North Korea invades the South, What to do?
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Jan 7, 2007, all talks to persuade North Korea to stop its nuclear weapons program fail. America and Japan came up with a series of sanctions, North Korea responded with another underground nuclear test on Jan 10.
US intelligence confirmed that North Korea is not ready to use any nuclear weapon (not possibility of a nuclear war), and decide to carry out first strike against their nuclear facilities.
Jan 15, 2007, North Korea army marched across 38th parallel, ....
UN in an emergency meeting passed resolution to condemn the invasion, and call on all friendly nations to join in the fight against North Korea, a UN military coalition is formed....but,
China and Russia, though join in the condemnation, promise material supplies, humanity assistance but no troops. For nationalist reason, no Japanese troops allowed on the Korean pennisular, but Japan opens all military facilities to be used by the allied coalition.
What will Singapore do?
1. send in medical and comms units.
2. plus warships for naval blockade.
3. plus a squadron of F16 to strike against invading forces.
are we prepared to commit land fighting forces?
are we ready to fight in such severe weather conditions?
to really make a difference, what size of land forces should we send?
what are the problems we might face if we fight alongside an international forces?
hope this is just a paper discussion. -
We got NS people dieing from IPPTs and 2.4km liao, u want SAF to sent troops to North Korea to fight a war?
Are u high on drugs or not?
Besides Singapore's military spending is the highest in South-East Asia with the most number of deployable man. Lets say what did our ultra high military budget and huge SAF conscripted manpower did to the stability of SEA in the past 40 years?
aid in vietnam war? no?
help aceh disasters? yeah
overthrow khemer rule? no?
aid in thai south insurgence? no?
i think lets adopt a sit and watch atitude, and whoever comes on victors from the war, we will send a congratulatory card loh... -
It's a legitimate discussion from the point of view of military strategy. It will help us discuss more on what we think may happen, and what potential solutions can be found.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:We got NS people dieing from IPPTs and 2.4km liao, u want SAF to sent troops to North Korea to fight a war?
Are u high on drugs or not?
I do this in school very often. We had a few brainstorming sessions where we used wargames to attempt to understand why certain nations or groups are motivated to start a conflict, and what are the incentives for them to end low-intensity conflicts.
Previously, we split up the entire class into two sides, with a scenario controller. It was quite an interesting exercise. -
Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:We got NS people dieing from IPPTs and 2.4km liao, u want SAF to sent troops to North Korea to fight a war?
Are u high on drugs or not?
can be blamed.. i've seen some fat richie lads overweight until 104kg still continue to eat and sleep in their 3 storey bungalow everyday..wunt even step out of their "palace". -
edited my text for further explanation. lets hear from other scenarios. but i say singapore would just verbally support.Originally posted by LazerLordz:It's a legitimate discussion from the point of view of military strategy. It will help us discuss more on what we think may happen, and what potential solutions can be found.
I do this in school very often. We had a few brainstorming sessions where we used wargames to attempt to understand why certain nations or groups are motivated to start a conflict, and what are the incentives for them to end low-intensity conflicts.
Previously, we split up the entire class into two sides, with a scenario controller. It was quite an interesting exercise. -
I would say send in medical teams and engineers.Perhaps a couple of C130s and Chinooks to aid abit.
But the rest, Naval Forces, SF Units and others should all be kept at home. You never know what sort of stunts the neighbours or tangos may try when presented with such an opportunity in the form of a destabilizing crisis in the Asian theater. So definitely, some assets go to S.Korea/Japan to help in the publicity but nothing else. The rest should remain in SG on a heightened state of alert. -
the way you put it...Originally posted by SpecOps87:I would say send in medical teams and engineers.Perhaps a couple of C130s and Chinooks to aid abit.
But the rest, Naval Forces, SF Units and others should all be kept at home. You never know what sort of stunts the neighbours or tangos may try when presented with such an opportunity in the form of a destabilizing crisis in the Asian theater. So definitely, some assets go to S.Korea/Japan to help in the publicity but nothing else. The rest should remain in SG on a heightened state of alert.
seems like......
world war 3 is approaching. -
Or perhapes we won't do anything at all. Remember Teo Chee Hean has already stated that our main focus is on the region. We didn't even send peeps into a "lukewarm" region like Lebanon, what more a hot and positively burning region like NK?
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medical support uh...
not much...but enuff to make a difference....
airlift a CSH?....i'd like to see that happening.... -
But thats probably what 180s countries in the rest of the world would offer too. if the US gets so much "help", i think they would be more selective and choose an organisation that would best suit their interest and organisation right? probably countries like Japan,Britain or France would jump to aid them.Originally posted by SpecOps87:I would say send in medical teams and engineers.Perhaps a couple of C130s and Chinooks to aid abit.
But the rest, Naval Forces, SF Units and others should all be kept at home. You never know what sort of stunts the neighbours or tangos may try when presented with such an opportunity in the form of a destabilizing crisis in the Asian theater. So definitely, some assets go to S.Korea/Japan to help in the publicity but nothing else. The rest should remain in SG on a heightened state of alert.
beside, USA themselves already have a formidable support groups. and theres always the backig of UN.
i would say SAF would send these "support" groups, USA would accept, but would probably allocate SAF "support" to some less important backwater stations.
and SAF would probably aid USA through a 3rd party, e.g. UN. That is to prevent Singapore from getting too direct on the war.
in other words, wanna help, also kenna rejected by allies. wanna help, also will not help directly, have to go thru 3rd party. wanna help, also dare not help fully, and let our local media paint a rosy picture of ourselves on our local news. -
This is because Lebanon's instability did not present itself as a first-tier or second-tier threat to our security.Originally posted by fallin:Or perhapes we won't do anything at all. Remember Teo Chee Hean has already stated that our main focus is on the region. We didn't even send peeps into a "lukewarm" region like Lebanon, what more a hot and positively burning region like NK?
However, if a war were to take place in Asia, it would be quite differently. Even without overseas deployment in assistance, I'd think it would be quite natural for our assets to patrol more aggressively in the South China Sea.
Any military involvement would most likely be under an UN authority, and only so if deploying would help to lower the threatcon we might be in. -
This i agree. Its an incident which is developing in our own backyard. Of course we will sleep with a shotgun under our pillows and with one eye open.Originally posted by LazerLordz:However, if a war were to take place in Asia, it would be quite differently. Even without overseas deployment in assistance, I'd think it would be quite natural for our assets to patrol more aggressively in the South China Sea. -
send the same 2 nukes (fat man2 and little boy2 ) again and bomb the capital of north korea to settle this once and for all, -
Originally posted by kenn3th:
send the same 2 nukes (fat man2 and little boy2 ) again and bomb the capital of north korea to settle this once and for all, why bother.A few fuel-air enriched bombs will do. -
I don't believe that we'll send anyone while the battle is still hot. The SAF is highly allergic to having its people killed unnecessarily. We do not fight the wars of others. Unless, of course, if it directly threatens us in some way that demands that the SAF does something to protect Singapore.
It would be more likely that, as others have said, we would send support, medical and logistics personnel to Japan to aid in the effort. Meanwhile, we would increase our own readiness level back home and put all available active units on standby and to be prepared to mobilise all reservists if need be. -
Agreed. I would add that we might contribute too, through blockading shipments bound for NK that pass through our Straits.Originally posted by fudgester:I don't believe that we'll send anyone while the battle is still hot. The SAF is highly allergic to having its people killed unnecessarily. We do not fight the wars of others. Unless, of course, if it directly threatens us in some way that demands that the SAF does something to protect Singapore.
It would be more likely that, as others have said, we would send support, medical and logistics personnel to Japan to aid in the effort. Meanwhile, we would increase our own readiness level back home and put all available active units on standby and to be prepared to mobilise all reservists if need be. -
Though we pray and hope for peace, it is best we prepare to pay the price of it by being on a war footing in such a crisis.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:the way you put it...
seems like......
world war 3 is approaching. -
Originally posted by LazerLordz:
Mind telling me what school is that? Sounds like my kind of education!
It's a legitimate discussion from the point of view of military strategy. It will help us discuss more on what we think may happen, and what potential solutions can be found.
I do this in school very often. We had a few brainstorming sessions where we used wargames to attempt to understand why certain nations or groups are motivated to start a conflict, and what are the incentives for them to end low-intensity conflicts.
Previously, we split up the entire class into two sides, with a scenario controller. It was quite an interesting exercise.
Is it at the recently renamed IDSS, nowcalled RSIS at NTU?
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/rsis/ -
Nah, not IDSS.Originally posted by tankee1981:Mind telling me what school is that? Sounds like my kind of education!
Is it at the recently renamed IDSS, nowcalled RSIS at NTU?
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/rsis/
PMed you. -
The most probable action taken will be a statement condemning the attack in line with the UN and perhaps send in medical support and one LST to support the operations. There's a very low chance that the fighters might be sent in but I doubt they'll even think of sending troops so all you slackers can rest easy.
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Well, you guys should go to youtube.com and watch behind enemy lines 2. It somewad stimulate the North Korea attacking with a Nuke to US. Very interesting show.
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I prefer if the Allied resort to another Cold War
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look to the east or west for help.what else?
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Well, let's take it this way, If North Korea attacks South Korea, they will have their Artillery firing at Seoul, that will kill many civillians. It is also know that the North has much of it's troops along the 38th Parallel, so they would sure be a sudden rush of invasion along the whole border, that itseld would be a problem. And if China and Russia were to help with Logistic and weapons stuff, the North could be advancing very rapidly and taking control of the South very fast.
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But seriously, although its part of the scenario, I find it very hard to believe that China will sit back and shake leg if NK invades South Korea.