'Gangsta' shooting techniques
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but i guess...he was having a tough time cleaning the house and den the neighbour's radio interrupted him...i guess he couldn't take it anymore...poor guyOriginally posted by insouciant:I love how the guy is firing a Uzi in one hand and carrying a feather duster in one hand. Was he interrupted doing spring cleaning? Or does he plan to clean up after the "dust-up".
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Well, we did fire from the hip during ATP.
I remember we had to aim from a high kneeling position before slowly standing up while maintaining the rifle in the same position. Otherwise, you simply can't hit sh*t if you don't use this technique. -
That hip-firing position is idiotic. If it is to simulate a charging stance, it'll do better if the firer places the rifle under the crook of his underarm.
Otherwise, it's just good example of how not to waste rounds, even at 15 metres. -
Ya...i could never hit squat ... and the firing stance they teach you is rooster as well...
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i hear they don't teach you to shoot from the hip anymore nowadays. any truth to it?
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yes, its true. No more from hip for ATP.
Its just darn retarded.
Instead of hip, we have standing shoulder from 20meters -
Not real though. Don't make the same mistake as some c ocks in the US.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2df7711c0f.htm -
20 meters standing shoulder?Originally posted by Shotgun:yes, its true. No more from hip for ATP.
Its just darn retarded.
Instead of hip, we have standing shoulder from 20meters
That ought to be a snap.
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But I really wonder how that guy can handle the RPG's Recoil shooting it one handed...
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errr .... bro ....Originally posted by SpecOps87:But I really wonder how that guy can handle the RPG's Recoil shooting it one handed...
the RPG is "recoiless" ........
there's some recoil of course .... from the back blast ..... but not what you're thinking ..... -
As u see.. these africans n somalians are fighting the real battle. U guys are pretty much in simulation..lol.. even in live fire exercise.. its nothing to the real thing. 100 Hundred of those somalians firing thier AK's randomly.. given the odds of a 1% hit rate.. every 100 bullet they squeeze.. 1's gonna hit u in the @ss...he he.. i also like the dude with the UZI n the feather duster.. i doubt he hits anything ..but its still cool running around with an UZI...
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just for fun....
no offence intended....chris rock said this during his skits....
niggers buy guns....not magazines....he empties one....throws the gun hard to the nigger on the other side.....and just takes another one from his pocket.... -
Haha,but it really is shokcing. I guess their aim is to get as many rounds down range as fast as possible and if it hits anything, good for me sorta mentality. As opposed to the precise and aimed shot.
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Their fighting style is to lay a curtain of lead around themselves as they rush in, then they will go hand-to-hand and streetfighting moves.Grappling, pushing, table throwing..etcOriginally posted by SpecOps87:Haha,but it really is shokcing. I guess their aim is to get as many rounds down range as fast as possible and if it hits anything, good for me sorta mentality. As opposed to the precise and aimed shot. -
i wonder how they take those photos one..
their big boss.
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Sounds like a typical day in an inner-city ghetto of any major US city.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Their fighting style is to lay a curtain of lead around themselves as they rush in, then they will go hand-to-hand and streetfighting moves.Grappling, pushing, table throwing..etc -
Well, those guys are not that far off at all. Most shooters who compete, shoot strong hand or support hand only, canted (10/11 o'clock for a rightie). It's a more natural feel when shooting strong hand only. Try it; make a fist and punch out. Have a look at how your fist comes to a rest and then imagine having a pistol in it. You'll see it's canted to one side.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:I highly doubt it. The sight picture would be completely screwed up, and you wouldn't have the benefit of a two-handed hold to steady the firearm. -
This is true, as far as a 'natural' single-handed hold of the gun is concerned. I even find myself unconciously canting the pistol slightly counterclockwise when shooting stronghand at Bulleye leagues.Originally posted by i-SHOT:Well, those guys are not that far off at all. Most shooters who compete, shoot strong hand or support hand only, canted (10/11 o'clock for a rightie). It's a more natural feel when shooting strong hand only. Try it; make a fist and punch out. Have a look at how your fist comes to a rest and then imagine having a pistol in it. You'll see it's canted to one side.
However, I doubt you'll find many competitive shooters holding the pistol with a full 90° cant in either direction!
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rambo...
u wont want to be the guy wif feather duster's neighbour during CNY cleaning period... -
True, true. In my years of shooting in both IDPA and IPSC, I don't think I have seen anyone cant that muchOriginally posted by Meia Gisborn:However, I doubt you'll find many competitive shooters holding the pistol with a full 90° cant in either direction! -
I have to agree with this. I remember that while I was shooting with a SigSauer P226, my Encik had to remind me to keep the weapon up straight. I kept canting my pistol slightly anticlockwise to the 10 o'clock position.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:This is true, as far as a 'natural' single-handed hold of the gun is concerned. I even find myself unconciously canting the pistol slightly counterclockwise when shooting stronghand at Bulleye leagues.
Not at the 9 o'clock position, though. It looks cool, but you can't hit sh*t with it. -
Originally posted by BadzMaro:As u see.. these africans n somalians are fighting the real battle. U guys are pretty much in simulation..lol.. even in live fire exercise.. its nothing to the real thing. 100 Hundred of those somalians firing thier AK's randomly.. given the odds of a 1% hit rate.. every 100 bullet they squeeze.. 1's gonna hit u in the @ss...he he.. i also like the dude with the UZI n the feather duster.. i doubt he hits anything ..but its still cool running around with an UZI...
Everyone posted here have fired live rds before and we know what is the right technique and what is stupid!!!!
So dun come here and talk c ock becos you are out of your depth becos you are obviously have not fired any firearms let alone military trained!!!
Fire 100 rds just to hit one target, before you know it , you are already run out ammo and prepare to die!!!! -
Fudgester, I think I understand where your Encik is coming from. He probably was taught the 'technique of the moment' from whomever he trained under. I spent some time training with some instructors who also advocated the sight at 12 o'clock technique until I started competing regularly. Just watching the Masters do their thing you'll learn a thing or two. Couple I spoke to told me that it was a more natural stance when they punch the pistol out. I sorta learn as I go, I guess. Whatever works best for you. If holding it at 12 is more natural for you, then you're good to go, bro.Originally posted by fudgester:I have to agree with this. I remember that while I was shooting with a SigSauer P226, my Encik had to remind me to keep the weapon up straight. I kept canting my pistol slightly anticlockwise to the 10 o'clock position.
Not at the 9 o'clock position, though. It looks cool, but you can't hit sh*t with it.
On a separate note.......Meia, are you an admin on the CZ Forum? I used to hang out there at one time when I was running a 75B SA in IDPA. Helluva of a shooter that pistol was. -
Indeed I am! I've been a moderator on CZForum.com since about 2001. Truth be told, there's very little for a moderator to do on that board, as the participants are extremely mature, respectful and, above all, willing to help each other. The board is essentially self-moderating.Originally posted by i-SHOT:Fudgester, I think I understand where your Encik is coming from. He probably was taught the 'technique of the moment' from whomever he trained under. I spent some time training with some instructors who also advocated the sight at 12 o'clock technique until I started competing regularly. Just watching the Masters do their thing you'll learn a thing or two. Couple I spoke to told me that it was a more natural stance when they punch the pistol out. I sorta learn as I go, I guess. Whatever works best for you. If holding it at 12 is more natural for you, then you're good to go, bro.
On a separate note.......Meia, are you an admin on the CZ Forum? I used to hang out there at one time when I was running a 75B SA in IDPA. Helluva of a shooter that pistol was.
Glad you like (liked?) the 75B SA! I got my start in handgunning with a 9mm 75B back in the late-90s. Since then, I've ventured into other brands of pistols, but always find myself coming back to the CZs. For the money, you won't find a line of pistols that is more reliable, accurate and ergonomically ideal than the CZs. In fact, I trust my life to one, as I carry a 40S&W CZ 100.
Edited to add: Just thought I'd throw in an image of the pistol that started my addiction all those years back:
It's a 9mm CZ 75B. It was the very first gun I acquired in this country, and it remains the most accurate, reliable and comfortable 9mm firearm I've ever handled and shot thus far. It's still my primary 9mm pistol, and it'll be a cold day in hell before I part with it. -
Interestingly, the gangsta-style shooting technique has been used by users of the mauser C96 pistol at the turn of / early 20th century, esp. soldiers of the Chinese warlords. Fired on automatic, the pistol has tremendous upward kick, causing the firer to miss the target further with each successive rounds. To get around this problem (sort of) the pistol is fired sideways, turning the upward jerk into a horizontal one, giving a nice spread of bullets. Useful if firing against massed enemy.