REPORTED "INTRUSION" OF UNIDENTIFIED AIRCRAFT IN JOHOR
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all i can see is Israeli, Searcher, and a pic of a UAV. doesn't that say enough
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Source: MINDEF
Searcher Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
Dimensions
Length: 5.00 m
Wing Span: 7.60 m
Performance
Max Speed: 60 kts
Endurance: 8 hrs
Range: 100 km
The Searcher Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) is one of the system operated by the Tactical Air Support Command (TASC). It replaces the older UAV employed for providing real-time airborne reconnaissance and surveillance to SAF ground commanders to survey the battlefield without risking human lives. The older UAV was being used since the late 1980s.
The aircraft is fitted with a small piston engine. Measuring 5 meters in length, it has a wingspan of 7.6 meters. Similar to the older UAV, the Searcher UAV has a control range of up to 100 km, and being bigger, it can carry enough fuel to fly up to 8 hours. The aircraft is made of fiberglass with composite material to reduce radar and infra-red signatures which make them more difficult to detect.
The Searcher UAV utilises a Global Positioning System (GPS) for navigation, which enables it to fly accurately based on a pre-determined route. It also has many automated features, and multiple system redundancies for enhanced flight safety and reliability.
Like the older system, it is operated from a ground control station (GCS). Flight information and real time video images are sent from the UAV to the GCS through radio links. The video image is displayed on a television monitor in real time.
The Searcher UAV is used to detect details on the ground such as enemy troops and vehicles. The battlefield commander will be able to have more reaction time and take countermeasures against the enemy's operations with the real-time information provided. The Searcher UAV can provide battlefield surveillance even in high risk areas without risking the loss of personnel. It is a cost-effective means as it is only a fraction of the cost of a manned aircraft.
The UAV Training Simulator
The UAV Training Simulator is the latest trainer simulator system acquired by the RSAF. It is capable of simulating UAV take-off, flying and landing with realistic environmental settings. This allows for effective training of UAV operators in a controlled environment. It will complement actual UAV training in Singapore where the scope is very limited in view of the constraints of local training airspace. A major advantage offered by the training Simulator is that it enables the RSAF to overcome the problem of limited flying airspace in Singapore for UAV training. Additionally, training in the simulator reduces training costs. -
Hmmm i tought we r using searcher 2
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Hmmm max altitude is 5.2 kliks, or about 15000 ft. Anyone knows if that is very high and if it still is aurrally detectable at 15000ft?
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you cant hear it, i can vouch for that.. seen it operate with above my units before.Originally posted by lwflee:Hmmm max altitude is 5.2 kliks, or about 15000 ft. Anyone knows if that is very high and if it still is aurrally detectable at 15000ft? -
Source: Bernama via Alert5
March 18, 2006 18:58 PM
M'sia Planning To Procure UAV, Says Army Chief
ARMY CHIEF GEN DATUK SERI ABD AZIZ ZAINALÂ… The procurement of UAVs would complete the defence assets of the army. Filepix: Noriani Ahmad
JOHOR BAHARU, March 18 (Bernama) -- The army has plans to procure Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), said army chief Gen. Datuk Seri Abdul Aziz Zainal.
Abdul Aziz said the procurement would complete the defence assets of the army.
"We' ve yet to own this aircraft. We are still in the planning stages in procuring the aircraft as part of our assets," he told reporters after attending the Passing Out Parade of the General Role Graduate Officers, Series 21/2005, at the Army College, Ulu Tiram, near here.
Also present was the deputy army chief Lt. Gen. Datuk Muhammad Ismail Jamaluddin and army field commander, Lt Gen Datuk Masood Zainal Abidin.
Gen. Abdul Aziz said this when asked on the UAV, believed to be owned by the Singapore Armed Forces, that was sighted in Gelang Patah, Johor.
The UAV is an unmanned aircraft that is used for aerial reconnaissance and can stay airborne up to eight hours.
Meanwhile, Gen. Abdul Aziz said the investigations on the Allouette III that crashed at the Mahkota Camp in Kluang on Feb 20 would be ready by next week.
The helicopter from the 881 Squadron of the Army Air Team crashed onto the tarmac at the base during a training exercise but all the three crew on board survived.
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I'll translate the article as best as I can. Here goes:Originally posted by spartan6:Hmmm i cant read malay
'The unidentified aircraft which was reported hovering over the outskirts of the airspace of Gelang Patah as was reported in yesterday's news has been positively identified as an Israeli-made UAV, property of the Singapore Armed Forces, according to a defence analyst.
"It is a type of UAV made by the Israel Aircraft Industries. It's not something classified, and Singapore has been using it since 1998", said the analyst who declined to be named.
As Bernama understands, the operation of the UAV was carried out by 40th Squadron of the RSAF based in Murai Camp, not far from the border with Malaysia (PS to moderators: is this classified?
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The presence of the aircraft caused agitation among the residents of Gelang Patah as it create noise to the level that 'fishermen could not catch their fish'.
The MINDEF website mentions that it uses 'Searcher' UAVs which can operate up to a range of 100km from its base for up to eight hours non-stop.
The Republic is reported to own at least 40 aircraft of that type.
Commenting on the issue, the chairman of the Government Supporters' Club Datuk Shahrir Abdul Samad said that neighbouring countries are expected to to inform Malaysia about the operation of military aircraft especially when it is conducted near the border in order to avoid any agitation or panic in the residential areas.
According to him, such a move to announce the presence and peration of military aircraft does not only help resolve any misunderstandings which might arise but is also in line with good neighbourly practices.
"Even if the presence of the aircraft is to guard the borders or to deter illegal immigrants, they (the neighbouring country) should release statements and inform Malaysia (about the presence of the aircraft)."
"When the authorities of this country knows about it, they can explain the situation to the residents to clear up any misunderstandings or agitation among them", he said to Bernama here today.
Sharir said that what happened at Gelang Patah is the result of the Singapore's failure to inform Malaysia about the presence of the aircraft until it led to the state of agitation among the local residents.
- Bernama'
There.... that's the best I could do to translate it. Any other Malay forummites here, feel free to correct any mistakes I made.
And to the moderators: take note of the comments I put in bold.
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Humm...that picture can't prove anything. One could have drove over to Singapore by the second link, go to LCK cemetary, wait for an UAV or any RSAF planes to fly pass, snap a picture and go back to malaysia. All done within an hour. And claim that a Singapore aircraft had intruded their airspace. Who can prove the blue sky in the background as Singapore or Malaysian airspace?
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March 18, 2006 ----Yesterday the Prime Minister clarified that initial investigations by the police and the Defence Ministry found the aircraft was still within Singapore's airspace.
fr the story:''Consensus On M'sia-S'pore Issues To Be Ironed Out At Technical Meeting'',GENERAL -
Unidentified Aircraft Heard Over Johor Not In M'sian Airspace, Says PM
PENANG, March 17 (Bernama) -- A preliminary probe indicated that an unidentified aircraft reported to have been circling in the airspace over Gelang Patah in Johor two days ago was actually outside Malaysian airspace, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said Friday.
He said the findings of the initial investigation obtained from the police, Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) and the Defence Ministry showed that the aircraft was in the airspace of neighbouring Singapore.
"The aircraft was most probably Singapore's and it was not in Malaysian airspace," he told reporters after opening the Northern Region Marine Police Base in Batu Uban, here.
Abdullah, who is also Minister of Internal Security, said the aircraft was circling an area not far from the Johor coast, and its drone seemed to come from somewhere close owing to Johor's proximity to Singapore.
When asked what could have been the motive of the aircraft, he said that the plane was not in Malaysian airspace and it was therefore unnecessary to determine the motive.
Two days ago, the residents of Gelang Patah had complained of the persistent drone of an unidentified aircraft circling in the airspace over their villagers, and the government initiated a probe.
In KUCHING, Chief of Defence Forces Admiral Tan Sri Mohd Anwar Mohd Nor said the whole process of the investigation was expected to be completed in a week.
Speaking to reporters after opening a 1st Division community rehabilitation centre here, he said the investigation was launched with interviews of eye-witnesses and ascertaining their location at the time they spotted the plane.
Mohd Anwar said the probe would ascertain whether the mystery aircraft was actually in Malaysian airspace or that of Singapore in view of the proximity of the two countries.
He also said that the armed forces would open more community rehabilitation centres at army camps in the country to help handicapped or special children of soldiers to get an education.
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The presence of the aircraft caused agitation among the residents of Gelang Patah as it create noise to the level that 'fishermen could not catch their fish'
Is it really that bad? I have personally heard the droning before, i don't think its loud enough to scare away the fish in the sea!
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Told you they loved to find fault.....Think it's their full time hobby.....
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Don't look at me; I'm just translating.Originally posted by tankee1981:Is it really that bad? I have personally heard the droning before, i don't think its loud enough to scare away the fish in the sea!
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Fudgester,
I think that's not classified. But the labeling of the squadron..hmm.. let's just say..
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Well, considering how our UAVs can scare off their fishes, what's a little squadron mislabelling?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Fudgester,
I think that's not classified. But the labeling of the squadron..hmm.. let's just say..
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It's still Dr M's sickening shadowOriginally posted by wonderamazement:Told you they loved to find fault.....Think it's their full time hobby..... 
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The sqn, I dun even think it is that lorOriginally posted by fudgester:Well, considering how our UAVs can scare off their fishes, what's a little squadron mislabelling?
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Thanks load fudgesters
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Sorry mate, what I posted above is as high-res as I can get. Squint harderOriginally posted by tankee1981:Thanks kotay...btw can you blow up the map a bit beacuse its really very hard to see the fine print...thanks 
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ADOH!!... you people cant tell isit??Originally posted by tankee1981:Is it really that bad? I have personally heard the droning before, i don't think its loud enough to scare away the fish in the sea!
THEY WANT MONEY!!
cant you see them sticking the hands out when they claim that our UAV "scare away their fish", wat else is new?
bunch of money grubbers... always looking for an opportunity to stick their filthy hand out begging for money. -
I also do not think the droning can scare fishes away! Unless of course, this particular UAV was flying lower than we thought. As in really REALLY low.
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Datuk Shahrir Abdul Samad is boss of Back Benchers Club of Johor state legislature.
Trouble for Spore-Malaysia relations............always use Spore issues for his own political goals.........
you must watch this fellow...... I think he once laid down on the Railway track to stop train from entering s'pore......wayang only....... -
While it is possible they were lying, it is also possible that SAF UAV really was in their territory? And if so, maybe it was scaring them and/or their fishes?Originally posted by tripwire:ADOH!!... you people cant tell isit??
THEY WANT MONEY!!
cant you see them sticking the hands out when they claim that our UAV "scare away their fish", wat else is new?
bunch of money grubbers... always looking for an opportunity to stick their filthy hand out begging for money.
It is probably less damaging for the MY govt to release a statement to say that the UAV wasn't in their territory after all cos there won't be a public outcry that can go out of their control. Or call to public scrutiny their radar/air defence etc...
Does any of you guys remember a report from more than 10 years ago that villagers in Johore reported men in foreign army uniform arriving in boats? Well guess who those were? At the same time, there was a "leaked" report that some SAF personnel were sneaking over to Johore on assault boats for cheap seafood meals. Yeah... right... If you believe that I've got another one... -
yea... really low... in fact.. our UAV was flying "underwater"Originally posted by lwflee:I also do not think the droning can scare fishes away! Unless of course, this particular UAV was flying lower than we thought. As in really REALLY low. -
yikes! i heard the railway track is full of human S H I T!!!, because the train toilet's unique design to allow human waste to simply drop on the railway tracks!!Originally posted by idwar:Datuk Shahrir Abdul Samad is boss of Back Benchers Club of Johor state legislature.
Trouble for Spore-Malaysia relations............always use Spore issues for his own political goals.........
you must watch this fellow...... I think he once laid down on the Railway track to stop train from entering s'pore......wayang only.......
smelly smelly......