Primus SPH spotted at Bukit Batok Ave 3
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Here guys I was walking along this stretch of road this morning when I saw a Primus 155mm SPH being carried on a lowloader.
Note that pic's resolution is not very good as it was taken using my HP. -
Nuhtin to be curious about. Lots of other tanks and heavy vehicles are ferried around singapore that way...
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That's called a lowloader, not a civilian heavy truck.
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Oops my badOriginally posted by ditzy:That's called a lowloader, not a civilian heavy truck. 
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I tot military stuff being ferried this way, have to be covered up with canvas or smt ???
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this particular tank is not a secret wat... already revealed to public...Originally posted by gd4u:I tot military stuff being ferried this way, have to be covered up with canvas or smt ??? -
Ok, copy that ...
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No secret mah, bx and ultras also carry without cover, don't think HQMS want to be bogged down with extra store like "cover,canvass, heavy vehicle" also
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I lived along Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 near Upper Thomson in the late 70's to early 80's. AMK was a "new town" then.
Tanks used to travel along Ave 1 main road!
No low loader nothin'!!! A convoy of about 6 M-113 with swinging antennaes, hatch open and lights blazing would rumble down Ave 1 at 5am in the morning. Wake the whole blooming neighbourhood up cos it's so gawdam LOUD!
Everyone would be pi.ssed off but I was one happy kid and I would run outside and to the corridor to watch them pass.
My older bro was in armour and I would always imagine he's in one of them. Damn sad I wasn't selected for armour later on during NS.
The practice was stopped a few years later as AMK became one huge residential zone. Also damaged the roads as you can see the tread marks on the road as you wait for a bus to go to school. -
NiceOriginally posted by moca:I lived along Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 near Upper Thomson in the late 70's to early 80's. AMK was a "new town" then.
Tanks used to travel along Ave 1 main road!
No low loader nothin'!!! A convoy of about 6 M-113 with swinging antennaes, hatch open and lights blazing would rumble down Ave 1 at 5am in the morning. Wake the whole blooming neighbourhood up cos it's so gawdam LOUD!
Everyone would be pi.ssed off but I was one happy kid and I would run outside and to the corridor to watch them pass.
My older bro was in armour and I would always imagine he's in one of them. Damn sad I wasn't selected for armour later on during NS.
The practice was stopped a few years later as AMK became one huge residential zone. Also damaged the roads as you can see the tread marks on the road as you wait for a bus to go to school.
Speaking about M113s, apparently a large proportion of the 1000+ originally acquired from the mid 70s to late 80s are still in service rather than being replaced by the Bionix. Even the basic M113A1/A2s not upgraded to Ultra standard still continue to soldier on, except for the oldest ones which have been withdrawn from use. Heard this from a AI trooper... Can anyone confirm? -
Those non-upgraded still serves in e recovery & other non-combat roles
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Originally posted by ^Delta^
I can confirm that many of the basic M113 are still around. Many of the basic M113 are being used for trials and tests for new systems. One such example is the latest Igla AA missile on the M113 platform.
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Speaking about M113s, apparently a large proportion of the 1000+ originally acquired from the mid 70s to late 80s are still in service rather than being replaced by the Bionix. Even the basic M113A1/A2s not upgraded to Ultra standard still continue to soldier on, except for the oldest ones which have been withdrawn from use. Heard this from a AI trooper... Can anyone confirm?
The M113 have an advantage over the BX, thus instead of replacing all the M113 with BX, some are being upgraded to the Ultra standard.
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Wats the advantage M113 has over BX? Besides having plenty of them around and available.
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It doesn't need a $300 ping pong ball to go swimming.Originally posted by insouciant:Wats the advantage M113 has over BX? Besides having plenty of them around and available. -
Actually its best not to talk about the weakness of our own military capability here in a public forum. But it have something to do with M113's capability and not its numbers.
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It wouldn't be a weakness. But the most common reason for the M113 in existence today is the sheer availability of parts and kits for upgrades.Originally posted by tankee1981:Actually its best not to talk about the weakness of our own military capability here in a public forum. But it have something to do with M113's capability and not its numbers. -
it's a real old vehicle. leaks oil like mad.i'm training in it now
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The M113 is the M-16 of APC. 30 years later, people are still modding it and using it in large numbers. United Defense - the manufacturer - already produced several other off-shoots based on the M-113. Many other countries like S. Korea, Turkey etc all produce their own variants based on the M-113.Originally posted by LazerLordz:It wouldn't be a weakness. But the most common reason for the M113 in existence today is the sheer availability of parts and kits for upgrades.
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yeah, and the organic swimming ability. still unmatched.Originally posted by moca:The M113 is the M-16 of APC. 30 years later, people are still modding it and using it in large numbers. United Defense - the manufacturer - already produced several other off-shoots based on the M-113. Many other countries like S. Korea, Turkey etc all produce their own variants based on the M-113.
It's far from the best, but like you said, it's EVERYWHERE.
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i have a question. why is there no police escorts for such transports? what if some terrorist hijack or bomb the vechicle. haha.Originally posted by ^Delta^:
Here guys I was walking along this stretch of road this morning when I saw a Primus 155mm SPH being carried on a lowloader.
Note that pic's resolution is not very good as it was taken using my HP.
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Police escorts cost $$$, and that's something mindef isn't too pleased to spend on.Originally posted by ah_kwang:i have a question. why is there no police escorts for such transports? what if some terrorist hijack or bomb the vechicle. haha. Anyway, there is a vc assigned to travel with the driver. They need at least 2 people to get that bl00dy thing off the rack. -
the pic doesn't show the traffic police / escorts lah..Originally posted by ah_kwang:i have a question. why is there no police escorts for such transports? what if some terrorist hijack or bomb the vechicle. haha.
first thing first: the terrorist will know when and where the lowloader with the armoured vehicle will stop @ ?
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Also travelling on roads is wear and tear on the tracks as well. it is cheaper to outsource to a logistic company to transport them by trailers.Originally posted by moca:I lived along Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 near Upper Thomson in the late 70's to early 80's. AMK was a "new town" then.
Tanks used to travel along Ave 1 main road!
No low loader nothin'!!! A convoy of about 6 M-113 with swinging antennaes, hatch open and lights blazing would rumble down Ave 1 at 5am in the morning. Wake the whole blooming neighbourhood up cos it's so gawdam LOUD!
Everyone would be pi.ssed off but I was one happy kid and I would run outside and to the corridor to watch them pass.
My older bro was in armour and I would always imagine he's in one of them. Damn sad I wasn't selected for armour later on during NS.
The practice was stopped a few years later as AMK became one huge residential zone. Also damaged the roads as you can see the tread marks on the road as you wait for a bus to go to school. -
my friend said he saw an f-16 being ferried on land by a flatbed, think a low loader also, while i seen a Bionix on the road ferried also before it was released to the public eye.. it was covered with canvas and for a while i keep thinking the armour have bradley light tanks....
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I believe i saw a canvas covered vehicle with what looks like multiple tubes under the canvas. I thot it resembled an S-300 system... seriously.
The M113s will continue to soldier on for a long time lar. Those are liable vehicles capable of multiple roles. Our ULtra conversion are perhaps one of the best upgrades an M113 can recieve. + Our M113s used for so many purposes already...