How F-5S compared with others?
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Wow lau ...... for a long long time - it been 2 planes lah !!!Originally posted by gd4u:Dun fighter jets usually flies in 4 ??
As jet age come along , planes burn out so fast that they will fly in pair , not 4 ........ -
i believe the correct term that should be used shoud be aformation of aircraft.
2 aircraft is usually called an element or a 2-ship
4 aircraft is a formation of 2 elements...
anything more would become a package i.e 2 or 3 or more formations of 4 aircraft. -
Its not hard and fast. A package can also be composed of a flight with just 2 ship.
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Btw, I just learnt that the RTAF termed their upgraded F-5E as the F-5T. Yes, the F-5T and it got nothing to do with the 2-seat F-5T that we know here.
The reason is simple = it is for the RTAF to differentiate their upgraded F-5E from the normal F-5E.
P/s The T (in RTAF terms) could be termed as 'Thai' (just like we termed the upgraded 'E' here as 'S') or as 'Tigres' (that is not a spelling error!) -
Although good aircraft , our F5s are really getting long in the tooth. Hope that they get replaced by more F16s in the near future.
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dun think so, we might be holding out for F-35s or rafales or even gripens kind of jets. Dun think we will be getting anymore vipers.
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you info very wrong... i know, but dun ask me how..Originally posted by gd4u:Hmm, well, heard tt whenever a lance of F-5 goes up ... only 1 plane avionics remains working ... and even sometimes, the avionics system on every F5 on flight can go down ... which, isiz tt quite scary ?? -
I agree that with RSKeisuke that gd4u's info is questionable. The scenerio seems to suggest that the reliability of the RSAF's warplanes are worse than even than the Central African Air Forces. This is too far fetched to believe.Originally posted by RSKeisuke:you info very wrong... i know, but dun ask me how.. -
Anyway, the F5s we have need replacement one day.
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I think we've been speculating that all the while. And it seems that it may be the F-15s. RSAF is likely to narrow down to 2 frontline aircraft type it seems.
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How about A tychoon for SG or sleath bomber?
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F15s to replace F5s ? Seems implausible. F5s are light weight air defence fighters.
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there's no need to buy a light weight air defence fighter to replace another light weight air defence fighter. In this day and age, most modern fighters are multi-role. Also, because of added capability and better weapons, you don't need to replace fighter for fighter. looking at the trend, most airforces are reducing their number of fighters simply because new fighters are expensive. however, with the high cost comes much improved capabilities that doesn't require the same number of aircraft.
having both f15 and f16s, which are both capable of OCA and DCA missions, allows flexibility in mission planning and asset allocation. more often than not, since modern aircraft have precision guided munition capability, you see them being allocated missions based on weapon types that they can carry rather than capability. -
seems impossible but the truth is our A-4 is being replace by F-15SGOriginally posted by glock:F15s to replace F5s ? Seems implausible. F5s are light weight air defence fighters. -
Why cant a heavy-weight fighter replaces a light-weight 1
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Sooner or later, the AD role will fall primarily to the F-16Cs, not Ds. The block 52 Cs is still more or less in the Light-medium weight category with CAT 1 stores.
The F-15SG aren't cheap to fly. U got 2 engines to maintain. If u think of it that way, single engine fighters are cheaper peace-time patrollers to maintain. LOL!
But I'll leave it to the Senior Air Techs to contest this. -
I say F15 to replace F5 is implausible not because the F15 is a heavy weight but that one wud think of an F15 C air superiority variant to replace a F5 which is a light weight air defence fighter.
And, it will make no sense to operate an air superiority version of the F15 as it is based on 70's design technology & that there will be no more development work for this version. The F 22 will do the F 15C s job in the future.
A better bet will be a Typhoon ( definitely not lightweight but lighter than a F 15 C ) or more F16s for the AD role. Unless we wait for the F35 which probably be at least 10 years away. -
How about F-35 replace for the F-5S
I read someplace saying they are Going to procure F-35s by 2015 ? -
The acquisition of new fighter is likely to be based on what new capabilities that the RSAF want to get their hands on. The air force should have a whole spectrum of operational roles to be filled whether for peacetime or contingencies, for the present and the future. As the F5 approaches its end of life, RSAF will need to reassign fighters to fill the roles vacated by the F5, could be F16 or F15 or both or other fighters. At the same time we need to ponder on what new capabilities/technology are out there for us to employ on future platforms.
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The latest issue of the Air Forces Monthly, a British military aviation magazine, features a small but clear picture of a RTAF F-5E armed with Israeli Python 4 air-to-air missiles on page 74.
You can see Thai F-5s armed with a laser-guided bomb and Python 3 AAMs in the links below.
http://www.wing7.rtaf.mi.th/mission.html
http://www.wing21.rtaf.mi.th/gallery/pages/f5_031.html
Cheers,
Sunho -
I believe that's the Python 3 under the wings....Originally posted by datafuser:The latest issue of the Air Forces Monthly, a British military aviation magazine, features a small but clear picture of a RTAF F-5E armed with Israeli Python 4 air-to-air missiles on page 74.
You can see Thai F-5s armed with a laser-guided bomb and Python 3 AAMs in the links below.
http://www.wing7.rtaf.mi.th/mission.html
http://www.wing21.rtaf.mi.th/gallery/pages/f5_031.html
Cheers,
Sunho -
Yep, looks like a Python3 alright..Originally posted by warspite:I believe that's the Python 3 under the wings.... -
The picture of the Thai F-5E carrying Python 4 AAMs is not yet available on the internet. However you can see it on the page 74 of the Air Forces Monthly.Originally posted by warspite:I believe that's the Python 3 under the wings....
Cheers,
Sunho -
hazi.... we may have the best hardware but what for when the planner... ... ...
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But there is already a pic of Chilean F-5 carrying Python 4s:Originally posted by datafuser:...picture of the Thai F-5E carrying Python 4 AAMs is not yet available on the internet..