Interrogation
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What are the interrogation methods allowed in the SAF when dealing with POWs during war time?
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do you mean by left ? ... or by right ? .....Originally posted by tankee1981:What are the interrogation methods allowed in the SAF when dealing with POWs during war time? -
I believe that this method is very effectiveOriginally posted by Fatum:do you mean by left ? ... or by right ? .....
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i think we still must follow geneva convention.. unless i got stuck in a situation like the movie Rules Of Engagement then i would stick my rifle barrel in a captured enemy's mouth
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Torture is a definite no go. Tiring the POW physically and mentally would be a gray area...
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Interrogation is not for you to conduct. We have trained personnel to do such things. Leave the dirt for the professional "cleaners".
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Probably those methods that are in compliance with the Geneva Convention. Remember, we are not the US, and are therefore not immune from being charged for 'war crimes'.Originally posted by tankee1981:What are the interrogation methods allowed in the SAF when dealing with POWs during war time? 
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I think almost every countyr still practise this although the Geneva Convention is still on.
I came across an article another day from some military magazines that covers the this topic.
The article stated that in order for effective interrogation to take place, there must be three elements exist-
1. Awareness of Interrogation
Receipent must be aware why he or she is being interrogation
2. Awareness of submission
Recepient must submit to the interrogation
3. Awareness of retention
Recepient must remember that he or she had been interrogated.
Although the points looks simple, but i think it is true to a certain extend.
Any views? -
Israeli methods of torture unveiled
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/980519/1998051935.html
Unfortunately there are no pictures. -
Just don't expect geneva convention treatment from our potential enemies though ..... looking at their track records, you'd be so lucky if you get to die with all parts your anatomy intact if you get captured ...... -
Show them steven lim videos till they crack.
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Now thats pure TORTURE! Surely thats way over the limits set by the Convention even by Israeli standards!
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the ironic thing is that it's people within Israel itself that's making noises about that .....Originally posted by tankee1981:Now thats pure TORTURE! Surely thats way over the limits set by the Convention even by Israeli standards!
how about you go google about Arab torture techniques used on Israeli POWs ? ..... I don't see how making someone stand for hours (even if they were stripped naked my female MPs ... ) can generate more noise than digging out eyeballs, tearing off fingernails, and slicing off tongues ..... those were techniques used by conventional Arab armies ...... let's not go into those terrorists slicing off people's heads slowly with hunting knives on video eh ... cos that's not interrogation, that's just "sports" to them .... -
If I was caught and I know they will do such inhumane torture on me, I think I rather commit suicide. That is if I am able to.
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Don't ever imagine SAF won't torture sadistically, far far away from the Geneva Conventions rules. I believe its usually not the chiefs of staff level that make 'break Geneva Conventions' torture a policy. Its the field level people, who have seen too much brutality and lost comrades, that come up with their horrible torture.
When its war-time, all bets are off, with regards to civilised behaviour. You and I, and all the other very normal people we associate with daily, are just as likely to turn into brutal beasts. -
"Would you like ur tea with or without sugar?" - Interrogator
"Is this an interrogation?" - POW -
tis is warfare..... going into war.... there is no right or wrong..
end of the day, whoever is the loser die.... thus to win .... all methods can be use.... either u use it on others or prefer to be apply onto....
info during war is important... thus whatever rules does not apply..
tis is the truth.... -
Beheaded and hang our heads on the streets for display you mean?Originally posted by Fatum:Just don't expect geneva convention treatment from our potential enemies though ..... looking at their track records, you'd be so lucky if you get to die with all parts your anatomy intact if you get captured ......
Even though we surrendered as POW?
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Watever it is, its the rank & file who suffer.
Higher ups ask you to torture. If you refuse, you get charged for insubordination. If you obey, later news leaks out, higher up will cover backside & claim you did it of your own accord & you get in the sh*t too. Either way you kena. So how?
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my JC pe teacher who was a retired PROVOST officer said he was taught on how to interrogate POW and he learnt to use the different types of tortures on them in case of wartime.
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You mean like the chinese water torture?
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the one where they drip water on your forehead?Originally posted by ditzy:You mean like the chinese water torture?
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if it's harmless, you think they'd call it torture ? ...Originally posted by fedor86:the one where they drip water on your forehead?
sounds pretty harmless.
they'll tie you down like a pig so you can't move, then direct drips of water onto a particular patch of bare skin .... it won't hurt at all initially ... but it's a different story 24 hours later ... you'll be screaming with every drop ...
though I think the version ditzy had in mind involved bathtubs and men in red berets .... -
What cause the POW to break? Is it painful literally or is it the mental stress?Originally posted by Fatum:if it's harmless, you think they'd call it torture ? ...
they'll tie you down like a pig so you can't move, then direct drips of water onto a particular patch of bare skin .... it won't hurt at all initially ... but it's a different story 24 hours later ... you'll be screaming with every drop ...
though I think the version ditzy had in mind involved bathtubs and men in red berets ....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture
Chinese water torture is the popular name for a method of water torture in which water is slowly dripped onto a person's forehead, driving the victim insane. This form of torture was first described under a different name by Hippolytus de Marsiliis in Italy in the 16th century. Supposedly the torture in dripping water is the slow rate at which the water flows. The victim can almost predict when the next drop will fall and a sense of tension builds up. When the drop finally does fall, a sense of shock and relief follows, only to be replaced with more tension about the next drop. The release of tension (no matter how small it is) prevents the victim from withdrawing inside himself. As this does not require interaction on the part of the torturer it can be done continuously.
The American television program MythBusters had mixed success with the Chinese Water Torture myth. They proved that when the victim is restrained, Chinese Water Torture is in fact torture, but this is caused by the restraints. The required torture equipment (and involuntary restrictions on movement) is highly efficient even without adding the discomfort of the water drip. The water drip itself, without the equipment, is almost negligible. The show performed two experiments, one in which a victim was restrained and had water dripping on her head and another where the victim was not restrained but still had water dripping on his head. The restrained victim reported elevated levels of stress and anxiety, while the unrestrained victim reported a mild level of annoyance. MythBusters cast member Kari Byron was unable to handle being restrained while subjected to the Chinese Water Torture for more than a couple of hours before breaking down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture