Singapore's Tragedy
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Still waters run deep. You never know what the northerners are really thinking. Perhaps waiting for the time when northerners become rich and powerful and can afford to arm themselves fully. Than some craze northerner politician may just decide to wipe out the little red dot off the map, intermingling relatives or no intermingling. Anyway, most intermingling relatives are chinese, get what i mean?
No one knows what the future holds. Luckily, SG gov. have good forward planning to safeguard little red dot's future.
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Islamic extremism is spreading like wildfire all over the world, why should SE Asia be left untouched?
Thailand - of all countries - is already a Jihad war zone though no one has called it that, yet.
We are a little red dot surrounded next to the most populous Islamic nation - Indonesia.
Islam in Indonesia is turning from religion to ideology there and is seen by many of the poor as the solution to their problems.
The same has already happened to many parts of Malaysia especially the north.
The current governments of MY and INDO are all pretty benign inspite of all the posing they do. But let one madman gain power on the back of some religious ideology in these countries and we're in danger .
A weekend trip to a village in Batam last year gave me the impression that we should keep up the high defence spending.
I remember feeling quite relieved when the ferry entered SG waters and there was this big-a.ss RSN warship there. -
EXACTLY!!
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The incentive for the administrations in MY, Indo and Thailand to clean up their separatist movements is the absence of American intervention in this region.
But they are stuck in between the devil and the deep blue sea. Clamp down and they risk a greater flare-up, which may also lead to radicalisation. Limited autonomy and urgent wealth sharing may the only solution. You have to give people a reason to protect their property and value their own lives. -
Originally posted by moca:
heehhehe...a sidenote......
[b]A weekend trip to a village in Batam last year gave me the impression that we should keep up the high defence spending.
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what were you doing in a Batam village last year? 
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Or do like Singapore, arrest them and then set them free like they did with the JI fu.ckers.
And probably housed and fed at the expense of taxpayers. Not to mention 24-hours security and surveilence.
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Originally posted by FireAndHell:
I was with my family, as my brother-in-law built a seaside bungalow there.
heehhehe...a sidenote...... what were you doing in a [b]Batam village last year? [/b]
The immigration officer didn't like my face and refused to stamp my passport and told me to "balek rumah".
I simply pretended not to understand him and smiled until one of our local contacts spoke to him and got things worked out.
My advice is when getting off the boat, don't wait till last. The immigration sons of sows pick on the last people to extort money as there are less witnesses or impatient crowds qeueing up behind.
A walk through the village - no vice, very Islamic - with mosque and prayer speakers everywhere, was quite unpleasant as even the kids have scornful faces for us Chinese Singaporeans.
During a bargaining session my loud-mouthed older sister had with some malay fishermen over the price of fish, things got very nasty and we suddenly found ourselves confronted by 8 very pissed off fishermen in their 20's and 30's.
We were inside their hut by the sea, in a remote malay village we reached by motor boat. They threw the fish down and started kicking at things and talking angrily in bahasa. These people gave me the impression that they are fishermen only by day, other things by night.
My sister, dressed in brightly coloured clothes and thinking she's in Chinatown, Singapore, did not sense the danger. I told her loudly to just shut the xxxx up and we made a cautious retreat. The anger in my voice when I spoke to my sister made the fishermen felt a little better as their male pride were probably offended by this badly-dressed and rude Cina woman.
In spite of all SG government is trying to do for the Indos, it continues to be money wasted. (Of course, you have people like my sister countering the governments PR effort by making Singaporeans thoroughly unliked all over the world.)
These Indos and MY people blame all their problems on us, and want nothing more than to see us suffer even if they gain nothing tangible from it. So guys, take your NS seriously. If they fu.ck around with us, make sure they end up as fertilizer. -
Your face look like Gus Dur- lah .Do you know that Gus Dur (Abdul Rahman Wahid ) got Chinese blood?
Islam is not just a religion,its a way of life.If we try to change muslims way of living they would naturally feel threatened.All religion teaches good but they also separate people,the religious teachers are to blame for fanning hate and violence not the religion.The best way is to learn a bit of each others way of life so we dont step onto other people tail.Also its advisable to have local guide when you are a new face.Wah if you kena color like that in Batam.....better not go to Sulawesi
Originally posted by Moca
I was with my family, as my brother-in-law built a seaside bungalow there.
The immigration officer didn't like my face and refused to stamp my passport and told me to "balek rumah".
I simply pretended not to understand him and smiled until one of our local contacts spoke to him and got things worked out.
My advice is when getting off the boat, don't wait till last. The immigration sons of sows pick on the last people to extort money as there are less witnesses or impatient crowds qeueing up behind.
A walk through the village - no vice, very Islamic - with mosque and prayer speakers everywhere, was quite unpleasant as even the kids have scornful faces for us Chinese Singaporeans.
During a bargaining session my loud-mouthed older sister had with some malay fishermen over the price of fish, things got very nasty and we suddenly found ourselves confronted by 8 very pissed off fishermen in their 20's and 30's.
We were inside their hut by the sea, in a remote malay village we reached by motor boat. They threw the fish down and started kicking at things and talking angrily in bahasa. These people gave me the impression that they are fishermen only by day, other things by night.
My sister, dressed in brightly coloured clothes and thinking she's in Chinatown, Singapore, did not sense the danger. I told her loudly to just shut the xxxx up and we made a cautious retreat. The anger in my voice when I spoke to my sister made the fishermen felt a little better as their male pride were probably offended by this badly-dressed and rude Cina woman.
In spite of all SG government is trying to do for the Indos, it continues to be money wasted. (Of course, you have people like my sister countering the governments PR effort by making Singaporeans thoroughly unliked all over the world.)
These Indos and MY people blame all their problems on us, and want nothing more than to see us suffer even if they gain nothing tangible from it. So guys, take your NS seriously. If they fu.ck around with us, make sure they end up as fertilizer.[/b][/quote] -
They u should orgnised a military onslaughter to keep their mouth shut.... there is no use discussing here....
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It's time to consider not sending them relief aid or money each timeOriginally posted by Orcishwarrior:Singapore has suffered decades of threats and humiliations from our neighbouring countries.Recently there has been a three pronged "attack"on us by malaysia , thailand and indonesia.Force us to expedite the extradition treaty by banning export of sand, Thailand Junta insulted our integrity....
Cant we do anything about it @ least a long term solution.
As a true blue singaporean, it makes me feel so frustrated.
they are hit by disasters.
Giving donations must be seen by them as a way to appease them
They have the impression that the donor country is afraid of them.
The more you give, the more they threaten you. So stop giving.
Ask UN to solve their problems. -
They need to find somebody to blame so as to make them feel good.Originally posted by moca:I was with my family, as my brother-in-law built a seaside bungalow there.
The immigration officer didn't like my face and refused to stamp my passport and told me to "balek rumah".
I simply pretended not to understand him and smiled until one of our local contacts spoke to him and got things worked out.
My advice is when getting off the boat, don't wait till last. The immigration sons of sows pick on the last people to extort money as there are less witnesses or impatient crowds qeueing up behind.
A walk through the village - no vice, very Islamic - with mosque and prayer speakers everywhere, was quite unpleasant as even the kids have scornful faces for us Chinese Singaporeans.
During a bargaining session my loud-mouthed older sister had with some malay fishermen over the price of fish, things got very nasty and we suddenly found ourselves confronted by 8 very pissed off fishermen in their 20's and 30's.
We were inside their hut by the sea, in a remote malay village we reached by motor boat. They threw the fish down and started kicking at things and talking angrily in bahasa. These people gave me the impression that they are fishermen only by day, other things by night.
My sister, dressed in brightly coloured clothes and thinking she's in Chinatown, Singapore, did not sense the danger. I told her loudly to just shut the xxxx up and we made a cautious retreat. The anger in my voice when I spoke to my sister made the fishermen felt a little better as their male pride were probably offended by this badly-dressed and rude Cina woman.
In spite of all SG government is trying to do for the Indos, it continues to be money wasted. (Of course, you have people like my sister countering the governments PR effort by making Singaporeans thoroughly unliked all over the world.)
These Indos and MY people blame all their problems on us, and want nothing more than to see us suffer even if they gain nothing tangible from it. So guys, take your NS seriously. If they fu.ck around with us, make sure they end up as fertilizer. -
but that achieve nothing.
anyway achieving nothing is their achievement -
Exactly.Originally posted by ninefold9:It's time to consider not sending them relief aid or money each time
they are hit by disasters.
Giving donations must be seen by them as a way to appease them
They have the impression that the donor country is afraid of them.
The more you give, the more they threaten you. So stop giving.
Ask UN to solve their problems.
The spectacular rescue achievements in Aceh was great act of humanity.
But...
It incensed many people to see some SG guy handing over a big cheque with a big silly grin on his face to some Indo guy with an even bigger grin, for the floods or something.
All this even as they are bi.tching about the sand issue.
Handing them money everytime they have problems isn't gonna win hearts and minds - it'll just breed in their mind that we are fat and rich, but weak enough to want to bribe them for the sake of our security.
Most of the aid money will end up in corrupt officials' pockets and we are knowingly or otherwise cultivating a form of corruption or, at best, dependency.
All bad.
Those who get a cut, will keep quiet. Those who didn't get, will make trouble until they also get some.
Remember the Batam Immigration pig? They're like that up and down the ladder.
It's been carrots so far, we should also bring a big stick when dealing with the Indos. -
That sounds familiar.... yes Taiwan!Originally posted by moca:Exactly.
The spectacular rescue achievements in Aceh was great act of humanity.
But...
It incensed many people to see some SG guy handing over a big cheque with a big silly grin on his face to some Indo guy with an even bigger grin, for the floods or something.
All this even as they are bi.tching about the sand issue.
Handing them money everytime they have problems isn't gonna win hearts and minds - it'll just breed in their mind that we are fat and rich, but weak enough to want to bribe them for the sake of our security.
Most of the aid money will end up in corrupt officials' pockets and we are knowingly or otherwise cultivating a form of corruption or, at best, dependency.
All bad.
Those who get a cut, will keep quiet. Those who didn't get, will make trouble until they also get some.
Remember the Batam Immigration pig? They're like that up and down the ladder.
It's been carrots so far, we should also bring a big stick when dealing with the Indos.
instead of getting to be recognised as a sovereign state we are trying to get recognition as a good neighbour... and the result?....waste money. -
S'poreans should stop going to Batam or Bintan for that matter...whether for some serious shopping, eating or for the seamy part. 'Cos them Indo may think we are rich and so need to squeese some funds from SG.