SAF vs IDF
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SAF vs Israeli Defence Force, who will prevail?
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IDF. We're a bunch of n00bs compared to the battle-hardened Israelis.
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it depends.
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tactics wise, i think we are better.
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our standard section cant match up uh....7 man....takes onli 1 casualty to bring the section out of the picture....
and the inf rifle coy weapons...84?....i onli feel safe with the MG.... -
Considering the four main Arab-Israeli Wars and minor arms conflicts they fought last century,together with the frequent CQB they have to deal with,i dont dare to come to the same conclusion.Originally posted by nightzip:tactics wise, i think we are better. -
The IDF sure win one, spore army never fight war before, will definetly lose to those army who have fought wars before
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Singapore can use cash money can slap those israelis off one by one if tats the way they want it..
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Lol.. Sorry, Israeli is much richer than us...
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hmm...you are right.Originally posted by latterrain:The IDF sure win one, spore army never fight war before, will definetly lose to those army who have fought wars before -
i tink SAF can chao keng better....
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Depends on whether you are fighting in desert or swamp
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IF the SAF has to fight IDF on the same grounds, it will do well to take a leaf out of the Hezbollah efforts in dealing with the Israeli War Machine.
From commentaries and analysis of the recent Israeli-Hezbollah fights, it will seem that the IDF had suffered a major dent in their invincible armor - and by a smaller guerilla force.
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Lebanon War Lessons Learned
Predicting an imminent resumption of fighting with Hezbollah, the Israeli military is quickly studying the results of round one, Aviation Week reports:
Meanwhile, The Nation is calling for a renewed look at Israel's justification for the invasion:
While the [Israeli Air Force] contends it did its mission, others are putting some of the blame for the offensive's mixed results on Israel Defense Forces (IDF) chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, the first air force officer to serve in that post. Critics contend that his expectations for the IAF were too high. As a result, along with continued fighting against Hamas in Gaza and the looming roles-and-missions battle between the services, there are strong signals the Israeli defense establishment is headed for a shake-up. Additionally, a heated debate over future defense spending priorities is expected in the coming months.
Results on the political front are less ambiguous: Israelis are hopping mad, according to The New York Times:
We were saturated with the message that Hezbollah is a shadowy terrorist organization that has spent years showering northern Israel with rockets -- and that Israel had both the right and the duty to protect itself from such attacks once and for all. Thus was history instantaneously rewritten to Israel's own specifications.
In fact, from the moment that Israel ended its last military occupation of Lebanon in 2000 until the explosion of the current war on July 12, UN observers report that there was not a single casualty as a result of a confirmed rocket attack by Hezbollah on civilian targets in northern Israel.
Perhaps the most comprehensive "lessons-learned" report can be found here, courtesy of the Center for Strategic and International Studies (warning: PDF!).
Israel is politically roiled by public dissatisfaction with the monthlong Lebanon war. The public has been surprised by the inconclusive outcome of the campaign, frightened by unintended consequences like the surging popularity of Hezbollah, and angry that Israel's vaunted military has been shown to be less than all-powerful.
--David Axe
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-Hizb-e-allah and her iranian instructors have found new and intriguing roles for wire guided atgms. That the iranians would have had , what's the word?, the chutz-pah, to make seemingly obselete atgms in such large numbers, thus reducing their unit costs, and then deploying them against exposed infantry and fortifications as guided man-portable artillery.
An 82mm mortar and several rounds, enough to bracket a target versus a single anti-personnel Ra'ad 2 atgm with launcher a high probablity of a kill, which would you want to lug around the battlefield?
WE may have just seen the light machine gun displaced as the principle crew-served weapon of the infantry. My goodness a flying guided claymore , what other surprises do you think the iranians have come up with in their isolation?
I know every u.s. commander who might have been tasked with changing iran's thought's about mastering the nuclear fuel cycle on the field of battle, is thanking every god man has ever imagined for the glimpse of the future that israeli cannon fodder have provided.
Thank you olmert for being such a predictable tool. Future generations, if they even give any thought to the prime minister who pissed away israel's aura of invinciblity in south lebanon, will sing limmericks about you.
--Azrael
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You guys got to be kidding. Not even the US Army is as good. Every other army is simply no match! Period.
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Of course.. The IDF...
1) They can get billions of dollars and all the weapons they want ... free from the US. What can the SAF expect.
2) Even if the IDF are the worst soldiers on the planet.. they will still win.. because they own many major news agency.. they will portray SAF as the aggressor, 'Axis of evil' or even as a communist regime, and people will believe. While the IDF can slit every captured babies wide open.. the press won't even mention it.
3) They can expect US volunteers to sign up for IDF service and shipped in on US warships with constant supplies.. and the SAF could do nothing about it.
4) SAF will be heavily sauntioned, condemn by UNSC, and the IDF would have NATO Troops fighting for them in no time.. and the usual 'no fly zone' and sea embargo..
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I think SAF can prevail in jungle warfare.
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Speaking of commandos, the IDF will surely prevail over their SAF counterparts. The IDF commandos, for example Sayeret Matkal, are some of the very best in the world.
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wayang wise, i think few can beat us in the world
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SAF is for show 1 nia lah...
wat 3G.....their 3G equipment is just a few set..enuff for 1 unit or less....
ask them kill ppl...who dare...chop pple head onli IDF dare haha
mayb SAF sld show more orgish.com vid to train their toughness haha -
Wah brother, you got train with Sayeret Matkal huh? You damn solid man.Originally posted by rebelray:IDF commandos, for example Sayeret Matkal, are some of the very best in the world. -
If you are referring to organising events like NDP or SAF marathon, I think SAF will wins hands down.
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Thank you very muchOriginally posted by hardyhall:Wah brother, you got train with Sayeret Matkal huh? You damn solid man.
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Wrong post.
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Jungle warfare we may win... Else... we are dead..
We are trained by them... do you know how did they isreali train us!? Imagine after washing the toilet. they threw a bread on the floor and ask you to eat since you say it's clean..
Singapore Units still got cleaner aunty sia..
They are under constant terrorist thread and etc.
Singapore only facing a bunch of clowns in thinks like building a freaking bridge who they are just happened to be lousier. Which at least they don't wear TNT and explode themselves int he middle of orchard road.
But i can say the same for economy... In some ways we may have advantage... Military wise... we lost 9/10