Zarqawi Killed - At last!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5058304.stm
This guy's been reported 'almost' dead or caught so many times in the past that it is difficult not to view the report with a healthy dose of scepticism. But if true, I hope he finds that his 'virgins' are virgins for a damn good reason - butt ugly hags!
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has announced that militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has been killed.
"Today we have managed to put an end to Zarqawi," Mr Maliki said, sparking sustained applause.
The Jordanian-born leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq was considered the figurehead of the Sunni insurgency. Reports say he was killed in an air raid near Baquba.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq has been blamed for scores of bombings that have killed hundreds of Shias and US forces.
The head of US-led forces in Iraq, General George Casey, said Zarqawi's body was identified through fingerprints and facial recognition.
Zarqawi has also been accused of leading the rash of kidnappings and beheadings of foreign workers.
Unconfirmed reports suggested he was seen on one video posted on the internet personally cutting off the head of one hostage.
Mr Maliki said intelligence from Iraqi people had helped track down Zarqawi, who had a $25m price on his head.
"What happened today is a result of co-operation for which we have been asking from our masses and the citizens of our country," he said.
The prime minister urged Iraqis to join politcal dialogue rather than violence, vowing to "carry on on the same path... by killing all the terrorists".
The BBC's Ian Pannell in Baghdad says this will be seen as a major victory for the new Iraqi government and US forces but it remains to be seen what effect, if any, it has on the ongoing violence and death rate in the country. -
There will always be others to take his place. One must not fight the insurgency with brute military strength alone, winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people is in fact just as if not more important. One have to learn from the experience gained during the fighting in the Malayan emergency with the communists.
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wow...the guy is worth 25million!!
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Next stop - OBL.
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Zarqawi's dead... oh no..no...no..no..
in case, you guys doesn't know Zarqawi was a US invented vilant, just because he was in Baddag for medical operation, before that he was in Kurd's backyard under US control... and for that, the US says his a terrorist and thus forced him to be one. From then on everything was blamed on him, while OBL was temporary forgotten.
The US really needs another Bogyman to replace him... to play the fear factor and must have a tangible target... so, wake up children.
Back to the elusive OBL ?????FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html
June 6, 2006 – This past weekend, a thought provoking e-mail circulated through Internet news groups, bringing attention to the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist web page for Usama Bin Laden.[1] (See bottom of this web page for Most Wanted page) In the e-mail, the question is asked, “Why doesn’t Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster make any direct connection with the events of September 11, 2001?” The FBI says on its Bin Laden web page that Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998 bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. According to the FBI, these attacks killed over 200 people. The FBI concludes its reason for “wanting” Bin Laden by saying, “In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorists attacks throughout the world.”
On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.” -
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Lies, Lies, Lies, that's what Americans like their pies... on some innocent people's faces.
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Finally he is dead! The world's most active terrorist is dead. Compare to Osama who is inactive and only deeds recently is making video clips, he was the one to get. I think now he can sit back and enjoy his 100 virgins in hell. The world is a better place without him around.
Looks like someone is US$25 million richer. -
Agree.Originally posted by tankee1981:There will always be others to take his place. One must not fight the insurgency with brute military strength alone, winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people is in fact just as if not more important. One have to learn from the experience gained during the fighting in the Malayan emergency with the communists.
But the 'gang' that this Zarqawi leads is not interested to 'free' Iraq of its foreign troops nor to fight for a better Iraq. This 'gang' has only one goal - that is to kill Americans (& that is NOT NEGOTIABLE, unless the US itself becomes a Taliban-style Islamic state). You don't and you can't negotiate nor win the hearts of such people. The only way to deal with such people is to fight fire with fire.
One must remember, there are 2 main groups leading the insurgency in Iraq - the local Sunnis (primarily) & the above 'gang (led primarily by foreign fighters. The 1st group, yes you can win their hearts as their interest in running the insurgency is to (1) remind any current Iraqi govt not to forget/ignore them (minority Sunnis) as a spent force in Iraqi politics, (2) not to discount them in the distribution of revenue (oil mainly) & (3) to recover some of 'lost' benefits that they enjoyed under Saddam's rule but lost after Saddam fell. This Sunni-led insurgency had played their cards and played it well. Their agenda is not unreasonable and defintely could be accomodated (vis-a-vis 'winning their hearts') in future Iraqi politics and as seen in their representation in the new Iraqi govt line-up and hopefully their insurgency-led could be abated.
However, the latter group led by gangster Zarqawi does not share the Sunnis agenda. Their agenda is to create hell for everyone (as seen their targetting of both coalition troops and innocent Iraqi civilians in bombings) and create the atmospher that the Americans are 'losing' the war in Iraq (To me, the Americans may be 'losing' battles there but definitely are not losing the war) and thus mystifying their image as a form of a modern-day Saladin Army against the infidels thus attracting more 'mis-fits' into their ranks.
I apolgise for hijacking this thread but I believe the successful British experience in combating the communist in Malayan is not applicable to the TAQ (Taliban/ Al-Qaeda) organisation when their hardcore agenda is to portray themselves as a Islamic savior combating 'injustices' suffered by fellow muslims worldwide and see deaths to infidels as glorious and their own death as welcomed and guaranteed to enter an Islamic Heaven. -
You may call me inhumane but i think the most effective way of capturing terrorists is to by toturing the caught ones before making them disappear - killing them via public or state sponsored execution will only make them matyrs
Why should the media or human rights group make noise when they conveniently forget the deeds done by the terrorists?
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yea..the capture and interrogation method much better.
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Rumour is such a subtle weapon.Quiff
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this was already out first in the frontpage news of Yahoo
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Here's the life story of Zarqawi.... all 5 pages.. judge for yourself.
The Short, Violent Life of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
How a video-store clerk and small-time crook reinvented himself as America’s nemesis in Iraqby Mary Anne WeaverIn a cold and blustery evening in December 1989, Huthaifa Azzam, the teenage son of the legendary Jordanian-Palestinian mujahideen leader Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, went to the airport in Peshawar, Pakistan, to welcome a group of young men. All were new recruits, largely from Jordan, and they had come to fight in a fratricidal civil war in neighboring Afghanistan—an outgrowth of the CIA-financed jihad of the 1980s against the Soviet occupation there.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200607/zarqawi
The men were scruffy, Huthaifa mused as he greeted them, and seemed hardly in battle-ready form. Some had just been released from prison; others were professors and sheikhs. None of them would prove worth remembering—except for a relatively short, squat man named Ahmad Fadhil Nazzal al-Khalaylah.
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the hearts and minds of the so called terrorists are to
be understood in order to win this war.
this is a bad taste when high ranking officials clapping hands
when news of people(even they are terrorists) dead announced
---not a civilised behaviour.
the dead may create more hate and dead--nothing to
be celebrated at all.Part of Zarqawi strike video
CENTCOM.mil seems hosed. I had finally managed to start downloading the video of the air strike that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi when it went down.
I did manage to get the first 40 seconds of the video, which inlcudes a couple views of the hit.
Check it out: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Strike (1.85MB 0:40 of 2:10)8 june 2006 -
what about osama?
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Zarqawi wouldn't have any reason to stir $hit in Iraq if the Americans hadn't seen it as their perogative to topple Saddam Hussein.
Perhaps this topic will help refresh your minds. -
Die terrorist DIE!!
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Al-Zarqawi Said to Survive Airstrike
2.Special ops A-Team
helped nail Zarqawi
U.S., British defense chiefs formed
task force to kill him 2 months agoFriday, June 9, 2006 WASHINGTON – When Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaida leader in Iraq, was killed today by 500-pound bombs dropped by two F-16 fighter jets on a house north of Baghdad, it was the result of intelligence information gathered, in part, by an elite task force of international special operations forces formed just a month ago with the express purpose of taking him out.
The "A-Team" created for the mission drew on the skills and expertise of U.S. Army Green Berets, "Tier 1" of Britain's Special Air Service and the Israeli Mossad, as reported last month inJoseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND.
The decision to form the unit was taken after a top-level conference between U.S. and British defense chiefs in Washington a month ago.
The unit was part of the already-secret Task Force Black run by Britain's MI6 out of coalition forces headquarters in Baghdad. Nicknamed " The Untouchables," it was given a no-holds barred brief in pursuit of Zarqawi in May.
To avoid detection, the team dressed in clothes bought from second-hand stalls in Baghdad's back-street markets. They regularly sprayed themselves with a pungent, sweat-smelling odor known as "souk scent." Each man wore contact lenses that turned their eye color brown or black. The goal was to permit them to look like any other Iraqi peasant as they hunted the most bloodthirsty killer in Iraq.
"The Untouchables" were assured in advance they need fear no investigation into their methods to bring Zarqawi to summary justice.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
Though Zarqawi was done in ultimately by massive bombs delivered from high-tech fighters, the unit members were each equipped with L115A-338 sniper rifles that allowed them to kill at 1,000 yards. But the key to the mission was the fact that each made high-risk surveillance operations into normally no-go areas in Iraq.
While officially Israel denies any presence in Iraq, four Mossad assassins were assigned to serve with the unit.
"The Untouchables" also used thermal-imaging equipment to probe the "rat holes" the terror chief used as he flitted around Baghdad and other cities. They also had at their disposal a CIA-operated Predator unmanned aircraft able to provide a real-time video feedback of any area where Zarqawi was spotted.
Zarqawi boasted on his website of beheading innocent victims, including the murders of more than 1,000 British and American soldiers in Iraq over the past two years. Zarqawi also led terrorists that killed thousands of Iraqis through relentless suicide bombings and organized attacks. Many of the bombings were directed at large crowds of Shi'ites under a strategy U.S. and Iraqi officials said was designed to trigger a civil war.
Gen. Sir Timothy Granville-Chapman, Britain's vice chief of the defense staff, had told senior officers in Baghdad that "removing this terrorist will be a massive blow against al-Qaida."
Maj. Gen. William Caldwell told a news conference today the big breakthrough that led to Zarqawi's location came while U.S. forces were trailing Zarqawi's spiritual adviser, Sheikh Abdul-Rahman.
"Through painstaking intelligence efforts we were able to start tracking him, monitoring his movements. ... Last night, he went to meet [Zarqawi] again at 6:15 p.m. when the decision was made to go ahead and strike that target," he added.
Zarqawi came from humble beginnings – a former street thug from Jordan. But he remained elusive despite several U.S. military offensives, a $25 million bounty on his head and the capture of what officials said were several of his aides.
Caldwell said an Egyptian militant trained in Afghanistan named Abu al-Masari, who established the first al-Qaida cell in Baghdad, may succeed Zarqawi as head of the group in Iraq.
"What everyone needs to understand is the strike last night did not occur in a 24-hour period," he said. "It truly was a very long, painstaking, deliberate exploitation of intelligence, information gathering, human sources, electronics, signal intelligence that was done over a period of time, many, many weeks."
An Israeli security official told WND final information on Zarqawi's whereabouts came from Jordanian intelligence, saying Egyptian intelligence had the same information.
There were six people in the house, including a woman and a child, but only Zarqawi and Abdul-Rahman have been identified.
Caldwell said important information was found at the location that led to 17 simultaneous raids later that night in Baghdad and its outskirts that uncovered a "treasure trove" of information.
But he cautioned against being overly optimistic because Zarqawi's followers still posed a threat.
"It's not the beginning or the end but it is a step forward," said Caldwell. "Ridding Iraq of Zarqawi will not instantaneously stop the violence." -
hhahaha you didnt watch the show munich? After they killed the Black september ppl... More of it like that came out what... hahha
this game is never ending de la.... unless they toast them all .. then it will be possible... if not.. haha nah.. -
I see alot of naysayers here. Fair enough - that he is dead might ultimately mean nothing since another might take his place/ his role has been overhyped/etc etc.
But I think that is missing the point. This is a guy who boasted of beheading civilians and of carrying out mass murder. The world is a better place because he is dead. I would, of course have preferred him to be captured alive. But I am certainly not going to weep for his death. -
Interestingly,it seems that someone had already predicted Zarqawi's demise the day before.........
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20060607.aspx
"Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom
June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. Zarqawi's recent audio messages have not only attacked the U.S. and the Shia-dominated government in Iraq, but also Iran. He's even claiming that the U.S., Iran, and Shia in general, are in cahoots to destroy Islam. He has also called for continued attacks against Shia.
Except for his verbal attacks on the U.S. and the Iraqi government, he is almost totally distanced himself from the central leadership. Other al Qaeda leaders have been trying to down play anti-Iranian and anti-Shia rhetoric, and have been strongly discouraging attacks on civilians.
Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr." " -
any idea what the bombs that killed him were? It said they were 500 pound weapons. Were they Mk-82s, 82Rs, GBU-12s or GBU-38s?
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Capturing Saddam Hussein was the only good thing to happen in Iraq.
By capturing him, humiliating and degrading him, Saddam has overnight become a nobody. If you set him loose in Baghdad now I think no Iraqi will give him the time of day. Notice how no insurgent groups are fighting in Saddam's name.
But if the opposite had happened: i.e. US killed Saddam. He may become a martyr and give insurgents a banner to unite under.
Same with folks like Zarqawi. I'm sure US had considered capturing him but maybe too difficult. By killing him you just inspire more people to try and replace him or outdo him.
The Israelis had been assasinating PLO or Hamas leaders for decades. But this hasn't had the intended result of curbing terrorism. If nothing else its immediate result is to cause the Palestinians to give tit for tat and more terror attacks result. -
I dun think it was seriously considered. After the somalia nonsense, they probably prefer to just JDAM the bugger from above.Originally posted by moca:Capturing Saddam Hussein was the only good thing to happen in Iraq.
By capturing him, humiliating and degrading him, Saddam has overnight become a nobody. If you set him loose in Baghdad now I think no Iraqi will give him the time of day. Notice how no insurgent groups are fighting in Saddam's name.
But if the opposite had happened: i.e. US killed Saddam. He may become a martyr and give insurgents a banner to unite under.
Same with folks like Zarqawi. I'm sure US had considered capturing him but maybe too difficult. By killing him you just inspire more people to try and replace him or outdo him.
The Israelis had been assasinating PLO or Hamas leaders for decades. But this hasn't had the intended result of curbing terrorism. If nothing else its immediate result is to cause the Palestinians to give tit for tat and more terror attacks result.