Which Terrorist Organisation is the world's most powerful?
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Cannot...because the US Army doesnt belong to the GOPOriginally posted by the Bear:can i call the GOP a terrorist organisation?
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that makes them even more powerful!
borrow sword to kill people -
I agree with ur points. I guess the main difference btwn LTTE and the rest of the labelled terrorist organisations is that they do govern the land they have captured.Originally posted by fallin:This actually makes me wonder what exactly defines a terrorist? Actually, the LTTE doesnt really fit into the traditional image of a terrorist organization. To me, a terrorist organization are people that have to hide to carry their activites. A people that cannot openly stand up against government forces. But the LTTE seems to be doing a pretty good job against the Sri Lankans. When was the last time you actually saw a terrorist organization actually conquering and governing territory. To my limited extent of knowledge, I don't think I've ever seen it happening else where. It might not be entirely correct to classify the LTTE as a terrorist organisation. More like a secessionist movement.
OT abit to define what is a terrorist group?
Lets compare LTTE to the Palestinians.
Motive and goal for LTTE: Originally fighting for a seperate state.
after 2002 decided to fight for self-government since the Sri Lankan Sinhalese govt refuses.
Situation: Sri Lankan government presses on with nationalism of sinhalese while neglecting tamils. Hence LTTE was formed (long story short)
Tamils negotiate with government. Fails. LTTE formed and violence erupts. Captures territories and governs them.
Motive & Goal for palestinians: Fighting for their homeland and a palestinian state
Ever since the formation of the Jewish state, violence ensues till this very day with rocket attacks on Jewis settlements and in turn gets bombarded by israeli helicopters and fighter jets. Angered by the creation of that very state, militant groups are formed to resist Israel and to get back what they were supposed to have (can be disputed, but historically they had a state)
Peace between Palestinians and Israel is shaky until today especially after Hamas got into power.
If you are them, do you think its fair for your government to labelled terrorists?
What constitutes to being a terrorist? And what gives the US and UK to label others terrorists?
P.S. Everytime the UK leaves its former colonies, they always screw up.
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It's not just the Brits who screwed up their former colonies.Originally posted by storm_freaky13:P.S. Everytime the UK leaves its former colonies, they always screw up. eg.
The Belgians, for instance, really screwed Rwanda up by enacting policies that suppress the majority Hutu while favouring the minority Tutsi. Heck, they enacted those policies via the Tutsi, which further drove a wedge between the two groups.
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Actually its most Colonial masters that do that.
So can we call them terrorists?
To my limited knowledge, the only Colonial master that didnt screw up was the US, but they are screwing up in every part of Middle East -
I'd like to disagree about your statements regarding the Brits. To me, the British are one of the more enlightened colonial powers. Just look at their former colonies,Canada, Australia, India. Canada and Australia are both rich first world nations. Both of which are fully democratic. Pretty successful by an y means don't you think. India,how many former colonies can yank up nukes and stand as a regional power? If there's one colonial power that screwed up it would definately be the French.Originally posted by storm_freaky13:Actually its most Colonial masters that do that.
So can we call them terrorists?
To my limited knowledge, the only Colonial master that didnt screw up was the US, but they are screwing up in every part of Middle East -
One country's patriot, another country's terrorist.
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the United Jihadist Corporation
never heard of it right ? well.. its a corporation for starters... n it funds ALL the terrorists out there.. from Al-Qaeda to MILF . -
I'd like to disagree about your statements regarding the Brits. To me, the British are one of the more enlightened colonial powers. Just look at their former colonies,Canada, Australia, India. Canada and Australia are both rich first world nations. Both of which are fully democratic. Pretty successful by an y means don't you think. India,how many former colonies can yank up nukes and stand as a regional power? If there's one colonial power that screwed up it would definately be the French.Originally posted by fallin:I'd like to disagree about your statements regarding the Brits. To me, the British are one of the more enlightened colonial powers. Just look at their former colonies,Canada, Australia, India. Canada and Australia are both rich first world nations. Both of which are fully democratic. Pretty successful by an y means don't you think. India,how many former colonies can yank up nukes and stand as a regional power? If there's one colonial power that screwed up it would definately be the French.
Canada and Australia are nations which was occupied by the British and ruled by the British conducting a Genocide of the local populace like the Australian Aboringinals. India is different.
I disagree totally that the British were responsible for India's success. Contrary to your point, when the British left India, it was one of the poorest nations like the present African nations. The Indian nation was divided to suit the British ambition of checking the growth of India. India was looted by the British of its raw materials and its wealth by the British for many centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_GDP_%28PPP%29
Even the Taj Mahal must have gone under the hammer if it is found to be profitable to retreive the Marbles. It is the effort and hard work of its people that made the present India. -
But it's undeniable that in all their colonies, the British left a working administrative system of governance and a civil service that was educated enough to set on their own way in foreign policy.
Some African states destroyed theirs..the Asian ones leveraged on them. -
My knowledge regarding the separation of India and Pakistan is limited, would somebody care to enlighten me on how it actually occured. I mean the process,people involved? Thank you.
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prob china, usa or russia
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I agree with Bhagat, the former british colonies in the position they are today is not with the help of the british. They left the colonies without anything and took away everything valuable of that land. Where they are today is the result of their own people building their own country themselves. India, when the Brits left, it was utter chaos.
They created further chaos in the middle east with dissolving the Palestinian state and created Israel. Look at the mess that is there right now. The original people of that land had their homes taken away from them, just to create a place for the Jews. Now even the country Palestine doesnt even exist. -
But it's undeniable that in all their colonies, the British left a working administrative system of governance and a civil service that was educated enough to set on their own way in foreign policy.Originally posted by LazerLordz:But it's undeniable that in all their colonies, the British left a working administrative system of governance and a civil service that was educated enough to set on their own way in foreign policy.
Some African states destroyed theirs..the Asian ones leveraged on them.
Some African states destroyed theirs..the Asian ones leveraged on them.
It must have existed in Britain. But is that possible under queens rule. In India there was no good administrative system or governance. The British military was and the various governers were very brutal against the freedom fighters. People were massacered in parks where peaceful meetings were called by the Satyagrahis. No law was there to punish the British officers who violated human rights at will in the most brutal form. The freedom fighters who was marching were beaten up and shot at will. Leaders were jailed, including Mahatma Gandhi. Many leaders including Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, Sukhdev were hanged.
Is this administration or this suppressing the freedom movement using the most brutal methods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJ7IQYZV8g
I had to admit that the British started the Railways in India, but is that such big contribution. It was a merely to loot IndIa of its resources that a railway was formed from Thane to Mumbai harbour. It is nothing when you compare it with the present railway system and even if the British will not build railways Indian's will build it like how they had the Space technology. -
The first attempt to divide the Hindus and Muslims along communal lines was conducted by the British by dividing Bengal province into east and west. Disregarding all opposition the British divided bengal, then they supported the Muslim league a fundamentalistic organistation. Later when its leaders asked for a seperate nation in the name of religion, it was supported by the British and before leaving India, India was divided into Republic of India and Islamic Republic of Pakistan which comprises of west and east Pakistan. Republic of India continued with the tradition and remained as a secular, democratic, pluralistic nation which today is popularly known as India. The newly created Pakistan choose to be Islamic as it is the main basis of forming Pakistan. Large scale of Hindus and Sikhs moved into India whereas muslims wishing to live in an Islamic nation moved into Pakistan. Communal violence erupted and many people lost their lives. Later in 1971, after genocide and a freedom struggle East Pakistan became an independent nation of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshis.Originally posted by fallin:My knowledge regarding the separation of India and Pakistan is limited, would somebody care to enlighten me on how it actually occured. I mean the process,people involved? Thank you. -
In what criteria do you consider a organisation as 'Terrorist'.
Assassinations government officials, sponsored or planned bombing - commercial aircrafts, shops, restaurants, ports, buildings and homes, death squads, resistance fighters and coups. All involved death of innocent civilians to cause terror.... well, I have just described C!A.