RMAF
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you forget about Thailand which we sold our F-16A/B to them.....Originally posted by Arena:Btw, do RMAF have the Sukhoi SU-30 coming on the way?
I think dunno Msia or Indonesia made an order to buy these planes few yrs back....
Btw other than RSAF, which other countries in the SEA region owns F-16 too??
Indonesia? -
N the thai have our old f-16...Wouldn't say so,heard Indonesian Air Force SUs have no weapons....F16 got spares problem.....N any weapon is only as good as those who use them....N RMAF would soon have SUs n the present F18s n MiG-29...So tink about itOriginally posted by Arena:So Indonesia have both the SU-30 and F-16 and Malaysia don't?
That makes the Indonesian Air Force much superior than malaysia's and comparable to our RSAF -
Indonesia does not operate SU-30, e order was cancel due 2 lack of funds.
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Tat why i cant wait for our F-15SG
Gunship gray look great on any military aircraft -
In modern airwarfare, it is not just about quality of individual aircraft and pilots, it is about doctrine>systems>tactics>training>equipment>people which come together to make up an unbeatable warfighting capability.
The Americans are currently masters in the art of airwarfare ; they also have the most up to date airwarfare combat experience - unbeatable -
Not true, Indon bought 2 SU-27SK and 2 SU-30MK , but no weapon, it is believe to be the first training batch b4 more order.Originally posted by spartan6:Indonesia does not operate SU-30, e order was cancel due 2 lack of funds.
http://community.middlebury.edu/~scs/docs/student%20research%20project%20January%202006/Derek_Poon/Site/Timeline/timeline5.html -
Doctrine,Tactics,Training=pilotsOriginally posted by glock:In modern airwarfare, it is not just about quality of individual aircraft and pilots, it is about doctrine>systems>tactics>training>equipment>people which come together to make up an unbeatable warfighting capability.
The Americans are currently masters in the art of airwarfare ; they also have the most up to date airwarfare combat experience - unbeatable
Systems,Equipment=aircraft
Most up to date airwarfare combat experience(if u have no war)= more training
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Latest on Indon SU:
In 2007 Indonesian Sukhoi jet fighters will be armed
Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Four Sukhoi jet fighters of the Indonesian Air Force, purchased in 2003 by the Indonesian government from Russia, will be armed in 2007.
The four Sukhois -- as one of the main strength of the Indonesian military (TNI) in the last two years -- starting in 2007 will have rockets, missiles and bombs, Air Force Chief of Staff Air Marshal Herman Prayitno said in Pekanbaru on Tuesday.
After witnessing air manoeuvres during the Air Force exercises in Pasir Putih, Pekanbaru, he said the contract on the procurement of the four Sukhois has already been signed by the two sides, and the four jet fighters would soon be sent to Indonesia when the right time comes.
The combat jets, dubbed Flankers, are upgraded Sukhoi Su-27 SKs each with a Lyulka AL-31F twin engine with a thrusting power of 12,550 kg.
These jet fighters are also fitted with IRST/Infra Red Search and Track equipment capable of tracking down and sensing targets 70 km away. No jets built in the West have such super sophisticated equipment.
All the killing arms fitted on the Sukhois are more reliable and better than the missiles manufactured by Israel, like Python or AIM-9L/M Sidewinder, which are also used by the West.(*)
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That's cool... But I doubt 2 SU-27 and 2 Su-30 will increase the Indo Air Force power signidficantly...
How abt Msia, she also bought Sukhoi jets? Is it true barter trade?
I think I read in the papers v v long ago.... Quite amusing to see them barter trade...
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is not no money...is using offset to lower down the buying cost.....which a lot of countries doing that also.....Originally posted by Arena:That's cool... But I doubt 2 SU-27 and 2 Su-30 will increase the Indo Air Force power signidficantly...
How abt Msia, she also bought Sukhoi jets? Is it true barter trade?
I think I read in the papers v v long ago.... Quite amusing to see them barter trade...
No money... -
I think I read in the papers v v long ago.... Quite amusing to see them barter trade...
its funny too why those sellers agree to the idea...
No money... -
Thanks for updating me
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because they can recoup later by selling spare parts, upgrade, weapons..... at any price they desire...Originally posted by ferryman2393:its funny too why those sellers agree to the idea...
malaysia can then choose to either cough up the hard cash or ends up with non-functional systems. -
because they can recoup later by selling spare parts, upgrade, weapons..... at any price they desire...
same thing with hard cash, don't you think so?
people who buy things with cash are usually financially well off. some borrow money. some trade things like baseball cards. at least they have baseball cards.
but the way things are in this world of ours, those with cash can say and do whatever they want with impunity. uncle sam came to mind.