US vs Rest of the world.
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Well, americans like the idea that their forces can never be defeated, so what happen if the entire world is turned against the US? Including their allies like the UK, germany and canada.
Will the rest of the world be able to invade mainland US and defeat their forces? Let's say both side cannot use nukes, to ensure the world is still habitable.
I posted this on another web site, well let's say almost everyone is arguing that the USN can easily destroy the rest of the world navy and be able to attack their land.
http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=111116
Can you guys try reasoning with them? I highly doubt the US is strong enough to defeat the rest of the world without nukes and standing alone... -
I only know that US is powerful then the next other powers combined
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U.S carriers will never stand a chance against ALL e A212/214, Gotlands, Akula II, n China's subs even our subs had been able 2 lock on their carrier before
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The thing is, theres a difference between conquering a place and actually effectively governing and controlling an area. I'm not sure if the US can conquer the rest of the world, but I am sure of they will not be to handle a worldwide partisan uprising.
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I'd like to ask, in this scenario does US public opinion still hold as much leverage on politics as it does in real life?
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No, even now i think it will be a tough fight should China engage the US alone. I'm not sure about the PLAN capabilities to launch a land invasion of the US but i can say that the US will be severely whacked and their economy might just crumble (which it already is slowly...)
China may not have the best weapons, but they certainly do have the numbers. Just like Vietnam, the people didnt have an advanced airforce yet they could still deal lethal blows to the US armed forces. Now if the EU backs China up. GG for US. ICBMs with conventional warheads will start flying. how many can their patriots block?
If the US does have a very strong economy to back up its war efforts against the world in this Simulation, The US have indeed a very advanced fighting force and might suprise some of us of its capabilities.
Assuming that the US and the Rest of the world have adequate resources to sustain the war effort, the US can really put up a fight for some time. Ultimately it will be a numbers game. Who has more will win. Certainly a few hundred million people versus 1 billion ppl the outcome could be quite obvious. -
That depends if US is willing to break secrecy and deploy stuff still in Skunk Works..
Their level of energy weaponry expertise is scary. Just remember that what they have deployed today, are stuff developed in the late 70s and early 80s. -
If this scenario were to ever unfold, the US can be defeated. However, don't expect a blitzkrieg on American soil - the more likely scenario is that it will be a slow and really, really bloody battle of attrition.
That is, of course, if only conventional weapons are used. If it goes into an all-out nuclear exchange.....
*shudders*
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It is not possible for US to handle so many foes
If you have Fleet Command games, you can create a scenario DIY games where all the foes (Russia, China, UK, Frances, Germany etc...) vs US..
I am sure USN carrier groups cannot handle so many anti-ships missiles launched by other naval forces.. -
Then again, there's the issue of logistics and coordination between all of the US's foes.Originally posted by fkh:It is not possible for US to handle so many foes
If you have Fleet Command games, you can create a scenario DIY games where all the foes (Russia, China, UK, Frances, Germany etc...) vs US..
I am sure USN carrier groups cannot handle so many anti-ships missiles launched by other naval forces..
I remember reading somewhere that the entire battleplan for Operation Overlord back in WWII was an A4-sized binder five inches thick. If storming five French beaches can be so problematic, surely to storm the US Eastern Seaboard with a much greater variety of forces with totally different logistical needs would be much worse. -
The USA has 2 oceans to buffer it from land invasion forces. Sending hundreds of thousands of troops (or millions) across these 2 huge spans of water to assemble in Canada or Mexico would be a logistical nightmare. Not to mention coordination among all these nation's troops.
With our extensively connected global economy, every nation will face economic ruin if such a world war were to take place. So such a Rest of the World vs USA war won't happen. -
Technically, US will not face ROTW alone ... NATO will have to come into the picture first .... And with US forces almost all over the world ... It is difficult to kick their as$ hard ...
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To get to US, u need to cross the oceans. To cross the oceans, u need to get thru their navy and air force. To get thru their ships and fighters, u need to either sink them or have them run out of fuel. To have them run out of fuel.... U need control of OIL.
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Actually, the Russians could always cross over via the Bering strait which is close enough to warrant thinking about an underground tunnel connecting the two coasts.
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Err...even their NATO allies is against them in this scenario...
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In todayÂ’s interlocked world, Who can Vs the world alone?
Yes, the Big Sammie got some fine stuffs but people keep forgetting no matter how good you stuff is, your one is still made from humble parts.
Nowadays China Auto industrial is eating into US auto heartland, the news reported by ST not long ago is China Auto parts industries is eyeing FordÂ’s parts section for a possible take-over. Even a M1 Abrams Tank is with 12-14% parts made in China as some reports claimed.
ThatÂ’s only China along, how about other countries? Taking out a single PCB board or bolt, the state of art soon becomes just a piece of dead metal.
CHINAÂ’S IMPACT ON THE U.S. AUTO AND AUTO PARTS INDUSTRIES -
US can be defeated by terrorism, psychological warfare and computer virus..
Iran said US can be defeated thru terrorism and psychological warfare..
You can simply send a few terrorists to wreck havoc in US , and the use of mass media to influence the minds of voters ..
Computer virus can wreck havoc in US military hardwares. -
a properly placed bomb at certain areas in the US is much more fear infusing than wanton bombings and massive assaults..Originally posted by fkh:US can be defeated by terrorism, psychological warfare and computer virus..
Iran said US can be defeated thru terrorism and psychological warfare..
You can simply send a few terrorists to wreck havoc in US , and the use of mass media to influence the minds of voters ..
Computer virus can wreck havoc in US military hardwares. -
TIA.
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Actually the most powerful weapon in the world is not EMP bombs, Nukes, Thermobaric bombs. Its the Media.
You control the media, you control the society.
Look at Israel, why does western media view so highly of them? Ans: They pay 3 or 4 top American PR firms to publicise for them. And the western world supports them.
So technically US is still the major media powerhouse but the bigger you are, the easier it is for you to crumble. Yup just send terrorists to infiltrate the media and the walls come falling down.
Anyone remembers V for Vendetta? when V broadcasted his message to England. -
For conventional all out warfare, US is way ahead of everyone else.
However, the mighty US war machine grinds to a halt when enemy adopts long term war of attrition using unconventional tactics eg guerilla tactics -
if US managed to hold out the initial attackes ( which i highly doubt so due to the sheer number of forces), if may have a chance. Because US is attacking alliances and alliances are the easiest to attack due to communication and understanding. That is why many countries have annual military exercises with their neighbours---- to resolve that understanding and conflicts in times of war.