China Building her own Aircraft Carrier Fleet?
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Recently heard from CCTV military analyse program that China may have secret plans to build her own aircraft carrier. As China is buying the latest SU33 with foldable wings suitable used on aircraft carrier also a decomissioned aircraft carrier from europe. Dispite the fact that China yet to have a harbour capable to house a aircraft carrier. These action could be the inital stage for air craft carrier fleet development. Likely she will build her own technology air craft carrier housing the advance russian craft.
It could be a new shift in the world military strategic placement. A new determining factor in Asia will soon be china inevitable as expected. Building a close bilateral relationship with China is a long term move by the government. We could expect more closer ties militarily with China in the coming years. -
this would cause alot of changes in attitudes towards china if it happens
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That’s would be a bit weird, did people change attitude towards Indian Navy’s native A/C carrier building plan or even Thailand—a much smaller country than China could acquire such a vessel without any dispute?Originally posted by beavan:this would cause alot of changes in attitudes towards china if it happens
Why only China? Though she may well not do so -
Historically China has the capabilities to become a super power. Which the economical state had verify so now as compared to the other country.Originally posted by 38�Ž:That’s would be a bit weird, did people change attitude towards Indian Navy’s native A/C carrier building plan or even Thailand—a much smaller country than China could acquire such a vessel without any dispute?
Why only China? Though she may well not do so -
U.S. Pacific Commander Pitches Partnership to Chinese LeadersOriginally posted by banzie:Recently heard from CCTV military analyse program that China may have secret plans to build her own aircraft carrier. As China is buying the latest SU33 with foldable wings suitable used on aircraft carrier also a decomissioned aircraft carrier from europe. Dispite the fact that China yet to have a harbour capable to house a aircraft carrier. These action could be the inital stage for air craft carrier fleet development. Likely she will build her own technology air craft carrier housing the advance russian craft.
It could be a new shift in the world military strategic placement. A new determining factor in Asia will soon be china inevitable as expected. Building a close bilateral relationship with China is a long term move by the government. We could expect more closer ties militarily with China in the coming years.
11 May 2006 (Bloomberg) -- The top U.S. commander in the Pacific urged Chinese leaders in Beijing to improve communications and beef up exchange programs of officers as a way to strengthen ties.
Admiral William Fallon, head of Pacific Command, made the pitch in back-to-back meetings in the Chinese capital yesterday with General Ge Zhengfeng, deputy chief of staff, and Cao Gangchuan, the defense minister, both of whom welcomed the recommendations.
``Our two countries should get along well,'' Cao told Fallon. ``Our younger officers, they should know more about each other.''
The meetings came near the start of a weeklong tour of China by Fallon, his second such trip since taking over command of U.S. military operations in the Pacific region last year, an area that covers about half of the globe.
Fallon's trip, which also has diplomatic overtones, includes cultural stops at the Great Wall and the terra cotta warriors of Xian.
It was the first high-level U.S. contact between the two countries since President Hu Jintao met with President George W. Bush in Washington last month. Bush and Hu also discussed the prospect of broadening military exchanges.
Ge said it was important for Chinese and U.S. officials to deepen their relationship. The admiral invited Cao to send officers to observe a major U.S. naval and air force joint exercise in the Pacific in June, as a way of demonstrating the U.S. commitment to ``transparency'' in its military operations, he said.
In an interview aboard his plane en route to China on May 8, Fallon said he was disappointed the U.S. wasn't invited to observe a joint Chinese-Russian exercise last year.
Fallon also urged China to take part in a meeting of Pacific regional commanders later this year in Kuala Lumpur.
Fallon's discussions in China come amid heightened concern in Washington about the military buildup in the most populous country, which is also the fastest-growing major developing- nation economy.
A 2005 congressionally mandated annual report on Chinese military power documented an expanding arsenal of ballistic and cruise missiles, submarines and advanced aircraft. It determined that the Chinese People's Liberation Army ``is modernizing its forces, emphasizing preparations to fight and win short- duration, high-intensity conflicts along China's periphery.''
The U.S. assessment said if the trend continues, the capabilities of China ``could pose a credible threat to other modern militaries operating in the region.''
China puts its military budget at $35 billion this year, while U.S. officials have speculated the actual spending could be close to three times that amount.
Fallon noted that the U.S. and China could jointly ``solve some of those challenges that abound in the region,'' echoing a theme put forth by Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick last year that China ought to behave like a ``responsible stakeholder'' in the world system.
``There is much that we can potentially do together,'' Fallon said. -
Yeap... and the US has reassigned another two CBGs to the pacific, re-station troops to Guam and in South Korea.....
The reason why the US wanted military exchanges with China is that they do not know much about the Chinese's Military development. They were caught of guard with the Yuan sub and 051c DDG.
The US has recently stated that they see China as a potential to challenge the US dominence and Leadership. The US administration has said that they are angry and that China should except US leadership. WTF, is you see the area where PACOM covers, it includes South and North China Sea... and of course, who cannot see the China Containment Efforts of the US with all their neighbours.
Imagine if China were to place military installations and base in Cuba, what would be that reaction of the US.... INVADE CUBA... "WORLD THREAT .... NUKE EMM -
china tried to purchase aircraft carriers from the superpowers but they refused.
a country as big as china should have a big fleet. -
C todayÂ’s Straitstimes pg19, uÂ’ll find the answer, how Chinese deal with US CVGsOriginally posted by MobyDog:Yeap... and the US has reassigned another two CBGs to the pacific, re-station troops to Guam and in South Korea.....
The reason why the US wanted military exchanges with China is that they do not know much about the Chinese's Military development. They were caught of guard with the Yuan sub and 051c DDG.
The US has recently stated that they see China as a potential to challenge the US dominence and Leadership. The US administration has said that they are angry and that China should except US leadership. WTF, is you see the area where PACOM covers, it includes South and North China Sea... and of course, who cannot see the China Containment Efforts of the US with all their neighbours.
Imagine if China were to place military installations and base in Cuba, what would be that reaction of the US.... INVADE CUBA... "WORLD THREAT .... NUKE EMM
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China still lacks experience operating Air Craft Carrier. And I'm not sure if the Russians are very good teachers in that. Heh.
I must admit, I never knew the new Kilos were capable of launching Shkvall torpedoes. As an anti-carrier weapon, it gives the carrier almost no chance. Of course, neither does the launching sub would also be very given away.. hmm -
China has every right to her own CV battel group and when time comes, china will have one.
But I don't believe China actually has a plan to build one now, due to budgetary and technological constraints. The money can be spent more efficiently on developing CV killer weapons like supersonic ASCM and attack subs. Right now for china, it's for important to kill an acraft carrier than to own one. -
Killing a CVN ???? If you get pass all the propaganda.. killing one isn't that difficult.. One hit with a Moskit, and successfully ignite the JP5 and munitions would have one burning for days. It's a mission kill. The recent Russian AC fly pass on a CV, whose response was an hour later.. is a surprise.
All the talk about the realistically untested Aegis ship defense System is just all that... talk. Then there is the success SM2 rate of hitting an incoming skimmer under controlled situation is a joke... when AC BVR engagement has only about 3% hit percentage.. and of course.. the patriot pac2 reputation.
I'm not kidding... CV is loaded with fuel in every AC lying around, and a munition hit will produce a fantastic firework performance. -
Ironical enough, Adm. William J. Fallon, US Commander of the mighty US forces in Pacific as well as a veteran Carrier pilot, inspected PLAN newly deployed JH-7A( FB-7 as export version) fighter-bomber designed to carry Anti-ship missiles to counter CVGsU.S. Commander Views China's FB7 Fighter Jet
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By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 15, 2006; 9:33 AM
SHENYANG, China, May 15 -- Adm. William J. Fallon, commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, flashed what aides described as a broad grin as he sat in the cockpit of a twin-engine FB7 fighter-bomber, China's most advanced domestically produced warplane.
"They had to drag me out of there,'' recalled Fallon, a veteran carrier pilot, as he described the first such close-up look by a U.S. official of the modern two-seater that is scheduled to become a key part of China's air defenses.
Fallon's visit to China's 28th Air Division, based near Hangzhou, and his pilot's-view inspection of the newly deployed FB7 were high points in a week-long tour of Chinese military installations and meetings with senior officers, including Defense Minister Cao Guangchuan. In a windup briefing here Monday, Fallon said the visits marked a significant step forward in his drive to increase contacts between the U.S. and Chinese militaries as a way to dissolve suspicions and reduce chances that the two Pacific powers will go to war. -
Why not the J-10 or the JF-17... a fourth + gen fighter ? J7 is simply just a mig21 upgrade.
Anyway, the Americans have invited the Chinese to observe the Guam Execise right infront of Chinas Doorstep, and hope China would invited them to observe in the Sino-Russia war games... (Penis) contest no doubt..
Why would the chinese agree to this.. and allow they ameriacn to access their Capabilities.... The Chinese seems to know more about them than the other way round. The Guam execise can be monitored by naval and satelite ... not that they are part of it.
It may be a surprise to many that the US naval ships are very worn and have out of date propulsions and navigation systems which are 2-3 decades old and is manpower intensive ... only advancement are their weapon systems... (which is the important aspect, but non modular).. a British officer once quoted. -
Look carefully, J7 is NOT JH-7A, if anything not sure, u can always ask GOOGLE to help u find some answer.
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My badOriginally posted by coolant:Look carefully, J7 is NOT JH-7A, if anything not sure, u can always ask GOOGLE to help u find some answer. , but seems this AC is not widely discussed.