Super-10 Fighter
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China is developing an advanced version of the J-10, the Super-10.
According to Russian sources, the Super-10 will have a more powerful engine, thrust-vector control, stronger airframe and passive phased-array radar.
http://www.alert5.com/2006/01/china-working-on-super-10-advanced.html
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Got this from Airforce monthly Forum, the TVC China obtained for her new upgraded J10 fighter will be almost the same as the one used in Mig29OVT ( or Mig35)
Interesting news on the J-10C, aka Super J-10.
The original JaneÂ’s report:
Some excerpts from the Jan 11, 2006 JDW article on the matter.
"Super J-10 Fighter"
Will feature- Passive PAR, TVC, Strengthened Airframe, Russian help.
The J-10 was originally designed to use the Zhemchug, a mechanically scanned slotted array by Phazotron, but some critical components were made impossible to copy.
The other Bureau, Tikhomirov, recently resumed a working relationship with the PLAAF, after having submitted an early prototype of their Pero in the late 90s but with no followup by the Chinese. They are now submitting a derivative of the Pero (is this the Panda?). The Pero was originally designed for use on the Su-30KN.
Recall the recent large order for engines in late 2005. Most observers assumed it was for more of the AL-31FN, but this is not so. It was for a new engine, the AL-31FN-M1. The M1 features an enlarged fan with inlet diameter of 924 mm instead of 902 mm, which improved thrust from 122.6kN to 132.4 kN. Also features a swivel nozzle developed by Salyut in conjunction with Zavod imeni Klimova. Similar to the KliVT used on the RD-33OVT of the Mig-29OVT- it's improved over the IAF's Su-30MKI in that it deflects in BOTH pitch and yaw, rather than pitch only.
Expected to have a MTBF of 1000 hours, the requirement set by the PLAAF (which perhaps will also be the MTB of the WS-10A, if and when it enters service), and a lifetime of 2000 hours. Future upgrades include the M2 and M3, with the M3 having a new cooling system, combustor, and LP compressor that boost thrust to 142.2 kN, and give it a longer lifetime.
http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/jdw/jdw060109_2_n.shtml -
Is this the one ? notice the TVC engine installed.
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No, itÂ’s a twin seat J10B fighter/trainer without TVC.Originally posted by MobyDog:Is this the one ? notice the TVC engine installed. -
Not sure this is the nozzle for the full 3D TVC or not. But the 3D nozzle used for the new J10 should look similar to it.
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It's a TVC engine....Originally posted by coolant:No, itÂ’s a twin seat J10B fighter/trainer without TVC. -
[quote]Originally posted by MobyDog:
[b]Is this the one ? notice the TVC engine installed.
this has been photoshop. J-10B has a longer cockpit. Not surprised if the engine has been given the same treatment. -
Take a look at the cockpit, you can just spot a second helmet behind the front seater, but the thing is, where is the ejector seat?????Originally posted by alert5:[quote]Originally posted by MobyDog:
[b]Is this the one ? notice the TVC engine installed.
this has been photoshop. J-10B has a longer cockpit. Not surprised if the engine has been given the same treatment.
I sure as hell don't want to sit at the back if this was the real thing!!!! -
Not just that, there is not even enough space for an instrutment panel
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This is how the J-10B actually looks like. -
the resemblance to israeli's lavi fighter is really the
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See from the rear, it's without TVC NozzleOriginally posted by MobyDog:It's a TVC engine....
