Sidewinders for our submarines?
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Yeah, the programme was around since then. It was in response to the Russian R-73/AA-11 Archer missile that was being fielded.Originally posted by HENG@:AIM9X
hasn't this been around since the early to mid 90s?
It was available when I played Jane's ATF.
The AIM-9X just came into production and deployment in recent years. The AIM-9X is a crucial development as US lagged behind in helmet mounted off boresight missile technology.
Anyone knows if the AIM-9X is capable of 2 hit probability? Meaning, if it misses the first round, it goes around for a 2nd try? -
AFAIK know, harpoons or ASM are fired in pairs at the very least with the ability to run missile avoidence courses like sea skimming b4 flying up to confuse the radar and smashing it into the superstructure (which aren't at well armoured as in the past)Originally posted by Shotgun:I do not think we have such a capability. Neither do we really need it I guess. In fact, I highly doubt this is an effective way to sink a ship.
1. Without raising the radar antennae to sweep and confirm the target's location, the risk of collateral damage is very high, as the harpoon can accidentally target the wrong ship.
2. Most warships have CIWS as well as SAMs to shoot missiles down, but not all have towed decoys against torpedoes.
3. Launching harpoons from torpedoes requires subs to operate at a relatively shallow depth and a speed no greater than 4knots.
4. To sink ships, u dun punch holes that let air in. U punch holes that let water in. =D
But Blue on blue incidents are a major worry but i think they can be guided via our e2cs??? -
missiles enter from the top and come out from the bottom.. but what about a torpedo? can it fly up into the sky?Originally posted by Shotgun:4. To sink ships, u dun punch holes that let air in. U punch holes that let water in. =D
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That is provided there are E-2Cs around to provide targetting data? Besides, the target information needs to be entered by the launching submarines (unless there is now a data-link available for the harpoon to recieve course updates mid-flight). Otherwise, the contact bearing is all that there is. Or, the submarine has to do a risky radar sweep, which is almost certain to give away its exact location.Originally posted by Geforce3:AFAIK know, harpoons or ASM are fired in pairs at the very least with the ability to run missile avoidence courses like sea skimming b4 flying up to confuse the radar and smashing it into the superstructure (which aren't at well armoured as in the past)
But Blue on blue incidents are a major worry but i think they can be guided via our e2cs???
As for the sea skimming, well, I think that also requires precise target information. Meaning exact distance of target. Then can ALSO insert a series of waypoints and a final point to begin the popup manuever. If the harpoon is just shooting down a contact bearing only, pk would be much lower.
Hence the solution to this is, don't use the harpoon. Use torpedoes. They maybe slower, but if u run the torps a lil slower, say 30kts, they target's sonar won't detect the torpedo until its too late. Then kick it into full power and go active. To make sure the target dies, have the torps come in from 3 different directions. Unlike the harpoon, u can still communicate with the torpedo until u cut the wires.
Harpoons may not be able to rip thru a target if its a frigate and above. Its excellent for smaller boats/frigates, where they lack sophisticated anti-air systems and are small enuff to be killed by 1 harpoon. Anything bigger, torps are the way to go. -
in the game, the bloody thing doesn't miss. ever.Originally posted by Shotgun:Yeah, the programme was around since then. It was in response to the Russian R-73/AA-11 Archer missile that was being fielded.
The AIM-9X just came into production and deployment in recent years. The AIM-9X is a crucial development as US lagged behind in helmet mounted off boresight missile technology.
Anyone knows if the AIM-9X is capable of 2 hit probability? Meaning, if it misses the first round, it goes around for a 2nd try?
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Well, by right, it shudden miss if launched with R2min and R2max. But, sometimes quick snapshots won't be so ideal, hence the 2nd attack opportunity allows the missile to circle round and try for a 2nd hit.
If I am not wrong, the Python5 is currently capable of that. -
They just don't make games like ATF gold anymore...