AR15 and M16
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Can I ask a silly question?
What is the difference between AR15 and M16?
Both seems the same to me... -
The M16, M16A1 and M16A2 are military assault rifles with full automatic or burst-fire capability.Originally posted by Arena:Can I ask a silly question?
What is the difference between AR15 and M16?
Both seems the same to me...
The civilian version is the AR15 which lacks the full auto or burst feature. It is capable of only semi-auto fire (i.e., one round discharged per trigger pull).
Externally, both versions are identical (except for an additional position on the selector switch of the M16 that is labeled BURST or AUTO); internally, the mechanisms are somewhat different. This page describes and illustrates some of the major differences in the internals of the AR15 and M16. -
AR15 (ARmalite 15) is the original name for the M16 before the US Military adopted it and designated it the M16.
The ArmaLite Division of Fairchild developed the AR-15 in 1959. Fairchild licensed the rifle to the Colt's Patent Firearm Manufacturing Corporation, and Colt's assumed the AR-15 trademark. Early Colt rifles were marked "Colt ArmaLite 15." -
M16 has a forward assist handle.
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The first M16 issued to troops did not have forward bolt assist.
Only the later versions designated M16A1 had forward bolt assist. -
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And i always thought that the AR-15 and the early M-16 are structurely the same! Just that they are being called differently. Now i know better.
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I think there is a difference of opinions here as the guy in the link was talking about the difference between a weapon designated as AR-15 or M-16 in the USA civilian gun ownership market of today.Originally posted by tankee1981:And i always thought that the AR-15 and the early M-16 are structurely the same! Just that they are being called differently. Now i know better.
In this case, the AR-15 is semi-auto for the civilian market.
But....
Some others here on this forum was referring to the difference between the AR-15 and M-16 in the 60's when the US first adopted the weapon.
The following quotation is from http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm
"The US AF M16 was no more than an AR-15 rifle with appropriate markings." -
AR-15 has no forward-assist
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i remember some forumite has already said that the older versions of the m16 also doesn't have the forward assist.
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The original AR-15 come with semi as well as full auto but the difference between the later M-16 is that dun have a bolt assist.
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The vast majority the AR15 rifles currently sold in the US do have forward assists. Here's mine, which was built with parts from various vendors:Originally posted by spartan6:AR-15 has no forward-assist
You can see the forward assist just below the charging handle.
Several vendors here do offer AR15 upper receivers without the forward assist.
Here's one from DPMS for ARs chambered in .308 rather than .223/5.56. -
Hope my above link has helped
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If u wanna noe sumthing else...the local M16S1's buffer spring assembly cannot be removed frm the lower receiver unlike tt of the AR15 or M16A1s...
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Yes, it has. Thank you for the link, sir!Originally posted by wonderamazement:Hope my above link has helped -
Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:Yes, it has. Thank you for the link, sir!
No problem....just that i'm a lowly recruit!! Kiddin' -
Don't really understand this statement... Please elaborate.Originally posted by SpecOps87:If u wanna noe sumthing else...the local M16S1's buffer spring assembly cannot be removed frm the lower receiver unlike tt of the AR15 or M16A1s... -
That's in the butt isn't it? Can be removed. But not by mere hands.Originally posted by SpecOps87:If u wanna noe sumthing else...the local M16S1's buffer spring assembly cannot be removed frm the lower receiver unlike tt of the AR15 or M16A1s... -
Issit? I pried the whole buffer spring out b4 leh... it was dam dirty lar, so took it out, wiped it, re-oiled it. lol! Its the thing that looks a bit like a dildo with spring around it rite?
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Tried before...can't move it. On AR15 its supposed to be able to be screwed in or out.Originally posted by LazerLordz:That's in the butt isn't it? Can be removed. But not by mere hands. -
That's strange - we do it all the time, remove the buffer spring for cleaning on the M16S1. Not difficult as well.Originally posted by SpecOps87:If u wanna noe sumthing else...the local M16S1's buffer spring assembly cannot be removed frm the lower receiver unlike tt of the AR15 or M16A1s... -
Thanks
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The buffer spring in the butt can be removed, there's a notch and using a tweezer to depress the notch down and the buffer spring can be removed already... Another thing that need the pros here to ascertain is that the flare suppressor for AR15 and M16 are different...Originally posted by bcoy:That's strange - we do it all the time, remove the buffer spring for cleaning on the M16S1. Not difficult as well. -
The suppressor are screwed on, so not really representative.
Becos sometime you do see M-16 with the older suppressor in SAF, maybe the orginal was lost and replaced with the older one. -
Hmmm, btw, there's this tube above the cauliflower in the upper reciever. It like always covered in carbon , and i tried and could only clean the external. The inside of that tube must be dirty as hell, how is it possible to clean that thing.