Design Urban warfare Robot & win S$1,000,000
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LOL!Originally posted by |-|05|:ahha this whole thing is now a joke......hahah then again at it's start it was a joke looking at wtf they are asking.
Then again Singapore......always liddat 1.I remember got once in poly got 1 project they ask us do for sports school. Tracking system for football players on the pitch so that they can do some AAR shit. They gave us $8000 to do it.The other systems on the market cost like $500,000.
Take the $8000, then give them the name card of the company that markets that system. =D -
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we quite literally told them to F*** off. hahaha chose another project.And i think no 1 bothered to do it.Originally posted by Shotgun:LOL!
Take the $8000, then give them the name card of the company that markets that system. =D -
It is really not so easy to win !!
Street-fighting robot challenge announced, 24 January 2007, NewScientist.com news service
* New Scientist Tech and AFPA contest to build a robot that can operate autonomously in urban warfare conditions, moving in and out of buildings to search and destroy targets like a human soldier, was launched in Singapore on Tuesday.
The country's Defence Science and Technology Agency (DSTA) is offering one million Singapore dollars ($652,000) to whoever develops a robot that completes a stipulated set of tasks – yet to be revealed – in the fastest time possible.
DSTA said individuals, companies, universities and research institutes are all welcome to participate in the contest, dubbed the TechX Challenge, although foreigners must collaborate with local partners.
"Operation in urban areas represents a significant challenge," DSTA chief executive Richard Lim said at the launch of the contest. "Recent military experiences in Iraq, the Middle East and other locations have clearly illustrated these challenges."
Remote control
Currently, robots deployed for urban warfare missions are normally operated remotely by a human, tying up resources, Lim said. DSTA wants to create a robot that "must, on its own, be able to navigate both indoors and outdoors in an urban landscape and accomplish a set of assigned tasks within a stipulated time", he said.
This robot must be able to negotiate a staircase and use the elevator to dash from one floor to another without the aid of satellite navigation, which may not be available indoors.
Navigation without satellite help would require the robot "to have machine vision capabilities to identify visual cues along its intended path to serve as waypoints", Lim said.
Robert Richardson at the University of Manchester, UK, says the competition could present a major challenge to even the most sophisticated robot. He notes that robots can navigate through an "unrestricted urban environment", by building a virtual map of a 3D space with relative ease.
Different doors
But Richardson adds that slightly more complex tasks, like opening a door or using an elevator, can present a huge problem. "How do you know which button goes where, or even what floor you're on?" he says. "It's very, very confusing." One solution, he says, is to train a robot by presenting it with hundreds of different doors and elevators.
Some defence experts say the fight against terrorism has made urban warfare increasingly common, and believe that high-tech weaponry could help minimise casualties.
Participants must submit their applications by the end of May 2007 and a shortlist of participants will be announced in June 2007. The robots will be tested in a qualifying round in May 2008 and a final round, in August 2008, will crown the robot warrior that can complete the assigned task in the fastest time.
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Mass produce the winner robot and take over the world perhaps?
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Only 1 mil for creating a robot that can do what even the top defence companies around the world are yet unable to crack?
They must be kidding us...
To quote somebody famous:
Pay peanuts, get robosapiens... -
NO, PAY PEAUTS GET TT DURAI, HAHA!!!Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Only 1 mil for creating a robot that can do what even the top defence companies around the world are yet unable to crack?
They must be kidding us...
To quote somebody famous:
Pay peanuts, get robosapiens...
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I want to design and make a fighter plane for RSAF...
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The 1 million will likely be in addition to contracts and stuff....Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Only 1 mil for creating a robot that can do what even the top defence companies around the world are yet unable to crack?
They must be kidding us...
To quote somebody famous:
Pay peanuts, get robosapiens...
I think that's the added motivation. -
cheapskate lah....... their chao kuan all come out liao......
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Considering that DSTA will likely buy the robot and buy a few more is itself a fair bit of motivation.
Plus, the DARPA Grand Challenge only doles out USD2million for a Unmanned Vehicle in a race that is far more difficult than what DSTA is asking for. The Grand Challenge is asking for a vehicle that can race across the desert.
Do note that in the last competition, 3 vehicles made it through. So, not impossible.
So can the ignorant criticism. -
Un uh... the questions of learning to use the elevator (what buttons to press, and how to operate the different kinds of lifts) not to mention properly SHOOTING something by itself is a far more complex task then dodging rocks and bushes in the open desert.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Considering that DSTA will likely buy the robot and buy a few more is itself a fair bit of motivation.
Plus, the DARPA Grand Challenge only doles out USD2million for a Unmanned Vehicle in a race that is far more difficult than what DSTA is asking for. The Grand Challenge is asking for a vehicle that can race across the desert.
Do note that in the last competition, 3 vehicles made it through. So, not impossible.
So can the ignorant criticism.
Giving out 600USD for such a task is certainly paying peaunts.
Impossible? No.
Cheapskate? Probably...
If we could really come up with such a thing, the first party the winner ought to sell it to is the yanks, who are trying to crack the problem of the battle droid as well... they'll be far more willing to pay a proper price for it. -
The main problem with this is a question of how they plan to use the sensors to detect humans. They have been using television guided warheads for a long time. It is a question of attempting to adapt the technology to this. Image Recognition technology like OCR has been around for a long time and has been quite successful at recognising patterns. Unless they choose rather to use some high resolution IR or radar or a combination of a lot of sensors. I believe the Israelis are working very hard and produced some examples of robots of this variety.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Un uh... the questions of learning to use the elevator (what buttons to press, and how to operate the different kinds of lifts) not to mention properly SHOOTING something by itself is a far more complex task then dodging rocks and bushes in the open desert.
Giving out 600USD for such a task is certainly paying peaunts.
Impossible? No.
Cheapskate? Probably...
If we could really come up with such a thing, the first party the winner ought to sell it to is the yanks, who are trying to crack the problem of the battle droid as well... they'll be far more willing to pay a proper price for it.
And driving a car through the desert is probably harder especially when the vehicle has to detect the terrain and attempt to follow a path that will not lead to the vehicle toppling over. You have lots of sensors as well and real time processing is required. During the first competition, a lot of cars had a problem of either crashing or toppling over. I'm of the opinion that the latter is harder as the former doesn't have to worry too much about terrain especially when it is generally flat. Not least, sensor malfunctions due to the heat wasn't uncommon. Do note that for example, one of the winning cars which was by Stanford has as many as 7 Pentium M CPUs. What DSTA is demanding is far less ambitious than DARPA.
Also, as I have said before, 600K USD probably will come with a contract for a few robots so it won't be merely that paltry amount. -
For that budget here's a workable solution but it's not a robot
Get a weapon that fires ammunition that can go through thick concrete
Fix it with a imagery sensor that can see through walls
So if a terrorist is behind the wall he got nowhere to hide
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instead of trying to figure out how to operate the lift during the war (which most probably will be offline because of no power) its better to design one that can scale the HDB flat from outside. Using lift? lol. The robot doesnt have to assault all the way in, design it to scan room, peak around corner, throw flash bang or grenade.... so that human assault team that follow behind can enter with slightly low risk.
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Action speak louder than words. Anybody else taking part?
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It might be better to ask Sony to design this robot. But then, the price tag will be much higher. -
I think if anyone could built such thing, he or she might not be visiting SGforums from the start...
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wah lao who revive old thread.
Anyway, the point here is 1 million dollar for a workable -DESIGN-.
It's like buying an idea.
The finished product can be completely different.
Upscaled-downscaled even made to do other non mentioned mission simply because it's discovered being able to do it better after experiments. -
this thing can be built - of course it's not so simple that anyone can do it. for example, not everybody can take part in the olympics - I'm sure our SSC will also give out a million dollars to any singaporean who can get the gold medal.
I'm sure there are groups out there taking part but they are sure keeping a very low profile. -
can u reduce image size.
many still use dial up.it take pain to wait.... -
Still got people use dialup ah? That's sad, considering according to you Electronic Road Pricing was introduced in 1977, dun tell me we until not haven't advanced ah?Originally posted by lionnoisy:can u reduce image size.
many still use dial up.it take pain to wait.... -
the money is not the main motivation. It's just a measure of the commitment that DSTA has.
Read up on the DARPA challenge, there's a lot we could learn about it. Most are using COTS equipment augmented with inhouse software. -
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Originally posted by choonway:
dat time my lecturer was recruiting students to take part in tis contest.
