Floating planes(Be-12)
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I think it's time as we ask the spooks at DSO to experiment placing floats on our the landing gear aging skyhawks and upgrade them to be the worlds first jet fighter floating planes.
I mean seriously what if we were invaded and all our runways kanna bombed? Since we are surrounded by water shouldn't we have something that can take off and land from bedok jetty or clifford pier also?
The Beriev Be-12 Чайка (Chaika - "Seagull" NATO reporting name Mail) was a Soviet twin-turboprop-powered amphibious development of the Be-6 'Madge' flying boat with primary roles of anti-submarine and maritime patrol aircraft.
Be-12P-200 firebuster variant
Two Ivchenko AI-20M turboprops. The Be-12 entered service with Soviet Navy in early 1960s in maritime patrol role, and is one of the last amphibian aircraft in military service. The Be-12 traces its origins back to the Be-6, but inherited little more than the concept of its gull wing and twin oval tailfins. Initially its role was ASW patrol, but when newer missiles enabled the USN submarines to stay further away from the coast, the Be-12 was converted to the Search & Rescue role (Be-12PS). Small numbers are still in service. The Be-12 was also sold to and operated by Vietnam, and for some years a number operated in Egyptian colors, but under Soviet control. M-12 is the designation provided by Soviet Naval Aviation, or AV-MF (Aviatcia Voenno-Morskogo Flota.) First flown in October 1960 at Taganrog airfield. -
Actually the first jet floatplane fighter was the experimental Sea Dart (or something like that), a version of the F-106 Delta Dart.
Dispersal and off-field location is better I guess...It is not a matter of simply putting floats and voila! Float Skyhawk! -
I was watching the discovery channel the other day and the chinook can float too.
They make until the dinghy just went right into the backside and took off right after. -
wad shw is it?Originally posted by ditzy:I was watching the discovery channel the other day and the chinook can float too. They make until the dinghy just went right into the backside and took off right after. -
i think it was extreme machines, that day episode was on combat choppers.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:wad shw is it? -
Unless is for search and rescue I think it's meaningless for chinooks or helicopters to land on water.
If talk abt wartime I mean so what happens if your chinooks can land on water your infantry still need to get on to boats to paddle towards your chinooks
planes however are different matter or maybe we can explore the idea of having a floating runway of say few hundred meters like 'green island'
,the whole runway could be in sections and can be assembled in matter of a few hours like those pontoon thingy but of course more stable then all the planes or helicopters no need to modify liao good? Of course the combat engineers folks here will kaopeh -
red - for dat i tink the chinooks r effective when transporting SOF or the elite forces...for tactical landing onshore perhaps?Originally posted by KumSioJui:Unless is for search and rescue I think it's meaningless for chinooks or helicopters to land on water.
If talk abt wartime I mean so what happens if your chinooks can land on water your infantry still need to get on to boats to paddle towards your chinooks
planes however are different matter or maybe we can explore the idea of having a floating runway of say few hundred meters like 'green island' ,the whole runway could be in sections and can be assembled in matter of a few hours like those pontoon thingy but of course more stable then all the planes or helicopters no need to modify liao good? Of course the combat engineers folks here will kaopeh
blue - tink jap already hv a floatin runway...correct me if i'm wrong. -
I dunno what the jappies ah have but their defence have got nothing to do with us.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:red - for dat i tink the chinooks r effective when transporting SOF or the elite forces...for tactical landing onshore perhaps?
blue - tink jap already hv a floatin runway...correct me if i'm wrong.
1 chinook cat transport 33 fully equipped soldiers to 50 men. Thats abt half a company strength. I dunno the make up of an SOF section, but I think it is small section, you want to use a chinook which is so huge like a noisy visible sitting duck on the water to carry only 5-6 elite men? 1 RPG grenade or 1 84MM round and bye bye. -
Buy Harrier lah no need for runways
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1 harrier costs 11 million english pounds, we already on the JSF program.Originally posted by maggot:Buy Harrier lah no need for runways -
well well, can build ties wif japan n share the tech.Originally posted by KumSioJui:I dunno what the jappies ah have but their defence have got nothing to do with us.
1 chinook cat transport 33 fully equipped soldiers to 50 men. Thats abt half a company strength. I dunno the make up of an SOF section, but I think it is small section, you want to use a chinook which is so huge like a noisy visible sitting duck on the water to carry only 5-6 elite men? 1 RPG grenade or 1 84MM round and bye bye.
i saw the chinook landin on water for SOF to get dem out. 2 sections. furthermore they need transport for their power boats...