Traitor in SAF
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Do you think in the event of war, someone or somebody within SAF will throw away his honour and collaborate with the enemy? I believe there will be, among those people in uniform you see.
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No war also got people like that
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Although its very wrong, I can understand desertion but collaboration with the enemy is totally unacceptable! In order to prevent collaboration with the enemy, i will personally shoot my men should they desert in combat to prevent mass desertions from happening. Mass desertions will cripple the entire unit!
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desertion and misconduct in action are 2 different charges. But its possible to have these 2 charges together tho..
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As long as there is greed, this kind of thing will happen.
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No need collaboration...
there are Indonesian and Malaysian Officers in SAF!!
As in they are not singaporeans. haha.
And Indonesian & Malaysians are not the only nationalities.
And nowadays in Mono-intakes... every section would have 1-3 foreigner. -
Why would anyone want to collaborate with the enemy when they have a choice to avoid war altogether?
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To save their own lives.Originally posted by iveco:Why would anyone want to collaborate with the enemy when they have a choice to avoid war altogether? -
It is always better to stay clear of the battlefield at any time.Originally posted by Patrik:To save their own lives. -
Got!Originally posted by iveco:Why would anyone want to collaborate with the enemy when they have a choice to avoid war altogether?
Some SAF officers will defect to the other side .. for the purpose of spying! -
What happens if our PR soldier meets his relative in the battlefield?Originally posted by Ponders:No need collaboration...
there are Indonesian and Malaysian Officers in SAF!!
As in they are not singaporeans. haha.
And Indonesian & Malaysians are not the only nationalities.
And nowadays in Mono-intakes... every section would have 1-3 foreigner. -
say hello to each other, and then proceed to kill each other??
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ME!! ME!! CHOOSE ME!!Originally posted by Texcoco II:Do you think in the event of war, someone or somebody within SAF will throw away his honour and collaborate with the enemy? I believe there will be, among those people in uniform you see. 
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chances is... before you even get a chance to say hi.. .your buddy would have blown your relatives head right off his shoulder... or your relatives' buddy would have blown your head skyhigh.. before your relative can do anything.Originally posted by Icemoon:What happens if our PR soldier meets his relative in the battlefield? 
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what about more tricky issues where someone does something that goes against the SAF in order to expose the truth and uphold justice?
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Universal values and the Republic are supposed to be defended by the Army.When the re is a conflict, then the crap has hit the fan and the insitution is under close scrutiny.Originally posted by HENG@:what about more tricky issues where someone does something that goes against the SAF in order to expose the truth and uphold justice?
You have to make a moral choice to refuse unlawful orders, especially if they are acts against humanity.. and as a commander, the greater responsibility lies within you to ensure your men do so. -
a word of cuation. if i were to want to desert the first thing i would do is shoot the officers or pple who are known to want to kill deserters. do so to reduce risk of being shot while runningOriginally posted by tankee1981:Although its very wrong, I can understand desertion but collaboration with the enemy is totally unacceptable! In order to prevent collaboration with the enemy, i will personally shoot my men should they desert in combat to prevent mass desertions from happening. Mass desertions will cripple the entire unit! -
Yeah, in war, anything can happen.Originally posted by hisoka:a word of cuation. if i were to want to desert the first thing i would do is shoot the officers or pple who are known to want to kill deserters. do so to reduce risk of being shot while running -
i was more thinking of situations where people break the official secrets acts to prevent circumvention of justice.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Universal values and the Republic are supposed to be defended by the Army.When the re is a conflict, then the crap has hit the fan and the insitution is under close scrutiny.
You have to make a moral choice to refuse unlawful orders, especially if they are acts against humanity.. and as a commander, the greater responsibility lies within you to ensure your men do so. -
People can be very selfish during War. Even when there's no war, people are selfish and spy on others.
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Weigh the pros and cons. Will the state and public benefit more or less from the disclosure?Originally posted by HENG@:i was more thinking of situations where people break the official secrets acts to prevent circumvention of justice.
Generally it is permissible to breach the law of confidence to defend public interest. -
this one is not desertion liao .. it is a mutiny!Originally posted by hisoka:a word of cuation. if i were to want to desert the first thing i would do is shoot the officers or pple who are known to want to kill deserters. do so to reduce risk of being shot while running -
Possible...but they will be executed, period.Originally posted by Texcoco II:Do you think in the event of war, someone or somebody within SAF will throw away his honour and collaborate with the enemy? I believe there will be, among those people in uniform you see. -
definately more. how can justice be a bad thing for the state? it forces those in power to realise they have to answer to the state, and they don't have a free hand to do as they wish.Originally posted by Icemoon:Weigh the pros and cons. Will the state and public benefit more or less from the disclosure?
Generally it is permissible to breach the law of confidence to defend public interest. -
More likely indefinite detention like the ISA.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Possible...but they will be executed, period.