US Marine infantry Vs US army infantry
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which is better???
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I have no idea about the infantry ... but one thing's for sure, combat service support side marines are better infantrymen than their army counterparts ....
even marine drivers and clerks have to go for regular field exercises to refresh their basic riflemen skills, and the US army experience in the 2003 invasion showed this is a wise move (remember jessica lynch guys ? )
now I wonder how our CSS people will fight ? .... -
marine...more power...they have more duty,well trained to go on land n sea..
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In the USMC,even if you are a medical doctor,you are firstly an infantryman secondly a doctor.If you are a clerk,you are firstly an infantryman,secondly a clerk etc etc...Originally posted by Fatum:I have no idea about the infantry ... but one thing's for sure, combat service support side marines are better infantrymen than their army counterparts ....
even marine drivers and clerks have to go for regular field exercises to refresh their basic riflemen skills, and the US army experience in the 2003 invasion showed this is a wise move (remember jessica lynch guys ? )
now I wonder how our CSS people will fight ? .... -
marines hands down. Recently bought the book MARINES-a guided tour into a marine expeditionary unit by Tom Clancy. A real eye opener
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Haha,i read that last millenium.Originally posted by Hellraiza:marines hands down. Recently bought the book MARINES-a guided tour into a marine expeditionary unit by Tom Clancy. A real eye opener
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Like they said..every marine is a rifleman. Even their shooting proficiency are displayed in their uniforms.
I like their fundamentals, very basic and yet forward thinking. All cut from the same cloth.
Also, I think their entry criteria is higher than the army's. -
US Marines is sent to invade the country coastlines first, and establish the base before main reinforement of US Army arrive to take up position. However, US Marines air support is not as great as that of US Army.(US Marines standard combat helicopter is Super Cobra whereas US Army used Apache... )
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u sure last millenium? wah u must be damn old....oldest human alive in fact. lolOriginally posted by Marco_Simone:Haha,i read that last millenium. -
US Marines is sent to invade the country coastlines first, and establish the base before main reinforement of US Army arrive to take up position. However, US Marines air support is not as great as that of US Army.(US Marines standard combat helicopter is Super Cobra whereas US Army used Apache... )
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But Their Super Cobras are Super Upgraded Just like the Apache... -
If thats the case, why is it that it was the US Army and not the Marines that rushed down the beaches of Normandy during D-Day? Was the entire Marine Corp occupied in the Pacific?Originally posted by fkh:US Marines is sent to invade the country coastlines first, and establish the base before main reinforement of US Army arrive to take up position. However, US Marines air support is not as great as that of US Army.(US Marines standard combat helicopter is Super Cobra whereas US Army used Apache... ) -
If i'm not wrong, the marines is an entire service by itself, independent of the Army, Navy or Airforce, heck it even has its own air corps.However it is always commonly mistaken as the little brother of the Navy
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He could have read it in 1999, and that was the last millenium.Originally posted by Hellraiza:u sure last millenium? wah u must be damn old....oldest human alive in fact. lol -
i think that is quite trueOriginally posted by orionlight:If i'm not wrong, the marines is an entire service by itself, independent of the Army, Navy or Airforce, heck it even has its own air corps.However it is always commonly mistaken as the little brother of the Navy -
sorry... the Marines IS part of the Navy... although there is a Marine General in the Higher HQ level together with the other service chiefOriginally posted by orionlight:If i'm not wrong, the marines is an entire service by itself, independent of the Army, Navy or Airforce, heck it even has its own air corps.However it is always commonly mistaken as the little brother of the Navy -
The United States Armed Forces is structured into five branches consisting of the:
* United States Army
* United States Navy
* United States Marine Corps
* United States Air Force
* United States Coast Guard
The marine corps and the Navy are in the Department of Navy, while the army and air force have their own dept. All of them in turn fall under the Dept of Defense.
USCG falls under the Dept of Homeland Security. HOwever, in times of war can be drafted into the department of Navy also.
THe marine corps are a mobile force. They are an armed force within a armed force.
They have their own aircraft, fixed wing and rotor wing like the F/A 18, Harrier, the V22 osprey, the super cobra and the upgraded huey..
Armoured vehicles, including the same M1 and Humvees which the army uses and other unique vehicles like the amphibious vehicles and HIMARS
They are infact bigger than alot of other countries armed forces as a whole including singapore... -
Yes in fact the whole marine corp is mobilised to reconquer the whole pacific region! The numerous operation D-Day in the pacific was entirely carried out by the marines, such as the battle in the guandacanal, tarawa so on and so forthOriginally posted by fallin:If thats the case, why is it that it was the US Army and not the Marines that rushed down the beaches of Normandy during D-Day? Was the entire Marine Corp occupied in the Pacific? -
Yeah, Super Cobras can carry up to 16 Hellfires , 2 rocket pods and there is even provisions to carry 2 Air to Air Missiles, but it is not as heavily armoured as Apache.. Apache can carry 1200 ammo rounds , and Cobras can carry only 700 ammos.
As for the question why it was the US Army who breached the Normandy during WW2. That's because US Army has the bases in Europe..When US joined WW2 on the side of Allies, US Army sent soldiers to friendly European countries , and stationed themselves there until D-day comes( invasion of Normandy).
To invade the country with coastlines which is far away from US allies , US Marines send USS Tarawa, ( amphidious Assault ship which look like mini carrier , with landing crafts , tanks, Harriers, Cobras, Chinooks, APCs, Light Artillery and a battalion of Marines ) .
From US aircraft carrier, US Navy send Prowlers, and Hornets to disable air defence and coastal defence.
From the USS Tarawa, US Marines sent soldiers and equipments to enemy coastlines ,using the landing crafts and transport helos, with Cobras and Harriers providing air supports.
When they reach enemy coastlines, they clear enemy resistance and set up bases and run ways ( for bigger aircrafts) and then main reinforcement of US Army comes and station themselves there.. -
During the times of war, when US Marines is at seas, it was subordinate to US Navy, and When US Marines is on lands, it is under US Army Command..Originally posted by orionlight:If i'm not wrong, the marines is an entire service by itself, independent of the Army, Navy or Airforce, heck it even has its own air corps.However it is always commonly mistaken as the little brother of the Navy
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I read it in 1996 when it was out.Originally posted by Marco_Simone:Haha,i read that last millenium. -
Originally posted by spencer99:sorry... the Marines IS part of the Navy... although there is a Marine General in the Higher HQ level together with the other service chief
During the times of war, when US Marines is at seas, it was subordinate to US Navy, and When US Marines is on lands, it is under US Army Command..
Thanks for the heads up. -
infantry are infantry
marines are spec ops capable troops...but not spec ops parse....
they are juz capable to do spec ops stuff
infantry are juz that...leg units.. -
The marines do not have a medical corp, they second corpmen and doctors from the navy...Originally posted by Marco_Simone:In the USMC,even if you are a medical doctor,you are firstly an infantryman secondly a doctor.If you are a clerk,you are firstly an infantryman,secondly a clerk etc etc... -
The Marines original Role was to Protect and Board Ships during the 19th Century... The British do have Marines too...The Royal Marines....
Maybe over the years they expanded the organization... Now its more of another fighting arm in their Armed Forces...
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USCG falls under the Dept of Homeland Security. HOwever, in times of war can be drafted into the department of Navy also.
So does their National Guard under the Army... Most of the Infantry Divisions During WW2 in Normandy comes from the National Guard..