RMN SEA SKUA MISSLE MISFIRES - FAILS LIVE FIRING TEST
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Source: Bernama
March 16, 2006 19:45 PM
Sea Skua Missile Misfires In First Test In Southeast Asia
LUMUT, March 16 (Bernama) -- A "Sea Skua" guided missile misfired Thursday, in the first test conducted in Southeast Asia, in the waters off Kuala Beruas near Pantai Remis in Perak, Chief of Navy Admiral Datuk Ilyas Din said.
Matra BAE Dynamics of the United Kingdom, which conducted the test for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN), identified a technical problem as the cause of the failure, he added.
The missile, fired at 11 am from a Super Lynx 300 attack helicopter at a wreckage of a ship eight nautical miles away, failed to hit its target and fell into the sea without exploding.
The company would carry out an investigation to determine the cause of the problem in two or three days, well before the second test that is scheduled a week from now, Ilyas told reporters on board the RMN vessel, KD Mahawangsa, here.
The 2.5-metre-long Sea Skua weighing 1.45 kg is an all-weather, day and night sea skimming anti-ship missile equipped with a semi-active radar homing head that can sink a ship from a distance of 18km.
Sea Skua missiles were used in the Gulf War of 1991 and 200 were fired from the Lynx helicopters of the British Royal Navy.
The missiles are used by the armed forces of Brazil, Germany, South Korea and Turkey.
Thursday's Sea Skua missile test was the first conducted in Southeast Asia because Malaysia is the only country in the region to purchase the missiles, the complete package of which cost 16 million pounds sterling (about RM103 million).
The agreement to purchase was made in 2001 and the supply of the missiles to the RMN began last year.
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Source: The Star
Sea Skua fails live fire test
By CHRISTINA KOH
[email protected]
LUMUT: The Royal Malaysian Navy has tentatively scheduled next Thursday to test fire the Sea Skua guided missile after the first missile failed to hit its target during the inaugural test yesterday.
The missile developed technical difficulties at 11am and sank into the Straits of Malacca after its booster rocket failed to ignite.
The missile, launched from the navy's Super Lynx 300 MK100 helicopter from a height of 90m, was supposed to strike a barge about eight nautical miles away.
The test site is 32 nautical miles west of Kuala Beruas, 50km from here.
RMN chief Laksamana Datuk Ilyas Din said the test was a contractual firing between Matra Bae Dynamics (MBDA) and the navy, which had signed a contract with the British company in 2001.
The contractual firing yesterday, he said, was for two missiles but the navy decided to hold back the firing of the second missile until it had analysed the problem.
“It would be useless (to fire the second missile) if we don't know what the exact problem was,” he told a press conference on board the KD Mahawangsa in the Straits of Malacca.
“I was told a report should be ready in two or three days.”
Three MBDA engineers had been present during the test, which involved nine navy vessels and five helicopters.
Laksamana Ilyas said divers and ships were quickly sent out to search for the sunken missile, which will not detonate without ignition.
Laksamana Ilyas added that the navy would only pay MBDA the full amount for the missiles and firing system once the navy received proof that the missiles worked.
According to the contract, MBDA is obligated to replace any missile for future tests in the event of technical failure. -
Source: New Straits Times
Faulty rocket booster foils missile test
LUMUT, Thurs.
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A British-made Sea Skua guided missile dropped like a stone into the Straits of Malacca today when its rocket booster failed to ignite.
Disappointed but undeterred, Royal Malaysian Navy chief Laksamana Datuk Ilyas Din told reporters that a second contractual firing test will be held by March 23.
"We will not accept the missiles unless they are proven to work," he said aboard the KD Mahawangsa after witnessing the contractual firing test.
Although Malaysia purchased the missiles and firing system from Britain through missile system maker Matra Bae Dynamics (MBDA) four years ago, it has yet to accept the missiles and pay the full price of £16 million (about RM104 million), he said.
On the failure of the test, Ilyas said it was due to a technical fault in the missile and not the firing system.
Neither were the skills of the pilot and tactical officer on the firing Super Lynx 300 MK100 helicopter in question, he added.
This was verified by MBDA engineers who conducted the tests and investigated the incident today, he added.
With nine ships and four helicopters involved in supporting the firing test today, Ilyas estimated todayÂ’s test to cost over RM250,000.
He said this should not be considered a waste as the exercise had provided training to the RMN, allowing it to test the missile firing system from the Super Lynx.
However, plans to fire a second missile at 12.45pm were aborted with Ilyas explaining that there was no point in launching it without knowing the source of the problem with the first missile. -
OOps! Hope our 'mini-curses' and swearing here (about the launch) did not play a part in this high-profile failure!
Now, what should we turn our attention next? The RMN Scorpene? or its SU-30MKM?
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Interesting piece of news. Before - it was the Royal Malaysian Navy the conducted the test launch. Now that the tests have failed, the reports read - Matra BAE Dynamics was actually conducting the tests.
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Hmmm, the M'sian leadership has changed but apparently the behaviour of its military brass is still enshrined in its Mahathir-era game-blaming attitude.Originally posted by bcoy:Interesting piece of news. Before - it was the Royal Malaysian Navy the conducted the test launch. Now that the tests have failed, the reports read - Matra BAE Dynamics was actually conducting the tests.
If my actions for something turns out to be good, credit goes to me. But if my actions for something turns out otherwise, it is not my fault but others made it that way. -
Now this is really funny.
I like the sentence "dropping like a stone into the sea"
That means what? The missle plummet down into the sea upon realease from the lynx? If its that, i can imagine the horror on the face of the pilot and the WSO. -
The 2.5-metre-long Sea Skua weighing 1.45 kg is an all-weather, day and night sea skimming anti-ship missile equipped with a semi-active radar homing head that can sink a ship from a distance of 18km.
This is taken from the first article from Bernama. I find it amazing that an anti-ship missile of 2.5m with the all-weather, day and night guidance system, fuel and warhead which can sink a ship from a distance of 18km only weighs 1.45kg?
There is a typo error on that article as the actual weight is 147kg as can be seen from its manufacturer(MBDA) website.
http://www.mbda.net/site/FO/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=113 -
Shsss. BAE selling them new technology.
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BAE sells anyone new technology ..... if they pay in cash (read: no palm oil) ...Originally posted by donchoo:Shsss. BAE selling them new technology.
I read somewhere they've got the starburst MANPADs .... designed specifically to killed pop up attack helicopters ..... a cheap counter to our apaches ? .... -
Heres a video on sea skua.
http://www.defence.co.kr/weaponbook/wimage/movie/seaskua.mov
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Originally posted by donchoo:
As I said before in another thread "...The Sea Skua is a good weapon but I just don't trust the operator..."
Now this is really funny.
I like the sentence "dropping like a stone into the sea"
That means what? The missle plummet down into the sea upon realease from the lynx? If its that,[b] i can imagine the horror on the face of the pilot and the WSO.[/b]
The RMN should at least ask the BAE to supply BAE pilots and operators to fly the Super Lynx and fire that missile! At least if things turns out bad, unfortunately like the present situation, they (RMN) could definitely pinpoint the blame solely on BAE! -
Well, I believe their starburst MANPADS were procured way before we procured the Apaches.Originally posted by Fatum:I read somewhere they've got the starburst MANPADs .... designed specifically to killed pop up attack helicopters ..... a cheap counter to our apaches ? ....
To be fair to the starburst, this system (& other MANPADS) are to make things 'difficult' for low-flying aircraft and not procured by the RMAF to specifically counter the Apaches. -
They have a very transparent and frank reporting from their media of even very sensitive defence issues.
Whereas we in Singapore blissfuily ignorant of all the co.ckups and failures that SAF might have experienced until they cannot be ignored like someone died etc... -
As they say no news is good news so dun comlain so much about the SAF
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But honestly, i wouldn't want to report such a missile test failure. Something similar happened to their exocet launch in the past. Missile missed. Is it a curse or smth?
Is the Sea Skua RMN purchased some kinda "export" version? Something watered down? -
its a misunderstanding...
in malaysia.. the missile is not suppose to go to the target ship...
the target ship is supposed to rush over and catch the missile before it hits the water "like a ROCK". -
our highly manoeuvrable MKM fighters are the most powerful fighters in the region and the pride of malaysia, the F15 is a good workhorse but a rather old one -
This is is getting offtopic dude.......want brat...until the flanker LANDED on your land then say.......
enough of lfame war already....... -
dun worry the skua failure is a small setback, we have plenty more to testfire, next year we will export even more palm oil, sell more rubber or sell more raw water to buy even more armaments from our russian suppliers who are more than willing to give us anything we want, how much money are you planning to spend next year?Originally posted by Black Aces:OOps! Hope our 'mini-curses' and swearing here (about the launch) did not play a part in this high-profile failure!
Now, what should we turn our attention next? The RMN Scorpene? or its SU-30MKM? -
i rather they not awste my tax moneyOriginally posted by ahbung_ahdid:dun worry the skua failure is a small setback, we have plenty more to testfire, next year we will export even more palm oil, sell more rubber or sell more raw water to buy even more armaments from our russian suppliers who are more than willing to give us anything we want, how much money are you planning to spend next year?
why not they use it to make malaysia a more tourist friendly country?.
who wanna attack malaysia anyway?.
SG and thaiand so near..
anything they will help la..
and britan will help defend---
british -00> americans---> australians---> malaysian...
so no need waste $$$ buy below par military things la..
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WOw! A Malaysian patriot! Welcome! WellI'll be looking forward to your counter-arguments here....Originally posted by ahbung_ahdid:dun worry the skua failure is a small setback, we have plenty more to testfire, next year we will export even more palm oil, sell more rubber or sell more raw water to buy even more armaments from our russian suppliers who are more than willing to give us anything we want, how much money are you planning to spend next year?
Btw, since you mentioned that you (Malaysia, Truly Asia) will export more palm oil (I believe you are referring to higher revenue due to oil prices?), why not your national oil company help to defray the cost of oil in your country and help your countrymen with their day-to-day costof living? All are Malaysians what!
P/s Why are you so interested in howmuch I'm planning to spend next year?
Come to think of it, I'm planning to visit your country next year, any exciting place to intro? -
he dont und english...Originally posted by Black Aces:WOw! A Malaysian patriot! Welcome! Btw, I'll be looking forward to your counter-arguments here....
how to make u understand..
money is tax payer's money!
that means all the malaysian's ppl money!
not yours only!
waste $$$ in def...
lousy...
and failed too.
lousy..
but sub from sweeden...lousy(cant even dive)
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You are always welcome to malaysia and thank you for choosing us as your holiday destination, your S$ is more than twice our ringgit so your spending power is great, pls spend as much as possible your contribution to our economy will indirectly be helping improve our armed forces for the betterment of security in this region.Originally posted by Black Aces:WOw! A Malaysian patriot! Welcome! WellI'll be looking forward to your counter-arguments here....
Btw, since you mentioned that you (Malaysia, Truly Asia) will export more palm oil (I believe you are referring to higher revenue due to oil prices?), why not your national oil company help to defray the cost of oil in your country and help your countrymen with their day-to-day costof living? All are Malaysians what!
P/s Why are you so interested in howmuch I'm planning to spend next year? Come to think of it, I'm planning to visit your country next year, any exciting place to intro?
As to your reference about oil prices, palm oil is used for food manufacturing and cosmetics so it's different, currently we are experimenting biodiesel which hold great promise for all the nations in this region except singapore(which doesn't have any land resources to grow palm.) so the answer is no, there is no relation between palm oil and oil prices I'm sure with a little research you would be able to tell the difference.
Pls excuse my english it is very poor but you are more than welcome to spar with me if you think it makes you feel better. -
C'mon bros lets not start a flame war shall we? After all our new friend here is polite so far right? Lets have some intellectual debate here. ahbung_ahdid can provide an alternative view point, i am sure we don't know everything about Malaysia yet right? Cheers
