Sg buy 300 Terrex AV81 IFV?
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How about solar?
Most of the time its just waiting to ambush or waiting to be ambushed. Make hay while the sun shines. -
It'll be one shiny vehicle blazing in the sun if we use solar.Originally posted by ditzy:How about solar? Most of the time its just waiting to ambush or waiting to be ambushed. Make hay while the sun shines.
A good example of how NOT to be tactical. -
maybe Terrex will be use by our Guards 21 Division
just like how LAV is being use by the US Marines ?
The infantry units can use the Bronco ATTC for improve mobility.
Seems like 21st is the only Division that lacks a suitable AFV. -
do u think so guards will use? I dun think so guards will use ...Originally posted by teddy123:maybe Terrex will be use by our Guards 21 Division
just like how LAV is being use by the US Marines ?
The infantry units can use the Bronco ATTC for improve mobility.
Seems like 21st is the only Division that lacks a suitable AFV.
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In fact i was thinking of e PDF , RASF n RSN will use it as base sercurity but seems unlikely
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I roughly know for what kind of operation it will be used for liao but I won't say, and this is not to counter any system other people have in the region.
Actually this has been anticipated for a while, just that for the longest time they never want to implement it until now and I also agree it's quite timely that we should now have this. -
Though the Terrex can fit many roles, there is only one role that the Terrex is PERFECT for: RDF - Rapid Deployment Force.
It is air transportable by C-130 and can be quickly rushed in to support airborne/heliborne troops after they have secured a landing area e.g. an airport.
For other roles the tracked APCs like M-113 and Bionix will be better. (Apparently, the Bionix is also air transportable by C-130?) -
It is possible that it may be deployed as part of any future peacekeeping force.I sense that the SAF is focusing more on the expeditionary aspect of it's ability.Originally posted by four-niner:I roughly know for what kind of operation it will be used for liao but I won't say, and this is not to counter any system other people have in the region.
Actually this has been anticipated for a while, just that for the longest time they never want to implement it until now and I also agree it's quite timely that we should now have this.
And it can also be used for any homeland rapid reaction response should there be a terrorist attack.
My hunch is that the UOC will get to play with them, and they will remain a Infantry asset.Re-organisation into BCT style grouping is a possibility.After all, with the implementation of the network centric warfare concept, we do need a medium infantry fire-support vehicle as a battlefield taxi and a networked assault vehicle that can have the ability to take out urban opposition walled up in lowlying buildings.
They won't probably get any main gun version, but the SAMSON configuration would be the best balance. -
Well u can also use it as a command vehicle for robotic vehicles
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Same sentiment.
But to think that they just send few ten million upgrading the V200 and now its gonna be scrap in a few years time...
On the other hand I appreciate the Terrex for its internal space. The infantries will have a much easier life mounting and dismounting from the IFV..Originally posted by bcoy:
[b]IF this report is true, then I guess the V200s used by the ASU should be replaced by Terrex in a few years time.
These vehicles can be assigned or attached to various Guards or Infantry brigades, providing support when the missions requires it.
Wheeled APCs provide better protection when compared to transport by 5 tonners for certain types of missions.
Organisation will be different from amoured units (ie. the vehicles may not be organic to the Guards/Infantry units, unlike armoured units).
I used to be from a Guards unit that operates with the V200s from ASU. I've always wondered about the use of the new Terrex.
In addition - the Terrex can be used as platforms for other systems like mobile SAMs. [/b] -
Well they spent god knows how much on four 40 year old subs, only to use them for a few years and now they're spending another xxx million on two 30 year old subs to replace 2 Sjoormens.Originally posted by Paladin:Same sentiment.
But to think that they just send few ten million upgrading the V200 and now its gonna be scrap in a few years time...
On the other hand I appreciate the Terrex for its internal space. The infantries will have a much easier life mounting and dismounting from the IFV..
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well buying brand new submarines with similar capabilities is gonna cost a hell lot more...
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The Vastergotland (A17) class SSKs we are buying are not 30 years old, more like 20 years.Originally posted by sgf:Well they spent god knows how much on four 40 year old subs, only to use them for a few years and now they're spending another xxx million on two 30 year old subs to replace 2 Sjoormens.
However, I agree with you that this purchase is questionable in the long run. We could have been better off buying 4 new built Gotland (A19) class SSKs to replace the old Challengers (A12) class on a one-for-one basis, then forget the whole matter of worrying about additional replacements for the 2 remaining Challengers and concentrate on future programs like a new class of stealth corvettes.
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I think e reason why we not buying advanced sub is cos they r never design 2 operate in these water,a sub cant evade in these water once it compomise it stealth by firing it torp,e water is 2 shallow, e only reason we use sub is not 2 hunt ships but for covert ops n for tat u dun need very advanced sub tat a total waste of $.
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The Sjoormen class subs were already top-notch in tropical water ops.And the Vastergotland-class's introduction, has caused some ripples in the regional military community who have followed the RSN's ability throughout the years..Originally posted by sgf:Well they spent god knows how much on four 40 year old subs, only to use them for a few years and now they're spending another xxx million on two 30 year old subs to replace 2 Sjoormens.
it's not merely a 20 year old submarine. -
Well apparently, according to an ex-submariner forumite, that its not easy to detect a submarine in our local waters firstly cos of local shipping traffic, lots of sunken hulls, and shallow waters are generally ASW nightmare scenarios.
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Yes u right but tat before it fire it torp
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Anyway i agree with laserlordz ,a 20 yr old sub fitted with new sensor n wpn is as deadly as a state-of-e art 1 if not better unless there is a new hull desige tat revolutionise subs
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Our Sjoormen sub exercised with the US Pacific fleet (last year ?) and succeded in penetrating the defences of a CVG(Carrier Battle Group) and fired a torpedo (simulated) at the Aircraft carrier.
This are old news, you can find them by doing a search on the old thread.
Our Sjoormen class sub are not junk lah
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it happened both, in the Baltic and in our tropical waters. It was the first time that a submarine had stood ready to fire on an USN Carrier.Originally posted by teddy123:Our Sjoormen sub exercised with the US Pacific fleet (last year ?) and succeded in penetrating the defences of a CVG(Carrier Battle Group) and fired a torpedo (simulated) at the Aircraft carrier.
This are old news, you can find them by doing a search on the old thread.
Our Sjoormen class sub are not junk lah
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Haha since when have we jump from ground into e sea
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originally posted by Lazerlord:
Who is UOC ?
My hunch is that the UOC will get to play with them... -
urban operations company.Originally posted by teddy123:Who is UOC ? -
Do you personally feel that all SIR should be augmented with this Network Centric Terrex or only the ones specialized in FIBUA ?
Anyway, It should be possible to built the network centric concept base on the Bronco ATTC
Bonco ATTC should have larger internal space,, better tactical mobility. ST should have no problem making Bronco as 'modular' as Terrex. Improve protection with addon amour etc
Wonder why they introduced a new wheeled vehicle instead of utilizing the Bronco.
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Well, there are ways to fire a torp without giving away the submarine's location.
And given the a large amount of sunken hulls in a area, active homing torpedoes might have trouble acquiring a submarine hiding around there.