If MY to construct a half-bridge,how?
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everytime he bash singapore, big supporters, alot ot loud mouths. if he once says one good word about singapore, no support. As a politician in malaysia out to gain fame, what will you say about singapore.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:War is a bloody fight.
Both sides will suffer major casualties.
It should be considered as a very last option when there's no alternative available.
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He can bash thailand..why bash singapore?Originally posted by AF2005:everytime he bash singapore, big supporters, alot ot loud mouths. if he once says one good word about singapore, no support. As a politician in malaysia out to gain fame, what will you say about singapore.
Sometimes mahathir also likes to complain on how singapore treat malay-muslims.Malay muslims are living happily and they are earning money , and they have their own hdb asset worth over 100k.
There are so many abuses and bullying across the thai border and the region there is much more complicated..
why bash us?? thailand has palm oil
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ha ha , i thought you say you want to leave sgforums. anyway, we tiny island. their politicians feel shiok to bash us. But piss off when we escape their clutches, like water issue. somehow i get the feeling they build the CQ in JB first is to hold us ransom , to make us say yes. anyone care to comment. CQ build already, now they will blame us for the delay, another reason to bash us further. anyway, get use to their bashing.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:He can bash thailand..why bash singapore?
Sometimes mahathir also likes to complain on how singapore treat malay-muslims.Malay muslims are living happily and they are earning money , and they have their own hdb asset worth over 100k.
There are so many abuses and bullying across the thai border and the region there is much more complicated..
why bash us?? thailand has palm oil
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Nah beh....better don't go to war. Me enlisting next year. Let me have a peaceful two years ok...
In any case, Malaysia had always tried to treat us as a vassal state. Mahathir is also the least progressive and narrow minded fill with personal agenda PM Malaysia ever had. -
The port issue may become a non-issue if Thailand builds a canal through the Isthmus of Kra to bypass both Singapore and Malaysia. It will cut shipping times drastically without having to pass through the pirate-infested Straits of Malacca.
Here are some excerpts from an article readers might be interested in:
"In 1882 the constructor of the Suez canal, Ferdinand de Lesseps, visited the area, but wasn't allowed to investigate in detail by the Thai king. In 1897 Thailand and the British empire agreed not to build a canal there, to protect the regional dominance of the harbour of Singapore."
"In 2005, however, an internal report prepared for U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was leaked to The Washington Times, spelling out China's strategy of underwriting construction of the $20 billion canal across the Kra Isthmus complete with Chinese port facilities, as part of its "string of pearls" strategy of forward bases and energy security."
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reservist will be affectedOriginally posted by zquek:Nah beh....better don't go to war. Me enlisting next year. Let me have a peaceful two years ok...
In any case, Malaysia had always tried to treat us as a vassal state. Mahathir is also the least progressive and narrow minded fill with personal agenda PM Malaysia ever had. -
We r known to be the whipping boys of Malaysia... just because we small. Maybe our parliment shld have someone so talkative and strong in words like Potong Pasir MP Mr Chiam to be foreign minister and shout back at that M&M then they know our power.Originally posted by AF2005:ha ha , i thought you say you want to leave sgforums. anyway, we tiny island. their politicians feel shiok to bash us. But piss off when we escape their clutches, like water issue. somehow i get the feeling they build the CQ in JB first is to hold us ransom , to make us say yes. anyone care to comment. CQ build already, now they will blame us for the delay, another reason to bash us further. anyway, get use to their bashing. -
When a dog barked at you, do you go down on yr four legs and bark back?Originally posted by kelong70:We r known to be the whipping boys of Malaysia... just because we small. Maybe our parliment shld have someone so talkative and strong in words like Potong Pasir MP Mr Chiam to be foreign minister and shout back at that M&M then they know our power.
Is Mr. Chiam know to be talkative?
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When a dog barked at you, do you go down on yr four legs and bark back?Originally posted by kelong70:We r known to be the whipping boys of Malaysia... just because we small. Maybe our parliment shld have someone so talkative and strong in words like Potong Pasir MP Mr Chiam to be foreign minister and shout back at that M&M then they know our power.
Is Mr. Chiam know to be talkative? -
What bother abt that stupid fool!!!!
When he make joke abt we drinking new water , it show how stupid he is???
And he called himself a doctor when he dun even read abt the scientific papers of on microfiltration and reverse osmosis which even spacemen drink them!!!
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Like those bullies in school lor..Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:He can bash thailand..why bash singapore?
Sometimes mahathir also likes to complain on how singapore treat malay-muslims.Malay muslims are living happily and they are earning money , and they have their own hdb asset worth over 100k.
There are so many abuses and bullying across the thai border and the region there is much more complicated..
why bash us?? thailand has palm oil
and why not bash brunei? brunei has oil..sg no oil ...bash us for what use?
Only dare to bully the small boy.. when come to big boys like Thailand... legs also shake where got the balls to sound a word.
I am waiting for the day to come when his family is going buried him. Hopefully soon. Then we'll live in peace. -
And we'll get to dance on his grave.Originally posted by Paladin:Like those bullies in school lor..
Only dare to bully the small boy.. when come to big boys like Thailand... legs also shake where got the balls to sound a word.
I am waiting for the day to come when his family is going buried him. Hopefully soon. Then we'll live in peace.
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i wonder what will our foreign ministry say
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"he is the funniest clown singapore ever had... we will miss his nonsense, but i am sure we will find another waiting to fill his job"Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:i wonder what will our foreign ministry say
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You`re right Banana. If you`re bothered by Dr M`s remarks, then he would already have scored points with you. He was a loose cannon in international politics during his twilight years as PM. After some time, the world stopped according his statements the credence and importance we we once showed. In many ways, he belittled Malaysia`s position in international diplomacy. Not very much helped by Syed Hamid Albar, the foreign minister, I must add. Too bad. It certainly helped our standing ironically. Wonder if it ever occured to them...
At any rate, they can`t legally demolish the cause-way on thier side. And I seriously doubt they would. It seriously damages international standing.
It would be no different then Egypt blocking one end of the Suez canal and claiming that they have a right to do so. The example of the Suez is`nt far-fetched. It`s a matter of principle and agreement and that matters hell of a lot in diplomacy. At the end of the day, Malaysia would be deemed as an untrustworthy party and that`s crazy. Again, Singapore benefits somewhat.
It makes a mockery of the global community. So, the affect are wide-ranging on a whole slew of agreements; politics, economics, etc. For example, who wants to negotiate a free trade agreement with you when you can change your mind after sigining the dotted line.
I forgot to add. Most people in the know will probably laugh thier hats off when Malaysia goes on a sabre-rattling dance. Be it against Singapore, Indonesia, Australia, etc. You know why..funny shiit -
Anyway,Politics is known to be stupidity in suits.
Dr.M did remark once that aft he retire from his office,he will not be like a persistent old man who keeps meddling in state affairs or something along those lines.But hell...for some unknown reason,he likes to rattle his later "lets go to war" saber and make himself heard just for the sake of the attention.Call it Attention Defiency Syndrome.Ha -
let them build lah... anyway they dun even have a plan on how to raise the precious $$$ to fun their "crooked " bridge. No $$$ who build for you???
Our good neighbour always talk loud loud but action small small...now dun talk louder... few years down the road when our new desalination plants completed and marina reserviour is done... they cannot play around with the topic liao...so must catch the opporunity to talk cock sing song and "MAKAN" mah. Else how can their polticians can get their BONUS?? -
about water...
they are now having water supply problems too. -
I dun think Kras Canal will be build within the next decade or so. The current insurgent activity in south thailand has shaken the nerve of the Thai rulers. No Thai leader is willing to risk building the Kras Canal and face the possibility of losing the control of south Thailand.
Remember not too long ago, our dear Dr M even offered to help the Thai gov to "train" the south thailand local adminstration staff for better efficiency...sounds very very fishy -
The deal is to get private sector to finance the project and private companies to collect toll to maintain. Same as in their toll highways and penang bridge.Originally posted by archon1234:let them build lah... anyway they dun even have a plan on how to raise the precious $$$ to fun their "crooked " bridge. No $$$ who build for you???
Our good neighbour always talk loud loud but action small small...now dun talk louder... few years down the road when our new desalination plants completed and marina reserviour is done... they cannot play around with the topic liao...so must catch the opporunity to talk cock sing song and "MAKAN" mah. Else how can their polticians can get their BONUS??
any person using that new bridge will have to pay toll.
There will be lots of kickbacks in order to get the projects.
All gov projects are awarded to bumi companies. which subcon to smaller bumi companies. Singapore companies will be left out or have to pay kickbacks if let them control tenders. Thats their system.
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Reports about the Kra canal floats around the internet. Same with several other proposals to shorten distances around the world. It`s about matching ideas with reality. All in, these are difficult to implement(with many implications) and costly. Thus far, there has not been any move in that direction. Indeed, it is seriously becoming a non-viable option; even if Thailand was entertaining this notion in the first place. You don`t want to seperate a troublesome muslim south from the mainly Buddhist north. Also, which ship wants to pass through a region torn by rebellion and strife. On the report on China`s funding it, I would put it together with the reports on turning Singapore into a southern out-post as part of a grand US strategy to contain China. Not very helpful in terms of credibility. Lots of rhetoric from many people within and outside the government as these two giants learn to accomodate one another. Not much sense sometimes. Also, 20 billion is`nt cheap even by China`s standards and to have it in Chinese hands will not be acceptable to Thailand`s soveriegnty and a treaty US-ally at that.
Meanwhile, we are getting our money as usual and making profits as well from our ports. Whatever happened to PTP? Have`nt heard about it for a long time still. Same thing with most of the ventures they seem to get thier hands on. I think it`s generally about competition and it`s just something they are doing a poor job in.
So people keep on quoting these examples; especially with our neighbours in the north; in same vein as they keep saying that they want to cut water-supply, increase the costs, stop reclaimation,etc. Truth is. They can`t because they could`nt afford the repurcussions. And in the instances which they could hope do something, they have`nt been successful. The new Tekong wil look great. So really...we have lots to cheer about at thier periodic demonstrations of desperation. Most notably, from Dr M. -
why can't they just leave singapore alone and no need to always try to compete.
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Sometimes I think that Singapore government should be taking a harder appoarch towards their Northern counterparts.
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KL 'too soft in bilateralties'
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Malaysian Members of Parliament have urged the government to review foreign policy with neighbouring countries, particularly when negotiating issues of national interest.
Datuk Mohamed Aziz called for a review on a basis of neighbouring countries allegedly having taken advantage of Malaysia's soft attitude of late. ( I think his vocab is quite limited la... 
Soft meh...)
Citing Singapore as an example, he said the Republic had made statements on unresolved issues.
"I feel that the time has come for us to change strategies in negotiating unresolved issues like the bridge, water and land reclamation issues, (They are always changing their stance. They are the one who suggested to negotiate everything as a package. Now they want to separate everything. I wonder in future if they want negotiate 2 get 1 free ...)" he said yesterday in Parliament.
His call was back by Mr Salahudin Ayob, who said neighbouring countries no longer had any feeling of respect for the diplomatic relations between them and Malaysia.
"We cannot continue to say that we have good diplomatic ties with them when other countries do not respect this diplomatic ties," he said.
He referred to Thailand, which often accused Malaysia of harbouring Muslim separatist groups.
In reply, Deputy Foreign Minister Joseph Salang anak Gandum said measures taken by Malaysia in dealing with bilateral issues with neighbouring countries were in all accordance with the procedures.
Even though Malaysia did not adopt a firmer stance, it did not mean the country would simply heed the claims made by its neighbours.
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They always pick on us, tiny island with no resources. Sometimes i even think race problems may be exaggerated and influenced by external parties out to create inbalance. We have to be self sufficient and PAP now is also too snob in the eyes of our neighbours. We always talk about treaty and international law. But our neighbours may not like it. They like contract without fixed price and up to them to change and also this bridge, even two houses join at the wall also needs to get approval between owners just to made any modification. What they say we must follow. i guess in their heart, they have not really let go of us yet.
when any parties want to do any project which involves the other party, a formal written proposal must be issue and spelt out clearly and sign by johore and KL. Next if johore becomes independant, but contract with federal can be void. The water contract is with johore and singapore, but somehow transfer to KL. If one day PAS wins in johore, then how? They can denied all informal contracts by federal and BN.
I guess they have run out of projects, thats why in a rush to build the CQ. What happens the bridge can only be build 300m to the left of the CW due to problems., then they cannot shift the CQ on the right.
i think a new bridge will be great but must mutually benefit both parties and must be free, no toll for all vehicles and people.