Coup In Thailand
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Seems to be a coup going on up north in Thailand, phone lines are down apparently.
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Yeap something is definitely going on right now.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/19/thailand.coup.rumor/
Most up more news and links here pls. -
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Dudes, watch this webpage for developments.
Thai Army TV. http://www.tv5.co.th/live/
Might have to do with a certain none-too-kosher elections... -
so happening.
i dun understand, if the coup is by the militery and thaksin transferred militery authority to another person - who else is there to listen to this other person? -
maciam like ah bianOriginally posted by Ito_^:so happening.
i dun understand, if the coup is by the militery and thaksin transferred militery authority to another person - who else is there to listen to this other person?
acting one way when the situation clearly goes the other way
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ya lor..
i really dunnoe how thaksin is gonna solve this issue. -
Its official at the moment that Thailand is currently under miliatry rule. The army and police in control of Bangkok are loyal to the Thai King. I think there shouldn't be any violence. I am thinking could this have anything to do with the very recent bomb blasts in Southern Thailand?
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wah...kenot go phuket liaw
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Thaksin undecided on return to Thailand: spokesman
Posted: 20 September 2006 0738 hrs
BANGKOK - Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has still to decide whether to return to Thailand from New York after an overnight military coup against him, his spokesman said Wednesday.
"Prime Minister Thaksin is now in New York and he has not yet made up his mind where he will go. But he will have to make a decision soon," government spokesman Surapong Suebwonglee told AFP from New York.
Thaksin cancelled plans to give a speech to the UN General Assembly late Tuesday and was holed up at an upmarket New York hotel for much of the day as the coup went ahead in Bangkok.
The billionaire politician still has an official plane at his disposal. He has a private residence in London, where one of his daughters is studying.
Thaksin's wife Potjaman reportedly left Bangkok for Singapore late Tuesday as the coup was announced.
A senior Thai official in New York told AFP earlier that Thaksin planned to leave the United States overnight but that his destination was unknown. - AFP/ir
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Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra cannot risk going back to Thailand, he will be arrested immediately.
Maybe he will come to Singapore since Temasek-Shincorp good business partners and there are many VVIP (WB) here who can help him. -
Tsk... the military really shouldn't become such a political organisation... haiz.
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Still need King to come out n save the day.
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and a few days ago I tot to myself life is peaceful but then feel that something might happen to change things...
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Heh, I think Thaksin was given an "opportunity" or shown "mercy" in this coup. It could have happened while he was on the plane back to Thailand, but no. It happened while he was still in New York and given a choice not to return instead. Very very interesting developments.
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For years in many counties,the military has been a check on the government.Originally posted by Shotgun:Tsk... the military really shouldn't become such a political organisation... haiz.
They are actually not really getting into politics. They are just protecting themselves. Preserving the military as an organization that is loyal to the country and not government.
Thaksin was trying to replace most of the head of divisions and commands to his loyal friends. Meaning he was interfering with their promotions. -
a person of thaksin's stature and connection must have gotten wind of the coup before it materialised. he could have timed his NY visit so that he's away when it happened.
in addition, the coup plotters could have timed it when thaksin was away.
alternatively, both parties knew the inevitable and negotiated a 'save face' date for thaksin.
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is there a potential for singapore for a coup?
you know; dissent, unhappiness, one ship two captains etc etc.... -
Those senior military commanders will be jeoparding their future if they do that as after they retire bright futures like being a MP, CEO of some GLCs etc awaiting.Originally posted by ferryman2393:is there a potential for singapore for a coup?
you know; dissent, unhappiness, one ship two captains etc etc....
Also, I don't think that many likes the idea of LG Ng Yat Chung or MG Desmond Kuek being the prime minister of Singapore with those BGs as cabinet ministers.
Somemore I don't think that those NSF will give support to such a coup.
I would rather choose the PAP if I was only given 2 choices between the PAP and a military government although I dun really like PAP either. -
yah lor....zho bo eng the king like that....Originally posted by kaobeikaobu:Still need King to come out n save the day.
the king also cannot rest with all these army people driving around tanks in bangkok and around his palace. -
In any where.any time,soldiers will over thrown government
if thet are not too happy,including sg."Without the elected president and if there is a freak result, within two or three years, the army would have to come in and stop it," MM Lee said.
--Friday 2006 September 15, 9:16 PM,''Strong S'pore needed to say 'no' to neighbours - Lee'' -
i see they got humvee and m113
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the tank is an M41 Bulldog. a light tank. -
In Singapore, I frankly doubt if the military will step in to remove a duly elected government. The issues I see are this:-
1) it is not in our nature/ culture to intervene in a violent or potentially violent way in affairs of the state
2) as the military commander in Singapore, you are faced with several dilemmas all happening at the same time. THe top 2 dilemmas you face are the loyalty of your troops , bearing in mind they are conscripts and in fact they may have elected the same government you are trying to oust. The other dilemma is what if you do not get the support of the police and other army units and in turn you are branded as the "traitor". We Singaporeans are too conservative to put our necks out.
3) the fact that the military considers stepping in , is in itself a "nuclear option". Just imagine the economic chaos that Singapore will be in. Foreign investment will stop immediately and foreign labour will move out, stock market will crash. Singapore has no natural resources to sustain herself , unlike our neighbours. I think our commanders are sensible and pragmatic enough to consider this as important.
The likely scenario ( and I believe what the government is trying to imply) is where another political party, probably very radical in ideology, has replaced the PAP as the dominant party in Parliament. Then the military may act if they are convinced that such radicalism will also cause a downfall of Singapore. In which case, the nuclear option is no longer a non-viable option, since to do nothing in the face of radicalism will also be damaging to Singapore. -
Agreed. Its only a last resort. Anyway, anyone has ideas of where Thaksin is headed? I suppose he will be headed here, but would his family be given round the clock protection? Anyway,just to stray alittle, his daughter is hot!!!Originally posted by specfore:In Singapore, I frankly doubt if the military will step in to remove a duly elected government. The issues I see are this:-
1) it is not in our nature/ culture to intervene in a violent or potentially violent way in affairs of the state
2) as the military commander in Singapore, you are faced with several dilemmas all happening at the same time. THe top 2 dilemmas you face are the loyalty of your troops , bearing in mind they are conscripts and in fact they may have elected the same government you are trying to oust. The other dilemma is what if you do not get the support of the police and other army units and in turn you are branded as the "traitor". We Singaporeans are too conservative to put our necks out.
3) the fact that the military considers stepping in , is in itself a "nuclear option". Just imagine the economic chaos that Singapore will be in. Foreign investment will stop immediately and foreign labour will move out, stock market will crash. Singapore has no natural resources to sustain herself , unlike our neighbours. I think our commanders are sensible and pragmatic enough to consider this as important.
The likely scenario ( and I believe what the government is trying to imply) is where another political party, probably very radical in ideology, has replaced the PAP as the dominant party in Parliament. Then the military may act if they are convinced that such radicalism will also cause a downfall of Singapore. In which case, the nuclear option is no longer a non-viable option, since to do nothing in the face of radicalism will also be damaging to Singapore.