Execution shortened Ex Wallaby 05?
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Fears Singapore execution linked to shortened military exerciseThursday November 24,
Original reported in
ABC On LineA former RSL officialsays the forthcoming execution of an Australian drug trafficker in Singapore may have led to a military exercise being cut short in central Queensland.
Former Rockhampton RSL president Keith Joyce says he has been told the Singapore Armed Forces have cut
the exercise at Shoalwater Baythe by a week, and are now due to fly out by December 2, the day that Van Nguyen is due to hang.
Mr Joyce says there is concern about a possible backlash towards Singapore troops in central Queensland.
He says Singapore's refusal to stop the execution is damaging valuable military ties.
"I see the aircraft coming over my house every day, the trucks going past with the armoured vehicles on them," he said.
"We have obviously a very close link with Singapore and if the pleas of our Government, of our Prime Minister and of our Foreign Minister aren't having any effect on them, it makes me wonder why we are so closely involved with them at all." -
My colleagues just returned from a business trip in Australia. They find the atmosphere normal, no anti-SG sentiments, mere hyped-up media campaigns against our nanny state over the hanging debacle.
Evidently, the general australian is not adversely against this execution.
After all, the international community once condemned SG for allowing drug smugglers to transit with impunity in SG, so we're just doing our JOB! -
Actually, its only Kelly Ng and friends, his mom, Lex Lasry, a handful of Labor party members, and a bigger handful of Australians who are actually against it.
Generally speaking, if you're here to see it yourself, nobody really cares. -
The real job is not hanging drug traffickers, but keeping dirty money out of our shores. Who knows how much Lo Hsin Han and his cronies have laundered in Singapore all htese years?Originally posted by BillyBong:My colleagues just returned from a business trip in Australia. They find the atmosphere normal, no anti-SG sentiments, mere hyped-up media campaigns against our nanny state over the hanging debacle.
Evidently, the general australian is not adversely against this execution.
After all, the international community once condemned SG for allowing drug smugglers to transit with impunity in SG, so we're just doing our JOB! -
The harder part is proving it....Originally posted by iveco:The real job is not hanging drug traffickers, but keeping dirty money out of our shores. Who knows how much Lo Hsin Han and his cronies have laundered in Singapore all htese years?
And it will take more than just statements from amnesty international and undisclosed sources from JP Morgan to verify. -
it's a political game lah
the politicians cannot sit and do nothing, hav to make some noise, else next election they will lose and kena fired by the pple for not standing up for their own pple... -
The Australian Greens want military relations with Singapore suspended, unless the Nguyen's death sentence is commuted.
Greens leader Bob Brown says Singapore depends heavily on Australia as a station for more than a quarter of its overseas air force planes and up to 6,000 military personnel each year.
Ok.Shall we call Beijing for ex. in Hainan Island---shorter distant??
He claims cutting military ties is one of the best ways to compel them to cancel, or at least delay, the hanging. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Deng Xiao Peng offered Yun Nan and Kwangxi, two provinces in exchange for singapore's training sites in Taiwan. similar climate, no typhoon, much larger areas, less costs, but singapore rejected as we could not abandon taiwan which helped us in the founding of the SAF. Li Peng finally said, cannot agree but acceptable, that was the final hurdle for the official diplomatic relationship between singapore and PRC.
[b]The Australian Greens want military relations with Singapore suspended, unless the Nguyen's death sentence is commuted.
Ok.Shall we call Beijing for ex. in Hainan Island---shorter distant??[/b]
We may want to ask now for one province. -
Majority of Australia does not really care about the hoo-ha.
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election coming la.. so wayanging on both side so we will be too busy to complain about their other stupid policy lah
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actually a long time ago, when a certain someone was executed, Singapore troops on exercise in another country also pulled the same disappearing act. The exercise got cut short and they basically pulled out all the personnel except for a group of people.
I know cos I was one of those left behind..
I tell you, the feeling on the day of execution.. it was a very sian day for all of us still there.
And I can definitely identify with the media hyping up the whole event, cos when we read the local papers, it was like "Singaporeans deserve to die too!" -
the only country that i can think of is the Phillipines .... am i right ? ...Originally posted by kurios55:actually a long time ago, when a certain someone was executed, Singapore troops on exercise in another country also pulled the same disappearing act. The exercise got cut short and they basically pulled out all the personnel except for a group of people.
I know cos I was one of those left behind..
I tell you, the feeling on the day of execution.. it was a very sian day for all of us still there.
And I can definitely identify with the media hyping up the whole event, cos when we read the local papers, it was like "Singaporeans deserve to die too!" -
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CSJ's actions might jeopardise the WP and SPP vote this time round, thankfully no one has chosen to endorse his words from the opposition camp.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
those involved must be damn happy.
[b]Fears Singapore execution linked to shortened military exerciseThursday November 24,
Original reported in
ABC On Line
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go home already loh. -
Sigh, the opposition always gets trarred by the same brush. IT is because of his attitude that is one reason for the divided opposition we have. How do you expect him to lead a coalition and sweep to power?Originally posted by LazerLordz:CSJ's actions might jeopardise the WP and SPP vote this time round, thankfully no one has chosen to endorse his words from the opposition camp. -
I think CSJ should just get a rope, find a tall branch and hang himself.... no pun intended.Originally posted by LazerLordz:CSJ's actions might jeopardise the WP and SPP vote this time round, thankfully no one has chosen to endorse his words from the opposition camp. -
SPP's lead by Chaim See Tong, bro ... who's quite a respectable chap .... (and a bloody enemy of Chee ..... ) I don't see how this would impact him ... I hope to see more chaps like him infact ... serious, respectable opposition ....Originally posted by LazerLordz:CSJ's actions might jeopardise the WP and SPP vote this time round, thankfully no one has chosen to endorse his words from the opposition camp.
neways .... back to military stuff eh ...
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yes.But you know how some Singaporeans are short-sighted and they might lump WP and SPP with the SDP...Originally posted by Fatum:SPP's lead by Chaim See Tong, bro ... who's quite a respectable chap .... (and a bloody enemy of Chee ..... ) I don't see how this would impact him ... I hope to see more chaps like him infact ... serious, respectable opposition ....
neways .... back to military stuff eh ...
I have the fullest respect for Chiam, a well-known old boy too and a humble man.
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oh this must be quite long ago?? anyway saf currently cutting down on training in ROC what... i think sispec ocs both never go liao.. looks like we are going to pangseh them soon hahaOriginally posted by sgdiehard:Deng Xiao Peng offered Yun Nan and Kwangxi, two provinces in exchange for singapore's training sites in Taiwan. similar climate, no typhoon, much larger areas, less costs, but singapore rejected as we could not abandon taiwan which helped us in the founding of the SAF. Li Peng finally said, cannot agree but acceptable, that was the final hurdle for the official diplomatic relationship between singapore and PRC.
We may want to ask now for one province. -
Heard this from a MWO who was a perm staff in taiwan before ....Originally posted by relackjack:oh this must be quite long ago?? anyway saf currently cutting down on training in ROC what... i think sispec ocs both never go liao.. looks like we are going to pangseh them soon haha
we're gonna pang seh taiwan training not because of any political reasons, but because of the locals there ... every little provincial political hopeful will take a swing at us and our training there everytime elections come along .... along with locals who tries to squeeze the SAF at every turn ....
he says that if a local farmer discovered his generator was spoilt for example, he'll just walk up to the camp and demand to see the commandant ... saying that SAF troops damaged it ... even though the nearest SAF trooper might have been miles away .... and voila ! ... he gets a brand new one ...
same thing for failed ginger crops, fruits, etc .... if an SAF unit passes by a farm on the road ...... some farmer may just come along and say that unit damaged his land or something .... it got way way out of hand because there was once a camp commander who started this policy of "make nice" to the locals ... and so now we kenna taken advantage of at every turn .... -
Once there was some repair/renovation works to be done to one of the ROC camps and SAF was offered service by i think 2 different contractors.
1st one came and demanded that SAF must hire him or else.....
Camp commander ask him to relax blahblah.... then that contractor A left.
Contractor B came an hour + later to discuss with camp commander. THen all of sudden, contractor A burst into the commander's room and pull that 2nd contractor out and wallop him. Next he threaten the camp commander blahblah...
Then Tiger Force activated... draw M203 lah, SAW lah..
Its one of the arti camps...
JUst one of the few experiences that mi regular campmates share with us NSFs during TCSS sessions.. -
My Aussie colleagues now everyday ask me if I want to play Hangman with them.
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when we use their camps, they like to make us repair their camps one knn, so handover take over must really check everything. Aiya i think we go china their china farmer also same thing one hahha, in general, chinese damn gian lui one lar, small thing can earn money sure whack oneOriginally posted by Moonstriker:Once there was some repair/renovation works to be done to one of the ROC camps and SAF was offered service by i think 2 different contractors.
1st one came and demanded that SAF must hire him or else.....
Camp commander ask him to relax blahblah.... then that contractor A left.
Contractor B came an hour + later to discuss with camp commander. THen all of sudden, contractor A burst into the commander's room and pull that 2nd contractor out and wallop him. Next he threaten the camp commander blahblah...
Then Tiger Force activated... draw M203 lah, SAW lah..
Its one of the arti camps...
JUst one of the few experiences that mi regular campmates share with us NSFs during TCSS sessions.. -
It's still better to train in Australia or America.Originally posted by Geforce3:when we use their camps, they like to make us repair their camps one knn, so handover take over must really check everything. Aiya i think we go china their china farmer also same thing one hahha, in general, chinese damn gian lui one lar, small thing can earn money sure whack one