Malaysian infantry weapons
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Recently found an interesting pic from the Malaysian Cari forum. It features the infantry weapons used by their PALAPES. PALAPES units (Reserve Officers Training Units - ROTU) are formed at 12 universities and institutes of higher education to facilitate the recruitment of graduate officers.
There are 6 weapons in the picture,1x 84mm, 2x M16s, 1x GMPG(at the lower left side of pic), 1x BAR!!! and an unidentified light green tube which i assume is a Armbrust-like weapon.
I am surprised that they are still using the BAR (someone pls help me to verify this) which is used by the US troops in WW2! Anyone know whether they are used for their active troops as well or more for the reserves.
Can anyone verify what is the green tube which the guy is holding? Thanks
PALAPES: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejimen_Askar_Wataniah
M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Automatic_Rifle
http://tri.army.mil/LC/cs/csi/m1918bar.jpg -
BAR? On the left,that's not a BAR. It's a H&K family LMG/rifle with bipod.
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i can't see the photos but i bet its an HK11A1. try google and compare. -
as for the light green tube, my take is its an instalaza C90 disposable rocket launcher. an older weapon possible relegated to the second liners. -
just managed to see the photo. yes, its an HK11A1 whilst the green tube is not the C90. its a mortar. -
STANDARD ISSUE INFANTRY WEAPONS
STEYR AUG A11
Colt M16A1/M203
CAR 15
HK MP5SD/A2
FN MINIMI PARA LMG
HK 11A1 LMG
FN MAG 58
M60A2
MILKOR MGL MK1
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Originally posted by tankee1981:
I saw that pic you were talking about, too.
STANDARD ISSUE INFANTRY WEAPONS
[b]HK 11A1 LMG
M60A2
http://www.answers.com/topic/malaysian-army[/b]
But HK 11A1? Are you able to find a pic of such a weapon?
When you google there are a lot of sites that have the words HK 11A1 but no one actually has a pic of it. The one small pic found in a Russian website I saw looked like a HK 21. (7.62mm) GPMG.
Here is the HK 21 from Modern Firearms.
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i think i have second thoughts about that green tube being a mortar...
could be your next door plumbing pipe for all its worth ... -
have a look at this url for a photo of the hk11a1.
http://members.tripod.com/~gerak_khas/hk11.htm
its a favorite squad auto weapon for the malaysia infantry due to its robustness. fires 7.62mm rounds and can be belt fed.
its being replaced by the 5.56mm minimi for frontline units. -
From the pic i can understand why it is considered robust! It looks heavy too, i will still prefer my Ultimax. Btw whats the latest version of the Ultimax in our infantry now?Originally posted by ferryman2393:have a look at this url for a photo of the hk11a1.
http://members.tripod.com/~gerak_khas/hk11.htm
its a favorite squad auto weapon for the malaysia infantry due to its robustness. fires 7.62mm rounds and can be belt fed.
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Finally found a picture of the HK 11.
It is a non-belt-fed 7.62mm SAW. Basically a heavy barrel assault rifle with bi-pod and quick change barrel.
This would put it in the same class as heavy-barrel M-14 and M-16 tried out for the SAW role.
Both didn't work and US adapted the 7.62mm M60 MG for SAW until the arrival of the FN Minimi. -
can show singapore weapon?haha..i m curious man..
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Since we are at it, why don't we provide a list of small arms used by the different parts of MAF? i understand that some of their weapons are quite old so will be an educational treat for us all.
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I suspect that anything older will all be old British equipment. Nothing you don't already know.Originally posted by tankee1981:Since we are at it, why don't we provide a list of small arms used by the different parts of MAF? i understand that some of their weapons are quite old so will be an educational treat for us all.
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Ah...someone with the same doubts as me...Originally posted by moca:
I suspect that anything older will all be old British equipment. Nothing you don't already know.I am curious, does any of you know of a certain MBT the MAF is supposed to have had before the PT-91?
I suspect they already have the Ukrainian T-84 before this purchase of PT-91M. Reason being their Deftech is a technology partner with the Ukrainian company over the T-84. Their advertisments are almost always on every issue of the AD&D magazine. Another reason being i personally have heard from my Encik saying something about the Malaysians having T-72s when i am still a NSF. At that time, there is no news of Malaysia planning to get the PT-91M from Poland! -
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they dont look garang lei
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This could be the reason why...Originally posted by leo-kun:they dont look garang lei Originally posted by tankee1981
This makes them sort of like our NCC but for undergraduates.
PALAPES units (Reserve Officers Training Units - ROTU) are formed at 12 universities and institutes of higher education to facilitate the recruitment of graduate officers. -
Uhh..tankee..that T-84 is just a 'sample' used by Deftech to promote the tank to the Malaysian Army. Whilst it sports the Malaysian flag and IIRC Malaysian camo, it has never been inducted by the Army...Originally posted by tankee1981:Ah...someone with the same doubts as me...
I suspect they already have the Ukrainian T-84 before this purchase of PT-91M. -
They are more like the US ROTC. The Malaysian equivalent of the Singaporean NCC is the PKBM.Originally posted by tankee1981:This makes them sort of like our NCC but for undergraduates. -
You are right. But thats not the whole story. Allow me to explain.Originally posted by khyron1:Uhh..tankee..that T-84 is just a 'sample' used by Deftech to promote the tank to the Malaysian Army. Whilst it sports the Malaysian flag and IIRC Malaysian camo, it has never been inducted by the Army...
Yes, the T-84 is being tested by the Malaysian Army, much like what they did with the Polish PT-91 before eventually deciding to purchase them.
Now why i suspect that they already have T-84 before purchasing the PT-91M is because Deftech is a technology partner with the Polish defence company for T-84. Secondly, i have heard rumours that Malaysia operate T-72 tanks during my NSF time which is way before they announce they are buying the PT-91M. If not hard to realise that the T-84 looks remarkably similar to T-72. Therefore i suspect that they already have the T-84.
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wonder why the MAlaysian switch from the AUG to the M4! they must not have liked the AUG that much to change.
I personelly think the AUG is kind of fragile! Heard anything news why they decided to retire the AUG??
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malaysia don't and never have t-72. same with t-84.
some army people claimed the steyr in the army is prone to stoppages. continuous firing of more than 2-3 mags, will lead to stoppages. so they claim.
why m4? maybe because its short. maybe because they want the soldiers to get close with the enemy. its a first significant procurement of US make since the hornets (barring the AMRAAM). -
Actually the best person to answer is Spiderweb, whom is an expert on SEA armies.Originally posted by davechng:wonder why the MAlaysian switch from the AUG to the M4! they must not have liked the AUG that much to change.
I personelly think the AUG is kind of fragile! Heard anything news why they decided to retire the AUG??
DaveC!
I do remember reading an interview where a Malaysian Army officer said that the M4 is more modern cos it allows for fitting of gadgets and scopes etc and will make the army look more modern and professional.
Well, I envy them cos I think bullpups su.ck.
