirage 2000-9 is true, it has been confirmed by both China & France. If e deal goes throu China will have twice e number of Mirage then Taiwan & each r of better capability
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Its the pilot
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The PRC Mirage 2000 buy is political.Originally posted by spartan6:But China r in talks with France 2 buy 210 Mirage 2000-9 is true, it has been confirmed by both China & France. If e deal goes throu China will have twice e number of Mirage then Taiwan & each r of better capability
Notice that their number 210 is equal to the ROC's buy of 60x 2000-5 mirages and 150x F16 Blk 25s.
Interesting now the PRC have both new Sukhois and also new Mirages.. really a force to be reckon with in the future. -
Chinese substantially modified their locally produced flankers, to be called J11, the latest J11 B model only shares the same airframe to the original Su27, but every thing inside, from powerplant, Radar, weapon system, Avionics all are indigenously made. Look at the below image, the Chinese J11B features a Holographic HUD, you can find same type of system in f22 as well, and you also can compare the J11BÂ’s c-ockpit to that of original Su27SK in 1990s.Originally posted by equlus84:... The SU-27 PRC bought from Russia based on one photo of the cockpit, I think is more or less ONLY comparable to western 2.5 GEN fighter. Mostly anaolg controls, only one multi-functional display.
Below is J11B image released from Chinese media, quite a mighty Flanker
More detailed reads on Chinese indigenous Flanker, the J11B, from AWST:
Chinese J-11B Presages Quiet Military Revolution...The nationally developed systems now in various stages of the J-11B test program potentially provide performance improvements over the various Su-27 models now in PLAAF service.
Air Show China, held here Oct. 31-Nov. 5, included the first official detail about the Shenyang Tai Hang engine. This turbofan powerplant is being developed for the Flanker, and is also sometimes referred to as the WS-10A. A handful of J-11B airframes are now likely being used for development testing, including at least one J-11B engine-integration aircraft.
Beijing and Moscow first agreed on the Flanker sale in 1991, with a license production contract signed in 1996. The Flanker has given China its most capable fighter aircraft while also providing a vehicle for its industry to gain knowledge of fourth-generation fighter manufacturing. The first kit-built J-11A was completed in 1998. The J-11A still uses Russian engines, radar and weaponry.
Design and development of the Tai Hang has been underway for nearly two decades, says one senior Chinese aero-engine executive. He admits the program has proved challenging: "We hit difficulties in developing the engine."
Chinese industry executives attending the show remain reticent to discuss the J-11B program. The executive would say only that the Tai Hang has "similar applications to the Al-31 [the present Su-27 engine]. It's of a similar thrust and is of the same technology generation." The J-11B program also includes the integration of Chinese-developed planar array pulse-Doppler radar replacing the Russian N-001 cassegrain radar, at least two versions of which are fielded by the PLAAF. An image of a J-11B, still in its primer (see top photo on p. 27), appears to show the aircraft fitted with a different radome to the basic Su-27. Given the available space for a flat-plate antenna, this would offer a performance improvement over the N-0001.
Also associated with the J-11B is the Luoyang PL-12 active radar-guided medium-range air-to-air missile. While the Chinese air force already has the Russian R-77 (AA-12 Adder) in service with the Su-27, the PL-12 offers a big performance increase over the present export standard of the Vympel R-77. Officials from the company were unable to discuss the PL-12 project.
The initial development test-firing program for the overall PL-12 program now appears complete, with the missile at least close to service entry. It was integrated first on the J-8II for the development program. Trials of the PL-12 on the Chengdu J-10 also have been carried out.
The PL-12 does benefit from Russian technology, with the seeker and inertial guidance system provided by Moscow. A variant of the Agat 9B-1103M radar seeker is the most likely candidate for the missile. This seeker was intended initially for an improved version of the R-77, but appears to have been sold to China first.
The PLAAF currently has the capability for two-target engagement using the Su-27, R-77 combination. Successful integration of the PL-12 on the J-11B would likely provide a genuine multitarget capability and give the PLAAF a more capable air superiority aircraft... -
I think soOriginally posted by Pitot:Its the pilot -
that's a very sexy picture.
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Where u get yr source PRC is going to buy 210 Mirage 2000? Unless France is going to withdraw from EU. The embargo will block it even PRC wants to buy it.....Originally posted by spartan6:But China r in talks with France 2 buy 210 Mirage 2000-9 is true, it has been confirmed by both China & France. If e deal goes throu China will have twice e number of Mirage then Taiwan & each r of better capability
PRC will be more happy to buy additional 210 J-10 for itself rather than Mirage 2000-9. Fully domestic produced is always prefer..... J-10 from radar,air frame and engines can 100% produced from China.. Why would they want to go back on depending on foreign product? Even it is superior,they most will buy a few dozen and then try to RE it. Buying such huge bulk makes no sense. -
http://singaporeangle.blogspot.com/2005/04/china-wants-to-buy-french-mirage-2000.html
Not an official source but it does have some details about PRC's interest in Mirage2000s. -
I agree..... the skill of the pilot is just as important as the adv the plane is.Originally posted by Pitot:Its the pilot 
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Yap yap
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Maybe some low level official trying to elevate the interest thru the press and thereby get the international communities to release the arm embargo.
PRC interest for the plane could be just a disguise. But for the french its a taste of the icying, which is trying to push for its arm export into China. PRC real interested is most probably western technology. As china already has the capabilities to build its own figthers. Buying a hundred planes is peanut if they can attain the technology for their military. -
that guy wearing a leather jacket! wow.