Goat demoted for parade incident
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LONDON, England (AP) -- A British army regiment's ceremonial pet goat was demoted in disgrace after it marched out of line before a host of international dignitaries during a parade to mark Queen's Elizabeth II's birthday, a military spokesman said Saturday.
The military mascot, a 6-year-old male goat called Billy, was downgraded from the rank of lance corporal to fusilier -- the same status as a private -- after army chiefs ruled his poor display had ruined the ceremony June 16 at a British army base in Episkopi, western Cyprus.
Lance Cpl. Dai Davies, 22, the goat's handler, was unable to keep control during the march earlier this month, as the mascot darted from side to side, throwing soldiers off their stride, spokesman Captain Crispian Coates said by telephone from Episkopi -- one of two British bases on the island.
"The goat, which has been the regiment's mascot since 2001, was supposed to be leading the march, but would not stay in line," said Coates. "He was reported for subordination and after consideration, the commanding officer decided he had no option but to demote Billy."
Since his demotion, soldiers of a lower rank are no longer expected to salute Billy as a sign of respect, Coates said.
Captain William Rose, a soldier present at the parade, said the goat "was trying to headbutt the waist and nether regions of the drummers."
The regiment, the 1st Battalion, The Royal Welsh, has traveled with a pet goat since soldiers adopted one of the animals during the Crimean War, awarding it ceremonial status as a lance corporal.
A total of 11 ceremonial pets -- including a ferret, an Indian black buck and a ram -- are kept by the British Army, but regiments do not take the mascots on tours to combat zones. British legislators were told last month that keeping the pets costs £30,000 ($55,000; €44,000) per year.
The Welsh regiment was presented with a goat from the Royal herd in 1746, and Billy is a descendant from the same bloodline, said a spokeswoman for Britain's Ministry of Defense, on customary condition of anonymity in line with policy.
"He is not a grazing goat and has food flown in from Wales. Billy also has an allowance of two cigarettes a day -- both of which he eats," said the spokeswoman.
Ambassadors from Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, a United Nations special representative and the head of U.N. forces in Cyprus all attended the march, Coates added.
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shld use it as kambing soup mah
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It "eats" cigarettes?
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Wah salute to goat? How does that compare to saluting white horses. OUr pet expenditure seems higher than theirs ...Originally posted by tankee1981:Since his demotion, soldiers of a lower rank are no longer expected to salute Billy as a sign of respect, Coates said.
Anyway, shouldn't the pet trainer be punished as well, for not training the goat properly ... -
hardcoreOriginally posted by CoolMyth:It "eats" cigarettes? 
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Fwah... Maybe our respective division can have their own pet mascot also.
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human salute a goat?? isnt tt dumb?
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I totally agree! This is the first ime I heard of such stories!
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do remember that this is the military you are talkign aboutOriginally posted by NT2:human salute a goat?? isnt tt dumb? -
Captain William Rose, a soldier present at the parade, said the goat "was trying to headbutt the waist and nether regions of the drummers."
A total of 11 ceremonial pets -- including a ferret, an Indian black buck and a ram -- are kept by the British Army, but regiments do not take the mascots on tours to combat zones. British legislators were told last month that keeping the pets costs £30,000 ($55,000; €44,000) per year.
They might want to consider bringing this Billy the Goat for combat duties due to the amount of money they spent on him...i am sure he will be a good guard duty personnel...scares the hell out of intruders! Ouch!
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Good grief, that was a good comeback!...Originally posted by gd4u:Wah salute to goat? How does that compare to saluting white horses. OUr pet expenditure seems higher than theirs .... -
i thought we have already?Originally posted by Shotgun:Fwah... Maybe our respective division can have their own pet mascot also.
Wah salute to goat? How does that compare to saluting white horses. OUr pet expenditure seems higher than theirs ...
probably goats will look better than white horses...
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how sweet... so cute hor!!
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then 3rd div people bring one tiger out to war ah? hahahah
then six div bring cobra~ which the enemies will use to cook tonic soup -
wah lau, as if the goat cares.
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dun make fun of 6 div ar!Originally posted by desiaru:then 3rd div people bring one tiger out to war ah? hahahah
then six div bring cobra~ which the enemies will use to cook tonic soup
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Demoting a Goat as in the goat will know it like that. Sometime dun really know what is wrong with the world.
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Can SAF keep panther , tiger and cobra as their mascots??/
Panther , Tiger and Cobra are symbols found in SAF main divisions..
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Originally posted by fkh
If we are to bring these mascots for parade just like the above story. I supposed it will be near impossible for the handler to handle the cobra during 'marching' right?
Can SAF keep panther , tiger and cobra as their mascots??/ -
demotion ? ... why not just hold a BBQ ? ...
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lol............................
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and 9 Div will bring a black cat.Originally posted by desiaru:then 3rd div people bring one tiger out to war ah? hahahah
then six div bring cobra~ which the enemies will use to cook tonic soup
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It's a very British tradition to have "enlisted" animals.
There is a centuries old tradition of keeping 6 ravens in the Tower of London. If the ravens leave the Tower of London, it is a sign that ill fate would befall the British Empire.
I saw a TV program that said the birds were also given rank but I can't find that info on the web.
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yeah right.. and watch the enemy catapult a hamster over and throw the division into disarray.Originally posted by LazerLordz:and 9 Div will bring a black cat.
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I have known of the Brazilian army taking care of wild animals such as the Jaguars and panthers in their Amazon
jungle training area. These predators are not domesticated but are comfortable enough with these Brazilian soldiers to play with them. These animals sort of became their mascots.