Beretta 92FS
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Late last year, I finally broke down and bought a Beretta 92FS handgun to add to my collection. I did not really need one, but CDNN Investments in Texas was closing them out at a ridiculously steep discount (over $200 less than what they generally go for retail) and I jumped at the opportunity!
Out of the box, the gun shot fine, but the sights were a wee bit off (the point of impact being about 4" left of the point of aim at 25 yards). A little 'quality time' with a sight adjustment tool fixed that.
I did a photo shoot of the 92FS yesterday for a firearms-related webzine, and thought I would share some of the pictures here:
The 92FS is currently the standard issue sidearm of the US Army, where it is designated the M9.
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YEs! CDNN! they use to come to DAllas gunshow but now have not done that for a while! they always have lots of neat stuff! I got my Druganov, Steyr SSG and some other knib knabs from them
Good price and good bunch of people.!
NIce Beretta 92! ...
DaveC! -
Thanks, Dave!Originally posted by davechng:YEs! CDNN! they use to come to DAllas gunshow but now have not done that for a while! they always have lots of neat stuff! I got my Druganov, Steyr SSG and some other knib knabs from them
Good price and good bunch of people.!
NIce Beretta 92! ...
DaveC!
I've ordered a ton of stuff from CDNN, including a number of guns too. Their prices are extremely reasonable and their $10 flat rate shipping sure sweetens the deal.
I'm thinking of getting an FNP-40 from them next. -
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I'm happy with my own gun.
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Hi Meia
HAve looked at the FNP-40! let me know how the gun is...did not see as much of these pistols around. ! they look very similar to the new S&W MP40.. get to shoot one of those afew weekends ago ! I was a bit horrified by the creep on the trigger ! Works and points good.
Am thinking about the Springfield armoury XD-40 tactical! I am currently using the GLock 35 but did not like the luger type angle and do prefer the 1911 angle! HAve shot the XD and felt the trigger was good! Except for the long reset! I think maybe we can work on the reset so as to have faster follow up shot.
MAn! you have a nice 92FS! did you refinish the pistol? I don;t recall Beretta having such nice finishing! I got a Elite 2 somtime ago! but had to let it go to finnance another project of mine. !
DaveC! -
You guys make me so damn envious of you and your toys! Damn! (Don't mind sharing how much you guys have invested in your babies)
Thanks,
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Wow... too bad I no license to carry gun.
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Hi, Dave!Originally posted by davechng:Hi Meia
HAve looked at the FNP-40! let me know how the gun is...did not see as much of these pistols around. ! they look very similar to the new S&W MP40.. get to shoot one of those afew weekends ago ! I was a bit horrified by the creep on the trigger ! Works and points good.
Am thinking about the Springfield armoury XD-40 tactical! I am currently using the GLock 35 but did not like the luger type angle and do prefer the 1911 angle! HAve shot the XD and felt the trigger was good! Except for the long reset! I think maybe we can work on the reset so as to have faster follow up shot.
MAn! you have a nice 92FS! did you refinish the pistol? I don;t recall Beretta having such nice finishing! I got a Elite 2 somtime ago! but had to let it go to finnance another project of mine. !
DaveC!
A good friend of mine has an FNP-9 (identical to the FNP-40, except chambered in 9mm) and I have shot it on many occasions. His FNP is box-stock and it has one of the best SA triggers I have ever come across in a DA/SA handgun. He was over at my house last year, and we measured the SA trigger break at just a hair under 3 lbs.
FN must have some pretty good lawyers working for them! Plus, his FNP was incredibly accurate--I was managing offhand sub-3" groups at 25 yards using commercial 9mm ammo; I expect the 40S&W version will be just as accurate.
(CDNN is selling the two-tone versions of both the FNP-9 and FNP-40 for just $409. That's a damn good deal!)
I don't think you'll regret getting the XD-40 Tactical. I've had one since July of 2002, and its accuracy is easily on par with that of the CZ pistols. I've thus far shot well over 25,000 rounds of my handloads through it, and it has never, ever jammed or misfed. The SA trigger pull weight can be reduced with the simple replacement of the sear tension spring (I have mine down to around 2.8 lbs.), but reducing the trigger reset will require some metalwork on the trigger mechanism.
Here's a picture my XD-40, taken at around 20,000 rounds. Still looks mint, doesn't it?
The 92FS pictured in the opening post is box stock; the differences in the appearance of the finish are probably due to variations in the lighting conditions.
By the way, have you sent you P-01 in for trigger work yet?
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If one were to tally up the cost of one's hobbies, the reality check would serve to severely diminish the 'fun' factor derived therefrom.Originally posted by SpecOps87:You guys make me so damn envious of you and your toys! Damn! (Don't mind sharing how much you guys have invested in your babies)
Thanks,
SpecOps87
Put another way, ignorance is bliss! But I'm sure Dave spends far in excess of what I do on firearms. -
Man and their toys! I started collecting guns when I 1st came to the US back in 1989! back than guns were cheap! STarted with a S&W Model 39 9mm pistol followed by a CHinese Type 56 SKS for $39.95. As the saying goes we just need ONE MORE gun! and I don;t look back after that...
Guns is a good investment over here in the US! the amount of Galil, AUG and assualt weapon I have collected .. all of them double to triple in my investments ! better than some stocks I have.
HI Meia
Anyway! thanks for the info on the FNP-40! I never thought they had such good triggers !defintely need to take a loook at it!... and the acrruacy you said is phenominal for a factory made pistols! I ahve not sent my P01 yet becasue i have spend too much again buying the piston upper M4 and I also bought me a few of those military surplus CZ-82 in 9x18 makarov! very good buy for now! I paid like $219 each and they are like new and come with holster, 2 12 rounds mags . shoot in a parculiar manner.
thats a nice XD40! do you like the tactical or the std 4" ones??
Hmm! i heard things about the finish of those black XD 40 that came off easily after wearing it holster! IS it better to buy the one that is stainless???
If you happen to come down to Dallas !give me a shout ! would be glad to bring you around here!
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Dave,
The XD's have historically had a very crappy finish on them. You could rub the finish off with just your fingers! When my XD-40 Tactical was delivered in July of 2002, parts of the finish had worn down to bare metal from just moving around in the plastic pistol case. I called Springfield about it and they refinished the slide under warranty.
Springfield finally responded to all the complaints about the finish when they introduced the XD-45ACP early last year. The XD-45ACP featured a very durable finish (called Melonite) on the slide, and Springfield adopted the same finish on the rest of their XD pistols manuactured from that point on. If you get an XD, make sure it was manufactured in 2006 or later. Alternatively, you could get one with a stainless slide (which, in my opinion, looks a lot sharper!).
If you do decide to send your P-01 to CZ-USA for trigger work, let me know and I'll talk to my contacts there to see if they can give your job a higher priority. -
Kool Meia!
I will let you know when I am ready for my CZ upgrade! ANything helps! so far only got me 4 of those Meggar 14 rd mags for the P01 from CDNN! boy were they tight fit to the gun! may have to sand them down a little to have a drop free action. do you have that problems??
AS for the XD! I will have to check on the mfg date! thanks for the tip! YEah! i hear a lot of complaints on the finish of the XD! So! I guess at least they address the problem! I will get me a new one ... Actually saw a USED XD 9mm tactical in the gunshow last weekend with 3 mags and all the holster for $399! I guess its worth to pay and get me the new ones! I think the new one is price at $469 in the gunshow! both the XD9 tactical and the XD40 Tactical.
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Meia
Very good photography, too!
Army types apparently complain about the 92F's 9mm lack of power. What's your take? -
Dave,Originally posted by davechng:Kool Meia!
I will let you know when I am ready for my CZ upgrade! ANything helps! so far only got me 4 of those Meggar 14 rd mags for the P01 from CDNN! boy were they tight fit to the gun! may have to sand them down a little to have a drop free action. do you have that problems??
DaveC!
CZ pistols come from the factory with the magazine brake (#24 in the parts diagram of the manual) at the back of the magwell bent to press against and retain the magazine, preventing it from dropping free when the mag release is pressed.
It's real easy to make the mags drop free: just remove the two bends in the magazine brake to straighten and prevent it from applying pressure to the rear of the magazine. You need to remove the brake from the gun to accomplish this:
1. Make sure the gun is unloaded.
2. Remove the grip panels.
3. Decock the hammer all the way forward (not just to the half-cock 'safety' position).
4. Drive out the magazine brake pin (#25).
5. While applying upward pressure on the main spring plug (#22), push out the main spring plug pin (#23).
6. Push and hold the main spring plug further up (this will require considerable effort as you're pushing against the main spring [#21]).
7. Remove the magazine brake by pulling it up and forward into the magwell.
8. Gradually release pressure on the main spring plug. The plug and main spring will fall out.
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Thanks!Originally posted by davechng:thats a nice XD40! do you like the tactical or the std 4" ones??
DaveC!
From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Tacticals, with their 5" barrels, always seemed better proportioned to me. The longer sight radius probably makes shooting them accurately a tad easier too.
Another nice thing about the Tacticals: they have uncaptured recoil guide rods and utilize standard full-size 1911 recoil springs, making it easy to fine-tune the recoil characteristics by using springs of different strengths. The XD-40 Tactical comes from the factory with an 18 lb. recoil spring, but I find it functions better with a 24 lb. spring (which is what I currently have in mine). -
man you live the good life over there...flying and shooting
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Thanks, moca!Originally posted by moca:Meia
Very good photography, too!
Army types apparently complain about the 92F's 9mm lack of power. What's your take?
I've read reports of soldiers in the sandbox complaining about the 9mm round not having enough "stopping power" vis-a-vis the 45ACP round of the 1911 that was the previous standard issue sidearm, but I don't know what's being done to address that issue. It's no secret that some soldiers are bringing their own personal sidearms (usually a 1911-type pistol chambered in 45ACP) into the battlefield. -
thanks for the tip on the mag release thing !I Will go do it.
the problem with the mmilitary is the stupid geneva convention thing that deny them to use good ammunition and only FMJ! the 9mm in FMJ just does not do the job well!
Got a few buddy of mine and they aquire their own pistols when they are in the sandbox! but they are not officially allowed to have their own weapon!
ON Patrol! he has a Kimber 1911 with his captured CHinese AKMS!
DaveC
